Boges Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 And it wasn't changing "All our Sons" to "All of Us" like JT wants. http://www.12up.com/posts/3453787-video-words-to-the-canadian-national-anthem-inexplicably-changed-at-asg?a_aid=40030 Many of you are probably not familiar with the lyrics to "O, Canada", so let me explain. There is a line that is supposed to say, "With glowing hearts we see thee rise, The True North strong and free!" Instead, The Tenors disregarded that line entirely and substituted this: "To our brothers and sisters all lives matter to the brave". So not only did the group completely offend an entire nation by changing the words to their national anthem, but they also made a poor political stand in a place where all politics should be left out. So apparently saying All Lives Matter as a counter-point to Black Lives Matter is super racist. This should spark some controversy tomorrow. Quote
Guest Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 And it wasn't changing "All our Sons" to "All of Us" like JT wants. http://www.12up.com/posts/3453787-video-words-to-the-canadian-national-anthem-inexplicably-changed-at-asg?a_aid=40030 So apparently saying All Lives Matter as a counter-point to Black Lives Matter is super racist. This should spark some controversy tomorrow. Dammit, I missed that. I started listening to it but it put me in mind of Bleeding Gums Murphy so I tuned it out. Quote
Wilber Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 My opinion of them just dropped. It's not their anthem to screw with and I'm sick of people who do. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Guest Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Agreed. I might not like it but it's up to the government to change it. Not some celebrity nitwits. Edited July 13, 2016 by bcsapper Quote
waldo Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 Apparently it was a "lone wolf". links are always helpful! Quote
Big Guy Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 The National Anthem is a solemn musical tribute to the nation. That is why it is expected that people stand to recognize its reflection of the pride of the nation. It is not a commercialized tune which can be changed at will or to satisfy an agenda. This was an insult to Canadians and bone head move on the part of the individual. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 Perhaps the Liberals should have called for a new anthem instead of changing the words to O Canada. I've always liked the music to The Maple Leaf forever, and it reflects the flag. Many people are saying they had never heard of the Tenors. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Expect the Canadian mainstream media to disallow comments on this topic. Can't risk people forming the wrong opinion... Also, people are ignoring the bigger controversy here. 'to our brothers and sisters' is an agendered microaggression. 'to our siblings' would have been more appropriate. Edited July 13, 2016 by -1=e^ipi Quote
The_Squid Posted July 13, 2016 Report Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Expect whiny anonymous forum creeps to be concerned about a lack of comments allowed on news websites. Edited July 13, 2016 by The_Squid Quote
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Perhaps the Liberals should have called for a new anthem instead of changing the words to O Canada. I've always liked the music to The Maple Leaf forever, and it reflects the flag. Many people are saying they had never heard of the Tenors. I have to admit I never had. When I heard them introduced, I thought it was Plácido Domingo, Luciano Pavarotti and the other guy. Quote
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 links are always helpful! But it was on the televisionnnnn....... Quote
Bryan Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 So apparently saying All Lives Matter as a counter-point to Black Lives Matter is super racist. It isn't, but some people melt down when they hear it, so the media will gladly whip the frenzy up for them. Quote
eyeball Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 So apparently saying All Lives Matter as a counter-point to Black Lives Matter is super racist. This should spark some controversy tomorrow. Sort of along the lines of Jason Kenny's quip about Canada's First Settlers did except Kenny deliberately meant to diminish the distinctiveness and identity of Canada's 1st Nations. All identities should matter but at the same time I'm an Earthling. I'll cut the rogue tenor some slack because I think he meant well however poorly thought out the manner by which he chose to express it. As a parent of a schizophrenic I do know that black parents aren't the only one's having the cop-talk with their kids. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Sort of along the lines of Jason Kenny's quip about Canada's First Settlers No it's not. Quote
eyeball Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Yes it is and you'll never understand why that is if you ignore the rest of the sentence you snipped off. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 No it isn't and I'm not ignoring it, I just think it's a ridiculous accusation. Quote
eyeball Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Jason Kenny is saying native identity doesn't matter - they're just settlers, no different than anyone else. Naturally this is going to get under the skin of native Canadians. Remigio Pereira struck the same nerve and however well intentioned it hurt instead of soothed. However much their racial identity is a real pain in the ass when it comes to dealing with cops or rednecked Albertans their identities are also a key to alleviating that pain. Trying to blur or worse go under the importance of racial lines is just stupid. Trying to rise above them obviously takes more delicacy than Pereira exhibited. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Big Guy Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Saw the other members of the Four Tenors on CBC. Looks like soon its going to be the Three Tenors. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Scott Mayers Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Sort of along the lines of Jason Kenny's quip about Canada's First Settlers did except Kenny deliberately meant to diminish the distinctiveness and identity of Canada's 1st Nations. All identities should matter but at the same time I'm an Earthling. I'll cut the rogue tenor some slack because I think he meant well however poorly thought out the manner by which he chose to express it. As a parent of a schizophrenic I do know that black parents aren't the only one's having the cop-talk with their kids. I agree. I also think even should one be intending insult, like burning a flag, can and should be 'allowed'. I interpreted the guy as reflecting the frustration of backlash against some conspiratorial 'white' (and 'male') population through the extremes of the collective Nationalists (by my broad definition). I'm getting tired of it too. I've always been fair to everyone more than many others I've witnessed from all backgrounds. But it is becoming virtually illegal to speak against the present onslaught of cultural supremacists asserting their victimhood as due to a whole genetic 'white' and 'male' class, most of whom don't even associate with ANY cult themselves in contrast to those 'white males' who also support the trend, given their own onus to being the ones who are most guilty of such discrimination in fact! If you are one who feels that "we" all belong to some ethnic, cultural, or religious distinct group by default, it is most likely that YOU ARE of those who create the very stereotypes causing all the hate. The majority of people everywhere are mixed genetics who lack any strict association to your cultural nationalism or 'pride'. And you're enhancing the problem by such belief as you treat the 'cure' to your own in-group problems by a vengeful opposing discrimination that penalizes only those who disagree to either of your extremes. Quote
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Report Posted July 14, 2016 Jason Kenny is saying native identity doesn't matter - they're just settlers, no different than anyone else. Naturally this is going to get under the skin of native Canadians. Remigio Pereira struck the same nerve and however well intentioned it hurt instead of soothed. However much their racial identity is a real pain in the ass when it comes to dealing with cops or rednecked Albertans their identities are also a key to alleviating that pain. Trying to blur or worse go under the importance of racial lines is just stupid. Trying to rise above them obviously takes more delicacy than Pereira exhibited. Native identity isn't affected by their being settlers. But that's not the point. You want to cut this guy some slack when he changed the national anthem in front of millions, but Kenney's an awful person because he tweeted a congratulatory message to FN. I don't have a bone to pick with either of them, but if I did, it would be with the one with the better singing voice. Quote
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