A black Santa Claus at the mall.

[OftenWrong]

23 minutes ago, Rue said:

I call you out for misrepresentation. If people go to the site you quote they will note you deliberately omitted the above picture was not the

 

 

 

 

I didn't deliberately "do" anything. I provided the full link for people to go read themselves, and an explanation. To me the images look more or less the same in skin colour. Certainly not as dark as the medieval images. Sorry that you wasted your time writing a huge tome that was useless. The man was caucasian, as shown by legitimate information.

Edited December 7, 2016 by OftenWrong

[dre]

Hahaahah.... You guys are talking about the skin color of Santa. 

[Guest]

Not me.  I was talking about the skin colour of Frosty the Snowman.

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, dre said:

Hahaahah.... You guys are talking about the skin color of Santa. 

Not me either. I was talking about the historic St. Nicholas.

[taxme]

9 hours ago, Omni said:

No, they did listen to the likes of Megyn Kelly and that helped Trump get to where he is. I didn't go to other countries to change things either, but I wasn't going there to live either. And people who come here must abide by our laws or suffer the consequences. Aside from that, I am happy that they start restaurants etc. so I can enjoy some of that distant culture without getting on another plane.

I agree. All new immigrants must assimilate into the Canadian culture, and not try to spread their traditions and cultures on the host country's people. If they want to hang on to their past then keep it at home. And I do agree with you that it is good to have restaurants serving foods of other countries. This I can accept. But having their own schools, parades, businesses with their own foreign only language signage on them, and religious churches all about is a no-no. To allow any of those no-no's is to allow them to become bold and they will eventually demand more. It is the nature of the immigrant beast to try and push as much as they possibly can to the limit. And the program and agenda must be abolished.  Works for me. 

[taxme]

4 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Not me.  I was talking about the skin colour of Frosty the Snowman.

It is for sure that Frosty and snow will never become non-white. And their is nothing the liberal/marxists politically correct fools can do about that. Ha-ha.

[Omni]

7 minutes ago, taxme said:

I agree. All new immigrants must assimilate into the Canadian culture, and not try to spread their traditions and cultures on the host country's people. If they want to hang on to their past then keep it at home. And I do agree with you that it is good to have restaurants serving foods of other countries. This I can accept. But having their own schools, parades, businesses with their own foreign only language signage on them, and religious churches all about is a no-no. To allow any of those no-no's is to allow them to become bold and they will eventually demand more. It is the nature of the immigrant beast to try and push as much as they possibly can to the limit. And the program and agenda must be abolished.  Works for me. 

We have had Catholic schools for ages, and parades that suggest Santa was a white guy, and those restaurants you support are businesses no? If we force people to assimilate we become racist and boring. Doesn't work for me.

[taxme]

6 hours ago, Rue said:

As Hern has shown Saint Kikolaos was a 4th century saint from the Medierranean cost o Anatolia which is situated in where Turkey is today.

His other name was Nikolaos Thaumturge and he was a magician.

East Orthodox Christians depicted him as darked skinned as H said not white.

He became white when the Dutch borrowed him and turned him white in their remake of him. To be specific middle and upper class Protestants in Northern Europe would have changed his colour.

The actual St. Nicholas would have spoken Greek and was either Greek or Syrian East Orthodox Christian in origin not Protestant.

Let's cut to the chase. This thread was started by someone Taxme who feels "white" culture is under attack.

I consider everything he stands for repugnant but Taxme is honest in his positions which is more than I can say for others on this forum who hide their true agenda. He has never hidden his white supremacist positions.

I don't have an issue with anyone saying they feel their culture is endangered if its a genuine fear which is part of Taxme's argument.

I do have a problem when he doesn't take the time to educate himself as to what he thinks is "white" culture.

"White" I s as bizarre a word for describing humans as "black" or "yellow" is as far as I am concerned.

To start with "white" people are usually pinkish greenish greyish or have yellow or brown tones and then they start going mocha, to darker browns to a purple and Asian people can be eggshell, baige, whatever.

This idiotic attempt to assign skin colour and attach culture to the skin colour is illogical.

Skin pigment does not define culture and never has. More to the point genetics and science has taught us race is a social construct created at a time when people were defined by their skin tone, hair texture, nose structure.

Those are secondary characteristics that do not dictate genetic type and never did. You can have a dark "black" man and a very white man who have more in common genetically than that black man and another black man or that white man and another white man.

Taxme clings to a depicture of what he thinks is culture and moral values and behaviour based on what he thinks people of the same skin colour share.

The problem with his theory is it breaks down because then it has to deal with the fact that Jews, are in fact  always considered white by everyone but white supremacists which is ironic. Then of course are the Muslims of Europe such as Serbia who are white. Then of course white supremacists never had too much time for Catholics who can be white of course.

The hilarious thing about white supremacists is just how many black people they turn white in their "culture" as Taxme has demonstrated. St. Nick is a funny one but for we Jews the funniest one is Jesus in the sense he would as we are well aware of he was a Jew from Nazareth been very dark, very dark brown, had a big hook nose, full fat lips and black curly hair.

This hang up about skin colour is a joke. Humanity as we know it has been cross bred by rape that comes with wars. The Mongolian hoards, Vikings, Romans, Greeks, white settlers, everyone has raped everyone mixing the genetic pools. We also know in biology and genetics that if you keep your genetic pools from inter-mixing hey become inbred and break down and this is why we don't breed with our first cousins or sisters, mothers, brothers, etc.

Racism is in fact just a disguised word for people who want to have sex only within their own pack. Its a primal behaviour of certain apes afraid to mate outside their pack but nature requires it for that pack to remain healthy.

So as many apes we have demanding we only have sex within the pack there are those apes who will breed outside the pack to keep the blood lines healthy.

If I were Taxme I would not fret about black or Asian Santa Clauses.

Here is the last hilarious note because I get a kick out of this ridiculous thread.

This Jew has been Santa Claus for many community group for years. I am now Santa  for a group that takes young  men off the street on first offences and teaches them life skills. They come in, serve a meal to the poor and by cooking, serving and washing he dishes it gives them a sense of who they are.

I am the Santa for that group giving out toys. I would say half the children are Muslim that come to the Christmas dinner.

I don't know what it is that a Jew has to explain in Christianity one helps the poor. That is the true pith and substance of Christianity. Its about healing the world through giving to others. Its a simple concept we Jews call Teekam Olam and Christ is shown through his physical actions of cleaning people's feet or laying hands on their wounds as an illustrative example.

Christianity like Judaism because its the same religion save one difference of opinion, is about helping others. It never defined people by skin colour. ironically Islam and other religions don't either.

In fact its people who ignore the religion itself and add their own twists that inject skin colour. The reality is orginal Christians were Jews and Jews of the Middle East were no different than Arab peoples of the Middle East or semites or all the peoples of the Arabian peninsula and that area-brown.

Its kind of hard to remain white when the sun is out all the time. Arabs including the Jews of Arabia and all other peoples were mixes. They would have all kinds of things in them. Hell Alexander's army left blue eyes and blond hair genetic traits. The actual red hair and freckle mutated gene comes from semites (Arabs and Jews) and was brought over by the Moors to Ireland and Europe and the Vikings.

Native peoples of North America we now know didn't just come from the Mongolian planes but also the South Pacific and then would have mixed with "white" Europeans many who could have had black African or Middle East genes in them. Also we know Africans brought over as slaves mixed with native peoples.

The whole damn world is a cocktail. You will not find anyone who thinks they are white who is in fact purely white. There is no such thing. It never existed, it never will exist. Inbreeding would have such a descendant of people die out before it got too pure.

Nature won't allow it.

Consider this tragedy. In Syria because of so much tribal warfare among the people, people from village to village could not trust one another. Its the same in many Muslim countries of the Middle East including Lebanon, Iraq, and Pakistan. As a result there are genetic diseases that result from inbreeding. These diseases often show up when people are in their late teens and inbreeding can cause certain kinds of mental illness and dementia, crippling diseases where the muscles and spinal cord break down.

What we see in Syria now as refugees come to Europe and North America are rates of genetic diseases we don't have here. Gulliane-Barre Syndrome for example. When people  marry first cousins as is common in Muslim countries or in societies with distrust from village to village, such diseases appear.

When this is discussed some people say its racist to discuss it. Its ironic because its the very think certain racists believe in-marrying within one's kind.

Its not just Muslims its anyone of any religion where they marry their cousins or stay within their families to marry because of political or religious beliefs or both. Ultra-Orthodox Jews, Amish, sects of all religions that stay insulated run this risk

So let's end this stupid thread realizing skin colour does not define culture -its a social construct some people cling to because they can't grasp there's something other than just black and white.

You are right when you say that I am honest in my positions. And the reason for that is because I am not politically correct, and I speak my mind, and call it as I read it. I am not scared to question or challenge the status quo. 

So, if we are all genetically mixed up, and we are all from one big happy family from all the different races out there then why do you get all upset about anyone questioning anything that has to do with Judaism or zionism? Why do you care when all that you said above should really make no difference too you at all? And if according too you we are all one, and I have some Jewish blood in me, then why do you make a big deal out of me attacking my own so-called Jewish people. I think that some of them are very bad people. Who knows, you may have some white supremacy blood flowing through your veins right now. Oh boy. I guess then that I might not be the only white supremacist here,  eh?  Cheers.     

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[taxme]

39 minutes ago, Omni said:

We have had Catholic schools for ages, and parades that suggest Santa was a white guy, and those restaurants you support are businesses no? If we force people to assimilate we become racist and boring. Doesn't work for me.

Oh, so what you are saying then is that new immigrants should not assimilate. Too force them to become Canadian, and assimilate themselves into Canadian culture and traditions, well this would make us racist. Wow, interesting. And you are also saying that before multiculturalism was forced on Canadians, Canada was a boring place? Well, when I was growing up in Canada in my younger days I didn't find Canada to be boring at all. I had lot's of fun growing up in Canada. You must have been a very boring person back then. I guess that it worked for you.  

[-1=e^ipi]

16 hours ago, hernanday said:

Can you show me some evidence to support this, I thought odin was a god.

Just google it. http://infolocata.com/mirovia/irrefutable-proof-that-santa-is-odin/

[Omni]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Oh, so what you are saying then is that new immigrants should not assimilate. Too force them to become Canadian, and assimilate themselves into Canadian culture and traditions, well this would make us racist. Wow, interesting. And you are also saying that before multiculturalism was forced on Canadians, Canada was a boring place? Well, when I was growing up in Canada in my younger days I didn't find Canada to be boring at all. I had lot's of fun growing up in Canada. You must have been a very boring person back then. I guess that it worked for you.  

Limiting yourself to a cloistered world is what makes people boring. 

[H10]

12 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Yes I did read the link.

"Nicholas was born in Asia Minor (Greek Anatolia in present-day Turkey) in the Roman Empire, to a Greek family during the third century in the city of Patara (Lycia et Pamphylia) "

Greeks are Mediterranean and classical Greek culture is the foundation of western civilization. That is what matters most here. He was a Christian saint.
"He was the only son of wealthy Christian parents named Epiphanius and Johanna according to some accounts and Theophanes and Nonna according to others. He was very religious from an early age."

Those people may have had darker skin than northern Europeans, such as the Jewish do so while he may not have had "white" skin, the people are still considered Caucasian. Saint Nick was not a black man. Same goes for Jesus.

The evidence shows he is non-white. Ancient Greece was much more racially diverse than you probably thought.

Ancient Greeks.

Greek culture is not the foundation of western civilization, it is actually middle eastern and african civilizations which are the ones who created Greek culture, language, religion and art.

 

 

12 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Also, while he may have been the origin of the Santa myth, Saint Nick was not the "Santa" that we know today. That story comes from Sinterklaas, which I mentioned in my earlier post and is a Scandinavian legend. That's about as white as it gets.

Do you have any evidence of this? Especially given that it was the samis and not germanics who were first in scandinavia.

[OftenWrong]

I've made my points here. For any further reference see http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/real-face/

Time to move on...

[Rue]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

You are right when you say that I am honest in my positions. And the reason for that is because I am not politically correct, and I speak my mind, and call it as I read it. I am not scared to question or challenge the status quo. 

So, if we are all genetically mixed up, and we are all from one big happy family from all the different races out there then why do you get all upset about anyone questioning anything that has to do with Judaism or zionism? Why do you care when all that you said above should really make no difference too you at all? And if according too you we are all one, and I have some Jewish blood in me, then why do you make a big deal out of me attacking my own so-called Jewish people. I think that some of them are very bad people. Who knows, you may have some white supremacy blood flowing through your veins right now. Oh boy. I guess then that I might not be the only white supremacist here,  eh?  Cheers.     

 

I challenge people who hold Jews to an inferior standard than they as you do. I challenge people who make ignorant sweeping false negative stereotypes of Jews as you have done in the past. Then again I do it if you make the same ignorant false negative comments about anyone else as well. Hey Jews aren't the only people you have issues with. Lol.  I challenge people who presume to be entitled to standards others are not.  Your response above is also interesting. Why you would try restate yourself as a Jew let alone someone innocent of an agenda of white superiority is hilarious. Its also dishonest. You not only showed your ignorance as to Saint Nick's origins but now you want to pose yourself as some innocent Jew is it? Lol.  You think your culture is in danger? Man oh man start a thread explaining your culture. You even have one? Lol.

 

Edited December 8, 2016 by Rue

[Rue]

22 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

I didn't deliberately "do" anything. I provided the full link for people to go read themselves, and an explanation. To me the images look more or less the same in skin colour. Certainly not as dark as the medieval images. Sorry that you wasted your time writing a huge tome that was useless. The man was caucasian, as shown by legitimate information.

I didn't waste my time, I exposed how you deliberately ignored the actual skin colour. Its not more or less the same skin colour. Have the decency to walk away. Its pretty blatant what you did.

[Michael Hardner]

Maybe we could make this thread a little more Christmassy ?

[Rue]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

I've made my points here. For any further reference see http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/real-face/

Time to move on...

Yah it is. Next time, don't skip the actual finished picture either presenting the incompleted one as the completed one.

[Rue]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Maybe we could make this thread a little more Christmassy ?

Well what would I know I am a Jew you know.  Hanukah Harry as far as I am concerned is just as suspect as Santa. In this day and age any man their age putting children on their laps are suspect. You know Mr. Hardner Santa would get shot dead coming down the chimney of many a home in the US given their propensity for guns and home invasions. In Canada if some fat guy came down a chimney I had I would probably call the police or panic and hit him with a club.

Think about it. A fat man with reindeer. Think of all the reindeer poo it would leave on your roof and lawn. That's enough to kill him. Also  if he flew over Alleppo he'd be a gonner. Also keeping in mind our F18's are old, they might shoot him down suspecting him of being a North Korean missile, terrorist attack or UFO with dangerous aliens.

Its 2016. Also Santa today is transgendered and given his penchant for red  probably is a Liberal which means he stays out of my friggin house .

Rudolph clearly radioactive from flying over Chernobyl.

Regards

Scrooge McDuck

[OftenWrong]

43 minutes ago, Rue said:

I didn't waste my time, I exposed how you deliberately ignored the actual skin colour. Its not more or less the same skin colour. Have the decency to walk away. Its pretty blatant what you did.

On my screen it is the same. Even if I'm wrong, I'm right.

[OftenWrong]

57 minutes ago, Rue said:

I didn't waste my time

Sure you did. No one in their right mond would read all that. I stopped after about the 3rd sentance.

Why are you so mad? You said you're a jew, right? So why do you even care. Aint no Santa comin to your house no how.

Edited December 8, 2016 by OftenWrong

[Icebound]

On 12/5/2016 at 9:17 PM, bcsapper said:

I wanna see a black Frosty!

When Trump re-energizes the coal industry, you WILL!

I already lived in an era when coal dust covered the snow...... I'll pass on repeating that.

 

 

[Rue]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

Sure you did. No one in their right mond would read all that. I stopped after about the 3rd sentance.

Why are you so mad? You said you're a jew, right? So why do you even care. Aint no Santa comin to your house no how.

Lol the I don't read defence. Oh but you do or you would not respond. Boo.

Listen you  misrepresented a site nd deliberately ignored the actual finished picture. I had no idea caramel colour bothered you so much. Lol.

. If you want to live in a dream world where people from Asia minor are white and you deliberately omit things that don't suit your vision of knock yourself out.

Listen if I can get your "mond" to focus for just one "sentance" its this- my being Jewish was not the issue.  Now that you made it one try not to pretend you can't figure out why a Jew would challenge people who cant handle brown skin. For that matter wrap your head around why anyone Jew or gentile challenges people who have an issue with it.

Yah I know its a difficult concept for you to grasp. Well wrap your "mond" around it.

yoh yoh yoh my santa

well he comes from Atlanta

no not the  North Pole

this dude's got soul

he aint no pale clown

he looks like james  brown

so  have a fit

but you gonna have to dig it

cuz this Santa can move

he got the Yuletide groove

you gotta a problem with his  skin

you aint gonna win

no he aint snow white

try barry white

cut to the chase

this aint bout no Aryan race

its about some guerilla

who insists he's vanilla

and hisses at fur that's black

cause he thinks its from another pack

you call him  a coon

but yer just some baboon

you worry about your female's tale

bein seduced by another pack's alpha male

lol yer quite the site

freakin at the sound of barry white

man oh man

you need to get with the plan

Jesus is one of them

yah you know the hood was Bethlehem

all them boyz n his crew

every one was a dark Jew

no white guy  with a white beard  and red clothes

just some brown dude with a big nose

turn the lights out

he's done

 

Edited December 8, 2016 by Rue

[OftenWrong]

Lol pretty good. Where'd you get that cool tune, dude?

[taxme]

On 12/7/2016 at 2:20 AM, Omni said:

Limiting yourself to a cloistered world is what makes people boring. 

What is really getting boring is listening too people here who are of the liberal Marxist multiculturalists mind. You know, the ones who think that Santa Claus shouldn't be white only at the mall. A tradition that has been around for decades. 

[taxme]

23 hours ago, Rue said:

I challenge people who hold Jews to an inferior standard than they as you do. I challenge people who make ignorant sweeping false negative stereotypes of Jews as you have done in the past. Then again I do it if you make the same ignorant false negative comments about anyone else as well. Hey Jews aren't the only people you have issues with. Lol.  I challenge people who presume to be entitled to standards others are not.  Your response above is also interesting. Why you would try restate yourself as a Jew let alone someone innocent of an agenda of white superiority is hilarious. Its also dishonest. You not only showed your ignorance as to Saint Nick's origins but now you want to pose yourself as some innocent Jew is it? Lol.  You think your culture is in danger? Man oh man start a thread explaining your culture. You even have one? Lol.

 

That is what is so wonderful about being politically incorrect, one need not be afraid to question or challenge anything, especially Judaism or a black Santa at the mall. 

So, if I were to make nasty ignorant sweeping comments about white gentiles would you come too their rescue? I bet you could careless then?  Right?