Is it productive to ban literature?

[drummindiver]

The author of this article states this succinctly,   and I agree.  These books hilight the evils of racism,  and banning them due to their use of racial slurs is counter productive. 

ANY thoughts?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/11275/leftists-virginia-ban-kill-mockingbird-huck-finn-ben-shapiro

[eyeball]

The author of this article sounds as loony as the school that catered to the request to ban these books.

[drummindiver]

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The author of this article sounds as loony as the school that catered to the request to ban these books.

Thanks for that well thought out response.

Clearly, not just this school, as it was banned a month after publication.

 

https://pen.org/nonfiction/mark-twains-huckleberry-finn

[eyeball]

You're welcome.

Banning books is a pretty dumb way to get a mangled point across but not as dumb as trying to imply that dropping a requirement to study the text in class is the same as banning or burning books as the loon you cited put it.

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American school bans Huckleberry Finn from lessons because of 'use of N-word'...

...The Quaker school said the book would remain in its library.

Story

 

 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're welcome.

Banning books is a pretty dumb way to get a mangled point across but not as dumb as trying to imply that dropping a requirement to study the text in class is the same as banning or burning books as the loon you cited put it.

 

I think it's dumber.  Way dumber, actually.  It affects a lot more people.

[eyeball]

I think the dumbing affect you're worried about is already here, as manifest in the belief of the OP that the fake news cited is real...to make some mangled point about lefties apparently.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I think the dumbing affect you're worried about is already here, as manifest in the belief of the OP that the fake news cited is real...to make some mangled point about lefties apparently.

I still think banning books is dumber.  Way dumber.

Edited December 3, 2016 by bcsapper

[eyeball]

I'll go with a little dumber. Its all pretty sad in any case.

 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'll go with a little dumber. Its all pretty sad in any case.

 

I have to admit I didn't read the link.   So I went and read it.  Is it reasonable that a parent should be able to set the curriculum based on what her child thinks of it?  The child could be excused from reading it. There is no reason to deny all the other students the experience. 

[drummindiver]

Fake news? Censoring literature is a slippery slope

 I realize sjws won't see the lessons to be learned due to their blinders. I find the Bible much more racist with their rules of governight slave.

Merchants of Venice uses derogatory Jewish epithets.  I guess we should ban Shakespeare.

Alice Walkers book The Color Purple has also had public debate and calls for it to be banned. 

Why don't we just cancel English classes to ensure we dont offend or frighten.

 

[OftenWrong]

I appose the banning of books. Mein Kampf is banned in Canada, and the library in my town removed it from their shelfs. When I asked why, they said too many people were loaning it out all the time, and the librarian didn't like it.

[Wilber]

Mein Kampf isn't banned in Canada, you can buy it on Amazon.ca, but libraries and stores are free to choose what books they stock.

[?Impact]

59 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Mein Kampf is banned in Canada

No, it is not. If your local library does not carry it, then I suggest downloading a copy from the internet. Either the original or an English translation. 

[OftenWrong]

14 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

No, it is not. If your local library does not carry it, then I suggest downloading a copy from the internet. Either the original or an English translation. 

Ok, I know. It's not banned by the government but it is banned from most book stores. In many countries it is banned however. The question though is should this literature be banned.

Edited December 3, 2016 by OftenWrong
mispelled "it"

[?Impact]

6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

The question though is should this literature be banned.

No, it should not. The librarian is wrong, and this appears to be her issue because she didn't like that many people were borrowing it. Sorry, but that is what a public library is about, and if the book is popular then it might be time to consider purchasing another copy. If she were doing her job as a librarian, then she might want to recommend many of the other books on Hitler or specifically Mein Kampf that discuss it from alternative viewpoints. Your local librarian or library board is not doing it's job. Generally library boards have regular meetings where you can bring up this issue.

[OftenWrong]

4 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

No, it should not. The librarian is wrong, and this appears to be her issue because she didn't like that many people were borrowing it.

Agreed. Librarian's an old man actually. I think is his name is Lipshittz.

[Wilber]

9 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Ok, I know. It's not banned by the government but it is banned from most book stores. In many countries it is banned however. The question though is should this literature be banned.

No, it shouldn't be. Public libraries are an interesting case and individual librarians should not be making those kinds of decisions. No library can carry everything and whether Mein Kampf qualifies as literature is certainly debatable. I think they should carry it just because it is an important historical document. Book stores on the other hand have to be free to sell what they choose. Chapters Indigo made some waves a few years back when they said they wouldn't carry it. Can't say for certain but if I was Jewish and owned a book store, I probably wouldn't carry it either.

[OftenWrong]

1 minute ago, Wilber said:

if I was Jewish and owned a book store, I probably wouldn't carry it either.

Why? What do you mean.

[Wilber]

Just now, OftenWrong said:

Why? What do you mean.

You have to ask?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Agreed. Librarian's an old man actually. I think is his name is Lipshittz.

Maybe he had a personal axe to grind, like the woman in the OP.  Still wrong.

[Moonlight Graham]

Books with racial slurs because they were written in a time when these slurs were acceptable is a lesson in history, and these books are in fact history themselves.  They're lessons to learn from.  Dangerous ideas should be looked at with caution but not banned.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, drummindiver said:

Fake news? Censoring literature is a slippery slope

Yes fake news, no one has censored anything.

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I realize sjws won't see the lessons to be learned due to their blinders.

What lessons and sjw's are you talking about? You still appear to see something everyone else has missed.

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I find the Bible much more racist with their rules of governight slave.

Your source of news is no less ignorant. What the heck is a governight slave?

[drummindiver]

Your ignorance is confounding. I'm sure I'm not the only person on MLW who doesn't think literature should be banned or censored, which it most  assuredly has.

Sorry,  I'm on my phone and have a difficult time with the small keys.

"governing slaves"

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Your ignorance is confounding. I'm sure I'm not the only person on MLW who doesn't think literature should be banned or censored, which it most  assuredly has.

No I'm afraid it's my intelligence that's cornering you. I'm pretty sure everyone on MLW can see thru your attempt to dodge being called on your fake news source.

Of course literature shouldn't be banned nobody here has said anything is being banned except for you and the fake news backing you up.

[drummindiver]

Well, I've posted seveal links regarding this, so which one are you talking about?

A two second search will show you the books that have/are banned.

Intelligence cornered me?

lmfao