Here we go again again with our PM.

[msj]

Thought so; nothing then. 

[bush_cheney2004]

11 minutes ago, msj said:

Thought so; nothing then. 

 

 

Like I said...it is very easy to find Trudeau gaffes about Trump and many other things, unless one doesn't want to find them:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/topvideos/justin-trudeau-says-he-wont-pick-a-fight-with-donald-trump/vi-AAgvDMM?refvid=BBq7oFs

[msj]

Um, do you guys think that every time Trudeau speaks it's a gaffe? Is that why it is so "easy?" 

Nothing in there qualifies.  

It's not like he is talking about just walking up to women and grabbing them by the pussy. 

Now that's a gaffe. 

 

Edited November 29, 2016 by msj

[betsy]

11 hours ago, Smallc said:

Trudeau said nothing before the election.

Yes he did.  Scroll back up.  He made jabs at Trump during the Republican primary.

[poochy]

Here is another article talking about our PM's family link to communism, and while I have no reason to be a big fan of his father's it was also slightly before my time, this article however really does make it clear how large a sack of communist sympathizing dung he was, he even wrote a book about it.  This runs in the family, it's not simply a coincidence, the donations, the admiration for China, the love of Castro.  This family believes in communism.

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/terence-corcoran-why-justin-trudeau-shares-his-dads-love-of-murderous-communist-despots-like-castro

 

[poochy]

11 minutes ago, msj said:

Um, do you guys think that every time Trudeau speaks it's a gaffe? Is that why it is so "easy?" 

Nothing in there qualifies.  

It's not like he is talking about just walking up to women and grabbing them by the pussy. 

Now that's a gaffe. 

 

Yea, showing an admiration for murderous communist dictatorships with a body count of at least 50 million just isn't on the same level, what is wrong with you?

[betsy]

7 minutes ago, msj said:

Um, do you guys think that every time Trudeau speaks it's a gaffe? Is that why it is so "easy?" 

Nothing in there qualifies.  

It's not like he is talking about just walking up to women and grabbing them by the pussy. 

Now that's a gaffe. 

 

Your comparison of Trudeau's gaffes with Trump's is irrelevant. 

It's not even sensible since you're comparing a statement made 10 years ago (which was taken out of context) with Trudeau's gaffes.

 

 

Now....Trudeau isn't going to attend Castro's funeral.  Hmmmmm........I wonder why.  You know what, it's a gaffe again! 

 

It makes him look like he wasn't sincere about saying Castro was a dear family friend.  Why wouldn't he attend the funeral?   Who's saying he can't or shouldn't attend? 

 

He can attend the funeral and give his eulogies.....as long as he makes it clear that he's attending NOT as the PM of Canada.  That's what the problem was all about - he was claiming to speak for all Canada when he glossed over Castro! 

 

Attend, Justin.  Just say you're attending as a dear friend of Castro - after all, he came as your dad's pallbearer in your dad's funeral, did he not?  Why shouldn't you return the favor?

 

 

[msj]

Yeah, because there is a statute of limitations on gaffes in an age of digital recording and storage. 

[msj]

23 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

He can attend the funeral and give his eulogies.....as long as he makes it clear that he's attending NOT as the PM of Canada.  That's what the problem was all about - he was claiming to speak for all Canada when he glossed over Castro! 

When Harper was PM he spoke on behalf of Canadians, AND his wife Laureen, in his mourning and offering of condolences for the unelected King of Saudi Arabia: 

 

Quote

Prime Minister Stephen Harper today issued the following statement on the death of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia:

“On behalf of all Canadians, Laureen and I offer our sincere condolences to the family of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz and the people of Saudi Arabia.

“King Abdullah was recognized as a strong proponent of peace in the Middle East. He also undertook a range of important economic, social, education, health, and infrastructure initiatives in his country.

“I had the pleasure of meeting King Abdullah in Toronto when Canada hosted the G-20 and found him to be passionate about his country, development and the global economy.

“We join the people of Saudi Arabia in mourning his passing.”

 

 

So, I think it appropriate for Trudeau to speak for Canadians as our current PM even if, like Harper's statement, it should have been worded better. 

 

Edited November 29, 2016 by msj

[Boges]

The issues with using King Abdullah as the counterpoint is that had Harper come out strongly against him in death, he'd have been lampooned as being Islamophobic.

The Harper government couldn't condemn honour killings and female circumcision without being labelled as anti-Muslim. 

Edited November 29, 2016 by Boges

[poochy]

44 minutes ago, Boges said:

The issues with using King Abdullah as the counterpoint is that had Harper come out strongly against him in death, he'd have been lampooned as being Islamophobic.

The Harper government couldn't condemn honour killings and female circumcision without being labelled as anti-Muslim. 

It's sad, it ignores the praising of China's dictatorship, it ignores the donations, it ignores his brother writing a love note to Castro, it ignores his fathers relationship not only with Castro but his writing, praising Chairman Mao, maybe the greatest mass murderer ever, but it's all they have.  The things i have learned about this family since this ridiculous gaffe are really disgusting, no matter how desperately liberals want to defend it, defense of this is so stupid that they should simply be ignored, it is in fact indefensible.  Praising Mao, like father like sons.

[?Impact]

I'll see your Trudeau gaffe, and raise you 100 Trump gaffe's.

[Boges]

8 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

I'll see your Trudeau gaffe, and raise you 100 Trump gaffe's.

And shockingly both were legitimately elected.

Democracy is funny eh?

Castro never had to worry about silly things like Democracy. 

[?Impact]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

Democracy is funny eh?

Yup it certainly is. Lose by 2,330,544 votes and still get the Presidency.

[Boges]

1 minute ago, ?Impact said:

Yup it certainly is. Lose by 2,330,544 votes and still get the Presidency.

Only get 35% of the popular vote, get to be the PM. 

If popular vote was the way to win an US election, the candidates would have campaigned much differently. 

[?Impact]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

Only get 35% of the popular vote, get to be the PM. 

If popular vote was the way to win an US election, the candidates would have campaigned much differently. 

Yes, I think our system needs to change as well. I have been advocating proportional representation for years. 

[Queenmandy85]

It is ironic that it is wrong for Trudeau, a head of Government to go, but it is okay for his boss, the Vice Head of State to represent Canada.

[betsy]

3 hours ago, msj said:

When Harper was PM he spoke on behalf of Canadians, AND his wife Laureen, in his mourning and offering of condolences for the unelected King of Saudi Arabia: 

 

You always bring up the king of  Saudi Arabia........explain that.  

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2016 by betsy

[Rue]

Trudeau I am no fan of...but to be fair no matter what he would have said someone would have taken offence to it.

Its much ado about nothing. If someone wants t o say something nasty about Castro, say it for themselves. He's a friggin elected politician

His comments were pretty precise and short.

All those people focused on Castro write an obituary for Donald Trump. See how nice you will be.

 

Edited November 29, 2016 by Rue

[cybercoma]

On 11/27/2016 at 7:59 AM, kimmy said:

Trump is cause for worry for the Canadian economy, but that has nothing to do with Justin's comments about Castro.

Trump's only interest in Cuba is as a source of tremendous cigars, the best cigars.

That and the booming hotel and casino business that used to be in Cuba. I bet Trump would love to get his hands into that. He could "Make Cuba Great Again"

Edited November 29, 2016 by cybercoma

[betsy]

2 hours ago, poochy said:

It's sad, it ignores the praising of China's dictatorship, it ignores the donations, it ignores his brother writing a love note to Castro, it ignores his fathers relationship not only with Castro but his writing, praising Chairman Mao, maybe the greatest mass murderer ever, but it's all they have.  The things i have learned about this family since this ridiculous gaffe are really disgusting, no matter how desperately liberals want to defend it, defense of this is so stupid that they should simply be ignored, it is in fact indefensible.  Praising Mao, like father like sons.

 

They both seem to be admirers of Communism.

Edited November 29, 2016 by betsy

[Rue]

20 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

It is ironic that it is wrong for Trudeau, a head of Government to go, but it is okay for his boss, the Vice Head of State to represent Canada.

Why? Lol Trudeau is so desperate to be liked, he chickened out.

That said, technically its the Governor General not the PM who should go to such funerals. It was always intended that way. PM's have pushed there way into state ceremonies but the head of state is the Queen represented by the GG if she's not there not the PM. The PM is not head of state, he's head of the ruling government. Also he can make all the speeches he wants he doesn't have to get anyone's approval. Some of you make it seem that he can't say anything if it offends you. Get used to it. If a PM didn't say anything you find offensive, he could never be able to speak. Its the nature of the job. Someone is going to take offense to anything he says.

Me I take offence to his hair, his smile, his affected gait and mannerisms, his obsession with needing to be photographed, loved and noticed. So friggin what. I can always turn the damn internet off.

Technically since Castro is no longer the head they should have sent a former GG or former PM's or a mix thereon but sending the GG is not outrageous. Again he didn't go back himself to placate his complainers, and some of you still complain.

Many Canadians vacation in Cuba. Are they commie bastards for having done so?

Come on give it a rest with the Castro commy stuff. This aint the cold war era. You no like you ignore...how hard is that?

[cybercoma]

11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

How many stupid Justin Trudeau utterances do I have to cite ?

Just the ones you're referring to, which you never did provide. So I guess we just shrug and look at you as a liar.

3 hours ago, Boges said:

The issues with using King Abdullah as the counterpoint is that had Harper come out strongly against him in death, he'd have been lampooned as being Islamophobic.

That's odd because as far as I know the left constantly criticizes Saudi Arabia for human rights abuses, while people like Bush and Harper praise the Saudis and Trudeau sells them military hardware.

[Boges]

1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, I think our system needs to change as well. I have been advocating proportional representation for years. 

Heading OPEC buys a lot of respect. 

[?Impact]

So Trudeau is not going to Castro's funeral because he has other commitments, and the Governor General is going. Is this Trudeau capitulating to political pressure, or is it a real conflict. No matter what the truth is, it will be spun by everyone so have at 'er.