DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 I don't know - haven't seen/heard him speak. The video is of Trudeau's words which are the ones that are important here. While the lady MPs stf up...and wear veils though not Muslim...I assume. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Have you not read the quotes attributed to him. . . in this thread? Um, I have watched the video and heard his words. [Of Trudeau] Once again - pretty mundane stuff. He even, gasp, encouraged the Muslims to vote in the next election, even if they don't vote for the Liberals (well, he stated it more blandly than that). BFD. Edited September 15, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Um, I have watched the video and heard his words. Once again - pretty mundane stuff. He even, gasp, encouraged the Muslims to vote in the next election, even if they don't vote for the Liberals (well, he stated it more blandly than that). BFD. See? He's not just about killing all the Jews. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 But the quotes attributed to him when the PM and TV cameras aren't there. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 But the quotes attributed to him when the PM and TV cameras aren't there. Off camera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxnVSnnZs0Q Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 While the lady MPs stf up...and wear veils though not Muslim...I assume. I wonder how many videos there are of Harper talking with women in the background? Who cares. Leaders are gonna talk while the flock get to watch. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 But the quotes attributed to him when the PM and TV cameras aren't there. Can you point to the post # or provide a link? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 I wonder how many videos there are of Harper talking with women in the background? Who cares. Leaders are gonna talk while the flock get to watch. I'm glad you can rationalize it to yourself. Fact is: he went into a mosque that openly segregates against women...among other things...with his silent female MP's taking the side entrance. My wife would have said: FU, Justy. Can you point to the post # or provide a link? Sweet....doesn't trust me. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Off camera? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxnVSnnZs0Q We are talking about Trudeau and what he is saying. You continually bring this guy up as if he is a major part of the discussion - he isn't. We all know Trudeau does not buy into whatever crap this guy is selling so I assume your behaviour here is nothing short of - well you know. Instead of reporting it I am putting you on ignore for a while. Looks like Boges is capable of having a decent and honest discussion with instead. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 We are talking about Trudeau and what he is saying. You continually bring this guy up as if he is a major part of the discussion - he isn't. We all know Trudeau does not buy into whatever crap this guy is selling so I assume your behaviour here is nothing short of - well you know. Instead of reporting it I am putting you on ignore for a while. Looks like Boges is capable of having a decent and honest discussion with instead. It's that Egyptian sweetheart's mosque. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Have you not read the quotes attributed to him. . . in this thread? If you are talking about the Muslim dude that DOP is talking about - then no. I trust the guy is an extremist blowhard but that is not what I have been discussing in this thread. To me this is about Trudeau going to a mosque and speaking a few words about "peace" and "diversity" and other fluffy stuff. That's it. No, I don't think when you share the same breathing space as some antisemitic jerkhole that this makes you to also be an antisemtic jerkhole too. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 If you are talking about the Muslim dude that DOP is talking about - then no. I trust the guy is an extremist blowhard but that is not what I have been discussing in this thread. To me this is about Trudeau going to a mosque and speaking a few words about "peace" and "diversity" and other fluffy stuff. That's it. No, I don't think when you share the same breathing space as some antisemitic jerkhole that this makes you to also be an antisemtic jerkhole too. And there we have the modern feminist. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 If you are talking about the Muslim dude that DOP is talking about - then no. I trust the guy is an extremist blowhard but that is not what I have been discussing in this thread. To me this is about Trudeau going to a mosque and speaking a few words about "peace" and "diversity" and other fluffy stuff. That's it. No, I don't think when you share the same breathing space as some antisemitic jerkhole that this makes you to also be an antisemtic jerkhole too. Trump got grief because he was endorsed by David Duke until he gave an outright rebuke of him. He didn't even share the same camera space with him. This dude makes him seem rather tame TBH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMu8ihDlVA My point, and we're going in circles here where neither of us are going to get an A-HA moment, is that JT went to a Mosque that preaches the most extreme form of Islam. When someone points out horrible things that Muslims have done, it's always met with the response that Most Muslims are peaceful and moderate. So on a Muslim Holy Day (that was also 911 FTR), why not do homework and try to bring up a more moderate Mosque as an example and visit there instead of a Mosque founded by an Anti-Semite Misogynist that wants Apostate's killed? But seems you guys are cool with it, so what-evs. Quote
Smallc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 While the lady MPs stf up...and wear veils though not Muslim...I assume. If you're in someone else's house of worship, you follow their customs. There's nothing wrong with that. Quote
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) Trump got grief because he was endorsed by David Duke until he gave an outright rebuke of him. He didn't even share the same camera space with him. This dude makes him seem rather tame TBH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMu8ihDlVA When you find one of MY posts talking about Trump and David Duke then, sure, point it out. But you won't since I would rather rely on the actions/words of the person (Trump or Trudeau) than who they are supposedly associated/affiliated with. For example, Trump is associated with some mafiosi through his business dealings. I think that is highly likely - hell, you do six degrees of separation for myself and you can tie me to some too for that matter. Does not mean Trump is a mafiosi. [but maybe I am ] My point, and we're going in circles here where neither of us are going to get an A-HA moment, is that JT went to a Mosque that preaches the most extreme form of Islam. When someone points out horrible things that Muslims have done, it's always met with the response that Most Muslims are peaceful and moderate. So on a Muslim Holy Day (that was also 911 FTR), why not do homework and try to bring up a more moderate Mosque as an example and visit there instead of a Mosque founded by an Anti-Semite Misogynist that wants Apostate's killed? But seems you guys are cool with it, so what-evs. I think the context of Trudeau going into a mosque showing his "respect for religious freedom" while bringing women into the mens holy room, while referencing the women "upstairs" and specifically the women within the mens holy room, while talking about peace and diversity and compassion which are antithetical to some of the extremists in that very room, is a very sly way of giving those types of people the middle finger. It is nice and fluffy and seems respectful (arguably too deferential to religion) but that's what is really going on there, imo. Sure, perhaps it is too subtle, too "Art of War" for people like you and others but to me that is the long game: a war of words and actions and sometimes being nice leads to a different place than ignoring or going in mouth a blazing. Edited September 15, 2016 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
overthere Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 If you're in someone else's house of worship, you follow their customs. There's nothing wrong with that. So when you visit a traditional Mormon home in Bountiful BC, you jump into the sack with all the wives? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 If you're in someone else's house of worship, you follow their customs. There's nothing wrong with that. My wife would have torn Justin a new one. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
PIK Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Is trudeau scared to be questioned by adults?? It seems he is always having kids give him questions. That interview with him last night was a joke. And did you see the death stare martin got when he asked trudeau about his father and staying out of peoples bedrooms. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Smallc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 (edited) So when you visit a traditional Mormon home in Bountiful BC, you jump into the sack with all the wives? Only if I can. My wife would have torn Justin a new one. Good for her? Is trudeau scared to be questioned by adults?? It seems he is always having kids give him questions. That interview with him last night was a joke. And did you see the death stare martin got when he asked trudeau about his father and staying out of peoples bedrooms. Is Don Martin a child? Trudeau holds 3 portfolios, one as the Minister for Youth. Edited September 15, 2016 by Smallc Quote
msj Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Is trudeau scared to be questioned by adults?? It seems he is always having kids give him questions. That interview with him last night was a joke. And did you see the death stare martin got when he asked trudeau about his father and staying out of peoples bedrooms. Pardon the language but WTF is wrong with you? Fine if you want to do the thread drift - that's for Charles/Michael to weigh in on - but if you are going to state this how about backing it up with a link so we can see the video and have an idea of WTF you are talking about? No, seriously, why can't anyone reference anything? Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Good for her? Yes...good for her. Should my wife STF-up and get in the veil like Trudeau's brave feminist MPs? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Pardon the language but WTF is wrong with you? Fine if you want to do the thread drift - that's for Charles/Michael to weigh in on - but if you are going to state this how about backing it up with a link so we can see the video and have an idea of WTF you are talking about? No, seriously, why can't anyone reference anything? For reference, you can see the video here: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/victims-rights-the-reason-for-tootoo-secrecy-trudeau-says-1.3072218 He spends the first ~15 minutes talking to the child Don Martin. Quote
Smallc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 Yes...good for her. Should my wife STF-up and get in the veil like Trudeau's brave feminist MPs? I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. He brought 3 female MPs with him...they had to enter via 'the woman's entrance'...wear veils...and didn't say a f---ing thing. Good girls. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted September 15, 2016 Report Posted September 15, 2016 He brought 3 female MPs with him...they had to enter via 'the woman's entrance'...wear veils...and didn't say a f---ing thing. Good girls. He should have brought more security. Maybe they could have shot the place up instead Quote
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