Another example of Religion in Public Schools

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Queenmandy85 said:

In the free marketplace of theology, Islam has been pretty successful. As a conservative, I have to applaud that. Compared to the Christian religion, Muslims demonstrate a remarkable devotion.

 

Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam).

 

[GostHacked]

2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam).

 

You simply gonna bitch about it on an obscure forum, or do you have a plan to correct the issue you see at hand? I don't mind hearing what is wrong, but damn Dog, chalk up some suggestions on how to improve things.

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

You simply gonna bitch about it on an obscure forum, or do you have a plan to correct the issue you see at hand? I don't mind hearing what is wrong, but damn Dog, chalk up some suggestions on how to improve things.

 

You're free to defend Islam.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:

You're free to defend Islam.

We don't have to attack or defend it.  The binary and reductionist framework you use to cast blame on over a billion people is flawed, as it is when used against other groups.

Your short list of stock responses isn't selling this.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

We don't have to attack or defend it.  The binary and reductionist framework you use to cast blame on over a billion people is flawed, as it is when used against other groups.

Your short list of stock responses isn't selling this.

 

I really do not care what my opponents think is effective.

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

I really do not care what my opponents think is effective.

It's logically flawed.  Repeating it forever isn't just ineffective, it casts doubt upon your whole thesis.

[DogOnPorch]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's logically flawed.  Repeating it forever isn't just ineffective, it casts doubt upon your whole thesis.

 

Only to you...

And since you reject history while never having read the Quran, I have to say...well...no I don't.

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Only to you...

And since you reject history while never having read the Quran, I have to say...well...no I don't.

Only to me ?  I think there are others who feel this way.

Not having read the Quran I am deemed not expert enough to opine on the topic, and yet the Quran is the unifying contaminant that turns Muslims into non-humans, right ?  What a quandry.

[DogOnPorch]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Only to me ?  I think there are others who feel this way.

Not having read the Quran I am deemed not expert enough to opine on the topic, and yet the Quran is the unifying contaminant that turns Muslims into non-humans, right ?  What a quandry.

 

I'm sure there are plenty of folks like yourself.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1 ) Huh ?  I think you're mixing up complete freedom with state sponsored religion.  'freedom of religion' generally means following the Western traditions I outlined

 

I just took your French friend literally.

[Queenmandy85]

Dog, you keep referring to the Quran but it isn't that different from the Holy Bible in some aspects. Leviticus is the most popular example of pronouncements and rules that, if observed today, would land you in jail. For instance, I've always wondered what would happen if my neighbour mowed his lawn on the Sabbath and I stoned him to death. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Dog, you keep referring to the Quran but it isn't that different from the Holy Bible in some aspects. Leviticus is the most popular example of pronouncements and rules that, if observed today, would land you in jail. For instance, I've always wondered what would happen if my neighbour mowed his lawn on the Sabbath and I stoned him to death. 

The books aren't that different.  (I'm taking your word for it.  I've done little more than skim either)

It's the folk who read them that are different.

Edited March 24, 2017 by bcsapper

[dre]

On 3/22/2017 at 2:15 PM, DogOnPorch said:

 

Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam).

 

Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination.  This is just more moronic mindless pap.

[dre]

5 hours ago, bcsapper said:

The books aren't that different.  (I'm taking your word for it.  I've done little more than skim either)

It's the folk who read them that are different.

Not as different as you think. Christians and Muslims have a lot in common... its true that both are stupid and gullible enough to believe in all this idiotic folk lore. But beyond that most of them are just trying to make a living and survive.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, dre said:

Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination.  This is just more moronic mindless pap.

Yeah, the problem is the rest of them, of course.  The mindless pap is pretending that the ones who matter are the majority. 

[dre]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

 The mindless pap is pretending that the ones who matter are the majority. 

Exactly... like the wholesale description of "islam" being bent on world domination.

Tough to fix stupid I guess.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, dre said:

Not as different as you think. Christians and Muslims have a lot in common... its true that both are stupid and gullible enough to believe in all this idiotic folk lore. But beyond that most of them are just trying to make a living and survive.

I'm talking about the ones doing the killing. There's more of them are Muslims than Christians. It's more the Muslim areas that tend to have the death penalty for disagreeing with Allah or Mo.  .  Disagreeing with Jesus is usually not punishable by death. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, dre said:

Exactly... like the wholesale description of "islam" being bent on world domination.

Tough to fix stupid I guess.

It is. It's easier to be obtuse. 

[dre]

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

I'm talking about the ones doing the killing. There's more of them are Muslims than Christians.

Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it.

My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims.

[dre]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

It is. It's easier to be obtuse. 

I wouldnt know about that. 

[Guest]

Just now, dre said:

Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it.

My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims.

Not from me. If you've been living in a different dimension for the last twenty years I'm not going to try to change your mind. 

 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, dre said:

I wouldnt know about that. 

Yes you would. You pretend that religions are equivalent when it comes to intolerance, violence and sheer nastiness. That shows you're an expert. 

[DogOnPorch]

49 minutes ago, dre said:

Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination.  This is just more moronic mindless pap.

 

Islam's goal is to make ALL religion for Allah. That includes you filthy polytheists, atheists, Christians and Jews. Especially you filthy atheists.

And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.

https://quran.com/8/39

Edited March 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch

[DogOnPorch]

45 minutes ago, dre said:

Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it.

My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims.

 

Why are the Hindu Kush named as such?

[Rue]

On ‎2017‎-‎03‎-‎22 at 2:24 PM, blackbird said:

The inherent weakness in giving special privileges to the Catholic schools in some provinces is that some other religion will make the same demands where their numbers are sufficient.  We need to find a way to change that.  No religion should receive special privileges.  I would rather religion be banned from being taught in public school.  People who want religion taught, can send their kids to private religious schools.  We could have a voucher system for everyone.

I agree with you if we engage in logical reasoning only. What you say is logical. My only further comment is comparative theology would be a good course to teach tolerance by teaching it in a way that showed common themes in all religions.