Our new Syrian refugee immigrants.

[G Huxley]

It’s easy for keyboard warriors and politicians to be “Liberal” (pun intended) with other people’s money.

I just spoke yesterday with a German who is about 18 years old working in a local athletics store. His English seemed rather good for a recent immigrant. He said that his parents sent him to an “American school” since “like all Germans, we want to come” to the States.

Not just all Germans, much of the world wants to live in Canada.

Think about for one second what that would mean with open borders.

Edited May 25, 2016 by G Huxley

[eyeball]

We'd have the biggest economy on the planet.

[DogOnPorch]

And the Fraser would run purple...

[G Huxley]

We'd have the biggest economy on the planet.

Sick... This is how twisted liberal thinking is. That would mean utter destruction of the environment like in China and in the USA.

Perhaps you would prefer living in a country with a massive population and 'bigger economy'? Might I suggest, China, India, Nigeria, Indonesia, the USA perhaps?

Edited May 26, 2016 by G Huxley

[G Huxley]

And the Fraser would run purple...

The liberal dream a completely toxic planet for cash.

Perhaps he'd prefer the Fraser looked like the Ganges or the Yangtze.

Edited May 26, 2016 by G Huxley

[eyeball]

I never said its what I want just what it would be. In any case we'll probably get that many just from climate change alone - it's not like this hasn't been news for decades now. You guys figure on building a wall or something? It wasn't that long ago that some economists were saying we'd need a 100 million Canadians by the end of the century just to keep Canada functioning.

We'll probably need a 100 million just for the effort to keep a billion from trying to come in.

[G Huxley]

We won't even enforce our border now. Why would they when there are 100 million here?

[waldo]

Think about for one second what that would mean with open borders.

why the "open borders" foreboding reference... no need; apparently, to you... just 25,000 Syrian refugees (spread out across Canada, no less) are devastating Canada's environment! Have you ever traveled Canada... it's a pretty big space there, you know! Suggest you get a grip.

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[scribblet]

Where would 100 million people live and work, we know most would want to be in the large cities, not farming or freezing their buns off in the north. Much of Canada is not habitable or arable.

[DogOnPorch]

Where would 100 million people live and work, we know most would want to be in the large cities, not farming or freezing their buns off in the north. Much of Canada is not habitable or arable.

There is some room on deck of eyeball's boat, I'm sure.

[G Huxley]

why the "open borders" foreboding reference... no need; apparently, to you... just 25,000 Syrian refugees (spread out across Canada, no less) are devastating Canada's environment! Have you ever traveled Canada... it's a pretty big space there, you know! Suggest you get a grip.

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Well I'm not just referring to the 25,000 Syrian refugees (per year slated now), but to the other 275,000 immigrants, but let's say even with 25,000 Syrian refugees. Middle Eastern families often have massive family sizes like 10 children per family. Also they will try to bring in their extended families and likely succeed to some extent. Some Middle Eastern families literally have 30,000 members. So let's say 10 children per family (and you probably noticed in the news reports often the refugees have big families. Multiply that by 10 by 10 and by 10 3 generations and already just from that 25,000 alone from one year you have about 2.5% of the entire Canadian population another generation and that jumps to 25% etc.

Canada is beautiful precisely because of its vast open spaces that are uninhabited, but even despite that we are devastating the environment right now and it is only getting worse.

[G Huxley]

Where would 100 million people live and work, we know most would want to be in the large cities, not farming or freezing their buns off in the north. Much of Canada is not habitable or arable.

And cities require massive amounts of resources including farming to sustain them. An entire city means every bit of metal in its sky scrapers was pulled out of the ground.

[G Huxley]

There is some room on deck of eyeball's boat, I'm sure.

This one?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/25/five-refugees-drown-overcrowded-boat-overturns-libyan-coast

[WestCoastRunner]

Falluja: The American and Iraqi 'graveyard'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/world/iraq-falluja-sad-history/index.html

With accounts like these it's a tragedy that more countries including Canada and the U.S aren't accepting more refugees.

This may be the wrong thread but I honestly didn't feel like starting another thread on refugees.

Edited June 4, 2016 by WestCoastRunner

[TimG]

With accounts like these it's a tragedy that more countries including Canada and the U.S aren't accepting more refugees.

The world is filled with messed up countries with millions - if not billions - of hard luck stories. It is simply not possible to help everyone and it is silly to think that throwing a way a few lottery tickets is going to change anything. There are lots of people living in Canada who should be the priority for any resources make available for altruistic efforts.

[WestCoastRunner]

The world is filled with messed up countries with millions - if not billions - of hard luck stories. It is simply not possible to help everyone and it is silly to think that throwing a way a few lottery tickets is going to change anything. There are lots of people living in Canada who should be the priority for any resources make available for altruistic efforts.

Why do you think Canadians in need are not treated with a priority?

[G Huxley]

Falluja: The American and Iraqi 'graveyard'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/world/iraq-falluja-sad-history/index.html

With accounts like these it's a tragedy that more countries including Canada and the U.S aren't accepting more refugees.

This may be the wrong thread but I honestly didn't feel like starting another thread on refugees.

You've got to be kidding. Iraq's population is actually sky rocketing despite all this. If their life is such a hell hole, they should stop reproducing and drop their insane religion which tells them to be fruitful and multiply.

Many of these Sunni refugees are the same people that waged genocide against the Kurds, Yazidis, the Marsh Arabs, the Shiites, the Mandaeans, Christians and countless others.

Edited June 4, 2016 by G Huxley

[G Huxley]

One-third of bird species in danger

http://www.columbiavalleypioneer.com/?p=17965

but we need more immigrants, because we need to drive even more species extinct for our insane Christian morality.

Edited June 4, 2016 by G Huxley

[TimG]

Why do you think Canadians in need are not treated with a priority?

We apparently spent $1 billion bringing a few Syria refugees here. How much good could that have done if it was spent on support for Canadians with disabilities or addressing living conditions on Aboriginal reserves.

The trouble with bleeding hearts is they think there is an infinite pile of money to be spent on any cause that catches their fancy. That is a delusions. The real world has finite resources and if those resources are spent on one cause another cause is left short.

[G Huxley]

Exactly it's the zero sum principle.

Let's benefit the first nations and other Canadians and not overwhelm them with even further outside populations.

If people suffer, because they won't lower their birth rates and hold onto insane beliefs, that is their fault.

Edited June 4, 2016 by G Huxley

[waldo]

One-third of bird species in danger

http://www.columbiavalleypioneer.com/?p=17965

but we need more immigrants, because we need to drive even more species extinct for our insane Christian morality.

that sir, that is a "non-sequitur". Are you able to provide correlation and quantification as to the direct/indirect impact of refugees (you know... this thread, focused on refugees) on wetland/grassland loss or encroachment? Alternatively, accepting to extending on the thread focus, I trust board moderation would have latitude for you to broaden your study review to include immigrants as well.

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[Icebound]

Hey! I got it! Let`s send the refugees out to reserves. Our federal governments of every persuasion seem to want to give Canada to the aboriginals, so let`s REALLY give them a piece of the action. Let THEM take care of the refugees.

Be very careful that YOU are not the one ending up on "reserves".

If you are not aboriginal, your existence here is "legal" only under a 15th century Papal decree know as the "Doctrine of Discovery". (part of why this country says it was "originated" as a "Christian" country, but I digress).

There has been an effective lobby to have the Vatican repeal this doctrine.

http://www.doctrineofdiscovery.org/

http://aptn.ca/news/2016/06/01/church-considering-request-to-rescind-doctrine-of-discovery/

Canada, the US, and other countries have pieces of this Doctrine chiseled into their constitutions... and when it is repealed, the already-tenuous legal framework for our occupancy here becomes zero.

Unless we want civil war, we better play nice. If we think we have strong arguments to make about the contribution that WE have made to the well-being of this land's inhabitants, we should be using our energy to prove it, and use that leverage to negotiate agreements for long-term peace going forward.

... If, instead, we have raped the country of its resources, moved its wealth into a very few pockets (especially offshore pockets), and have impoverished all other aboriginals, colonists, immigrants, and refugees alike.... then maybe we should be very afraid.

[Argus]

Falluja: The American and Iraqi 'graveyard'

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/world/iraq-falluja-sad-history/index.html

With accounts like these it's a tragedy that more countries including Canada and the U.S aren't accepting more refugees.

So we can be more like Iraq? Are you willing to wear a hijab, or be assaulted on the street for not wearing one?

Edited June 4, 2016 by Argus

[G Huxley]

that sir, that is a "non-sequitur". Are you able to provide correlation and quantification as to the direct/indirect impact of refugees (you know... this thread, focused on refugees) on wetland/grassland loss or encroachment? Alternatively, accepting to extending on the thread focus, I trust board moderation would have latitude for you to broaden your study review to include immigrants as well.

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I don't need to explain the link between humans and natural habitat loss to an adult. Maybe a kindergartner.

[waldo]

I don't need to explain the link between humans and natural habitat loss to an adult. Maybe a kindergartner.

insult notwithstanding, that's not what you were asked. Your penchant is to take your "enthusiasm" for the environment into many threads not principally focused in that regard. You've taken a particular tact to use it as a wedge play in regards to population growth and refugees/immigrants. I simply pointed out the non-sequitur nature of your post and requested you attempt to provide correlation and quantification as to the direct/indirect impact of refugees/immigrants on wetland and/or grassland loss or encroachment?

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