DogOnPorch Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, Queenmandy85 said: In the free marketplace of theology, Islam has been pretty successful. As a conservative, I have to applaud that. Compared to the Christian religion, Muslims demonstrate a remarkable devotion. Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam). Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam). You simply gonna bitch about it on an obscure forum, or do you have a plan to correct the issue you see at hand? I don't mind hearing what is wrong, but damn Dog, chalk up some suggestions on how to improve things. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, GostHacked said: You simply gonna bitch about it on an obscure forum, or do you have a plan to correct the issue you see at hand? I don't mind hearing what is wrong, but damn Dog, chalk up some suggestions on how to improve things. You're free to defend Islam. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: You're free to defend Islam. We don't have to attack or defend it. The binary and reductionist framework you use to cast blame on over a billion people is flawed, as it is when used against other groups. Your short list of stock responses isn't selling this. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, Michael Hardner said: We don't have to attack or defend it. The binary and reductionist framework you use to cast blame on over a billion people is flawed, as it is when used against other groups. Your short list of stock responses isn't selling this. I really do not care what my opponents think is effective. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I really do not care what my opponents think is effective. It's logically flawed. Repeating it forever isn't just ineffective, it casts doubt upon your whole thesis. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: It's logically flawed. Repeating it forever isn't just ineffective, it casts doubt upon your whole thesis. Only to you... And since you reject history while never having read the Quran, I have to say...well...no I don't. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Only to you... And since you reject history while never having read the Quran, I have to say...well...no I don't. Only to me ? I think there are others who feel this way. Not having read the Quran I am deemed not expert enough to opine on the topic, and yet the Quran is the unifying contaminant that turns Muslims into non-humans, right ? What a quandry. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Only to me ? I think there are others who feel this way. Not having read the Quran I am deemed not expert enough to opine on the topic, and yet the Quran is the unifying contaminant that turns Muslims into non-humans, right ? What a quandry. I'm sure there are plenty of folks like yourself. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1 ) Huh ? I think you're mixing up complete freedom with state sponsored religion. 'freedom of religion' generally means following the Western traditions I outlined I just took your French friend literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Dog, you keep referring to the Quran but it isn't that different from the Holy Bible in some aspects. Leviticus is the most popular example of pronouncements and rules that, if observed today, would land you in jail. For instance, I've always wondered what would happen if my neighbour mowed his lawn on the Sabbath and I stoned him to death. Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Dog, you keep referring to the Quran but it isn't that different from the Holy Bible in some aspects. Leviticus is the most popular example of pronouncements and rules that, if observed today, would land you in jail. For instance, I've always wondered what would happen if my neighbour mowed his lawn on the Sabbath and I stoned him to death. The books aren't that different. (I'm taking your word for it. I've done little more than skim either) It's the folk who read them that are different. Edited March 24, 2017 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 2:15 PM, DogOnPorch said: Indeed. Islam's goal is world domination as demonstrated by how Islam divides the world: Dar-al-Harb (the House of War) and Dar-al-Islam (the House of Islam). Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination. This is just more moronic mindless pap. 1 Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 5 hours ago, bcsapper said: The books aren't that different. (I'm taking your word for it. I've done little more than skim either) It's the folk who read them that are different. Not as different as you think. Christians and Muslims have a lot in common... its true that both are stupid and gullible enough to believe in all this idiotic folk lore. But beyond that most of them are just trying to make a living and survive. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, dre said: Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination. This is just more moronic mindless pap. Yeah, the problem is the rest of them, of course. The mindless pap is pretending that the ones who matter are the majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: The mindless pap is pretending that the ones who matter are the majority. Exactly... like the wholesale description of "islam" being bent on world domination. Tough to fix stupid I guess. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, dre said: Not as different as you think. Christians and Muslims have a lot in common... its true that both are stupid and gullible enough to believe in all this idiotic folk lore. But beyond that most of them are just trying to make a living and survive. I'm talking about the ones doing the killing. There's more of them are Muslims than Christians. It's more the Muslim areas that tend to have the death penalty for disagreeing with Allah or Mo. . Disagreeing with Jesus is usually not punishable by death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, dre said: Exactly... like the wholesale description of "islam" being bent on world domination. Tough to fix stupid I guess. It is. It's easier to be obtuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, bcsapper said: I'm talking about the ones doing the killing. There's more of them are Muslims than Christians. Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it. My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It is. It's easier to be obtuse. I wouldnt know about that. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just now, dre said: Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it. My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims. Not from me. If you've been living in a different dimension for the last twenty years I'm not going to try to change your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, dre said: I wouldnt know about that. Yes you would. You pretend that religions are equivalent when it comes to intolerance, violence and sheer nastiness. That shows you're an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, dre said: Pure crap. Islam is not a homogeneous demographic and it doesn't have any sort of effective central leadership. The overwhelming majority of muslims could care less about world domination. This is just more moronic mindless pap. Islam's goal is to make ALL religion for Allah. That includes you filthy polytheists, atheists, Christians and Jews. Especially you filthy atheists. And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do. https://quran.com/8/39 Edited March 24, 2017 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, dre said: Can I get some evidence for that? A cite? Some statistics? Because I don't believe it. Take the war in Iraq for example where armies that were 80-90% Christian invaded a sovereign state and got hundreds of thousands of people killed on the order of a president that claims Jesus told him to do it. My guess is that if you include ALL deaths, that Christians belonging to national armies have killed a lot more people than muslims. Why are the Hindu Kush named as such? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 2017-03-22 at 2:24 PM, blackbird said: The inherent weakness in giving special privileges to the Catholic schools in some provinces is that some other religion will make the same demands where their numbers are sufficient. We need to find a way to change that. No religion should receive special privileges. I would rather religion be banned from being taught in public school. People who want religion taught, can send their kids to private religious schools. We could have a voucher system for everyone. I agree with you if we engage in logical reasoning only. What you say is logical. My only further comment is comparative theology would be a good course to teach tolerance by teaching it in a way that showed common themes in all religions. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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