Altai Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) USA lied in year 2014 and said that Turkiye is buying oil from Daesh. Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs wanted USA to provide documents as proofs. USA was kept silent for a while. Turkiye wanted USA to provide proof several times in various international meetings and then USA finally have sent some documents which is presented as "proof" which was an asphalt worksite photos near Syrian border. After all USA apologized for its lies by sending an official letter.http://www.aksam.com.tr/dunya/son-dakika-haberi-cia-turkiyeden-ozur-diledi/haber-577056 Edited December 16, 2016 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Good for them. It takes decency and strength of character to acknowledge one's mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) LoL I am sure US would try to invade Turkiye based on these lies if it was a weak country and they would apologize 10 years later after murdering millions. Edited December 16, 2016 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Altai said: I am sure US would try to invade Turkiye based on these lies... No way. Invade a NATO ally for buying oil ? They didn't even want to support a rebellion against Syria, so this is a non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I dont know why these issue was hidden for long time since 2014. Russia did the same thing when we shot their planes. They took photos of aid truck convoys from miles away and lied that its oil truck convoy and millions of people puked hatred to Turkiye for years based on these cheap lies. We cant know what was happening behind the doors. We only aware of the surfece of iceberg if they would like us to be aware just a bit. My "deep information pool" topic is to make people be aware a bit more than usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 The US and the West would have approached Turkey differently if it wasn't part of Nato, didn't have to use the Incirlik base and their interests protected...Plus the fact that Turkey does not have a commodity starting with small "o"! Something that has instigated many wars in the oil rich Middle East countries by the west in the name of 'humanity', 'democracy', 'peace keeping' But that aside if US wanted Turkey they wouldn't attack it. They probably create proxy wars between two strong muslim nations like Turkey and Egypt so that they become weak and then an easy target for attack. Remember Iran/Iraq war supported by the West? Remember the subsequent war with Saddam under the pre text of false claims that Iraq has nuclear weapons??? Evidences of the western manipulations in these countries are there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, kactus said: The US and the West would have approached Turkey differently if it wasn't part of Nato, Actually, the U.S. began supporting Turkey years before it joined NATO in 1952. See "Turkish Straits Crisis" and "Truman Doctrine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 US also tried to start a war between Turkiye and Russia by shooting a Russian plane through their arms in Turkish Army which is called FETO. Turkiye is taken in NATO to be a front castle in front of dangers against West, not because of West trys to protect Turkiye. We also dont need the protection of anyone. US nor Russia nor all the European countries at the same time cannot win a war against Turkiye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Turkey was an ally and had close relations with ISIL. It and the US trained the original mercenaries in Al Quaeda who would go on to fight in Lubya against Ghaddafi and in Syria against Assad before splitting with Al Quaeda when Iran began attacking the Iraqi village sof many of these mercenaries. They were not goingt o fight to get rid of Assad in Syria while their fellow villages were being killed because the US and Turkey their supposed allies got into bed with a Shiite puppet they put in Iraw ordering the slaughter of their fellow villagers. Turkey was deep in bed with the original ISIL as was Obama as part of their alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood which created Al Quaeda Turkey, the US, Sudan and Egypt entered into a Muslim Brotherhood alliance meant to take over Libya, Syria and eventually Jordan. Saudi Arabia also sided reluctantly with this aliance seeing it as a way to contain Shiite Islam and Iranian hegemony in Syria, Lebanon, Bahrain, Yemen. Saudi Arabia split from this alliance but has kept financing the ISIL wing in Syria indirectly. It supported and assissted the ouster of Morsi the Muslim Brotherhood puppet in Egypt and entered into an unofficial alliance with Egypt and Israel to protect Jordan from the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan trying to overthrow Abdullah. Obama sided with the Muslim Brotherhood against Arab monarchies. Since most of those monarchies still contyrol the majority of oil in the ME, why be so surprised the head of Exxon is now Secretary of State and whose very existence comes from exporting oil from these states. The oil consortium has signalled both Russia and China, hands off the oil monarchies. the US is back supporting them and Israel will be once again its ally and Jordan and Egypt are back as US allies. The Muslim Brotherhood alliance with Turkey and the US is dead as it gets. Iran will be put back on notice that it has choices-play along with the consortium and make billions or screw around with it and have OPEC undercut it. China is going to feel the heat. With the US back to its old role, the need for China being the policeman of the ME is no longer needed. That's the message coming out. Trump is going to left Syria remain a Russian puppet navy port, in return for Russia staying out of the ME. Russia already has full access wth China to al the reserves of oil in Iraq and Iran. They will be told suck on that and leave the rest for the West, India and Japan and we will have a return to previous constellations of aliances that existed prior to Obama which means ISIL will eventually be localized, destroyed and mutate into a new organization fermenting anti oil monarchies and not focus on Syria. Civil wars now on-going in Yemen, Bahrain, Iraq all without Syria to dettract from them, will expose Iranian hegemony and either Iran retreats or gets into a war with the West wh ich I doubt China would allow and China tells Iran what to do make no mistake. As for Turkey it hates the PKK and Kurds. Its primary hatred is the PKK. It has shown through Muslim Brotherhood Isil supporter Erdogan he was willing to get into bed with China, Iraq, Iran, Russia, The US, if he thought it would help him crush the PKK and Kurds. Erdogan is not trusted by the US, China, Saudi Arabia or Iran who all hate him. His constant flip flops make him an unstable lunatic in a region where you find out which side of the oil consortium you are on. The oil consortium was abandoned for 8 years. The Bush regime, the Reagan regime was all about the oil consortium led by Saudi Arabia. Obama came in, challenged that control in OPEC and tried to use the Muslim Brotherhood and Sunni terrorists to replace Saudi Arabian control of the Sunni world and it blew up in his face. Iran detested Obama more than Bush. They considered his nuclear deal a joke, a scam, a final hurrah to give Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, the finger, using Iran to do it. Obama the pathetic puppet brought in by the CIA and a specific power network to find a non oil consortium way to colonize Arabs failed. We are back to bribing puppet monarchs through oil consortiums who will go back to inflating oil prices. You think Justin is gonna have anything to say about it. Hah. As oil prices go up, the tar sands become economical again to regenerate Canada's economy which he desperately needs. Carbon tax? Green house concerns? Yah right. The oil pipeline with Keystone will be built and there will be more oil pipelines as heads of aboriginal councils get bribed to look the other way. You bribe a council Chief no differently than a puppet monarch. Everyone is for sale. Trudeau is just a hairdo photo op. The world is back to oil monopoly politics. Short term the US economy will turn around and the spin effect will help Canada, but huge deficits will threaten another world financial crisis with Italy the next nation to go down the toilet in the next year or so. In the larger scheme of things once Syria ends its civil war by leaving Assad in or putting another Russian puppet in, we go back to high oil prices and a markeyt war with China. The average Westerner can expect huge increases in oil, gas, electricity, water, food prices, and a real estate collapse even in Canada as interest rates go back up to 10 even 12 % within the next 5 years, We That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Rue... Turkey does not hate Iran nor Iran hates Turkey....go and knock yourself out...There has rarely been any war between these two non arab moslem countries. Even Altai can tell you that... Perhaps from Israel's standpoint (ally of Turkey before Erdogan came to power) it would make sense to deploy a divide and conquer strategy and create a rift between shia/ sunni etc. Afterall, you guys hate Erdogan. Whether it is because of his islamic roots, the flotilla saga or Turkey's sympathy for its arab neighbours. Let's face it Rue you despise Obama because you see him as a moslem as you have repeatedly said like a true zionist and because he is not too fond of your beloved Netanyahu, whom you put first before Canada. Common man own up to it instead of hiding behind the true motives and always put the blames squarely on other countries.... Edited December 20, 2016 by kactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHackerMP Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 The US has effectively "absorbed" the UK's pre-Cold War geopolitical strategy. Under the British Empire, they were worried about the Russians entering the Med, and threatening the "life line" to India, so they kept Constantinople "friendly". The US, when it became a global power, simply continued Britain's strategy of keeping Turkey friendly. I don't see why you're so insistent (in other threads as well as this one) that the US wants to invade Turkey, or is somehow hostile to Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) For the ones who wonder about Turkiye-Iran relations. We dont take Iran govt. seriously and we can destroy them in soo short time. Another point is about 45% of Iran's total population is Turkish origin people but they are treated as second class citizens and they are not allowed to be part of Iran govt. They can destroy Iran from inside with a single command from Turkiye. Edited December 28, 2016 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Be sure that we will really be quite dangerous for all countries in the World when we gain enough power. WAIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Altai said: Be sure that we will really be quite dangerous for all countries in the World when we gain enough power. WAIT Is there some kind of mailing list, for updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 29 minutes ago, Altai said: For the ones who wonder about Turkiye-Iran relations. We dont take Iran govt. seriously and we can destroy them in soo short time. Another point is about 45% of Iran's total population is Turkish origin people but they are treated as second class citizens and they are not allowed to be part of Iran govt. They can destroy Iran from inside with a single command from Turkiye. Hey brother, do us all a favour and take over Iran before they get nuclear weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Western countries are much more dangerous than Iran. We should take over Western countries first. Especially Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Altai said: Western countries are much more dangerous than Iran. We should take over Western countries first. Especially Britain. Do you really think you could beat Pakistan? They are nuclear, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Altai said: Another point is about 45% of Iran's total population is Turkish origin people but they are treated as second class citizens and they are not allowed to be part of Iran govt. They can destroy Iran from inside with a single command from Turkiye. Pan-Türkism wet dreams... Bozkurt.... Edited December 28, 2016 by kactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: Do you really think you could beat Pakistan? They are nuclear, you know. They can do f@ck all...Too much talks no substance... Edited December 28, 2016 by kactus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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