CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 Canada keeps no such statistics, but as far as I'm aware from the ones I have seen over the years the vast majority of interracial violence in the US, UK and Europe, including sexual assaults, has the 'minority' person as the assailant, not the victim. This is ridiculous and another FALSE statement. Quote
taxme Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) I got news for you. Canada is indeed a multicultural country (unless you still live in the past, like 70 years ago) and there is no need to give them the impression because IT IS A FACT that their culture and language and religion are equal to all others and this is written in our Charter of rights and freedom that citizens regardless of race, religion, origin, language, orientation have equal rights. ---SNIP--- I say this because I was in (UK) and that region is fairly racist (this was a couple of decades ago). I decided to go to a foreign restaurant advised by my hotel manager. So I was having my dinner and I heard some altercation near where I was sitting. I heard the white big English guy (with shaved head) who have eaten as much as a horse (I saw a few empty plates on his table) but refusing to pay saying that those people are allowed to come into his country and now he is entitled to a free dinner because he is now unemployed because of them!!!!!!!. He was arguing that they owe him at least that much to give him a free dinner for one night. How ridiculous one can get. There is no limit to stupidity and arrogancy of extreme right. I guess that one can say that Canada is multicultural today because we are allowing every ethnicity on earth to come on in, and allowing them to bring their culture with them. In the creation of this country multiculturalism was not a factor. I don't believe that the word was ever used or heard of in Canada in those days over a hundred years ago. Our immigrants mainly came from Britain and Europe. We were all, as they say, children of a common mother. Now we are being told today, and being given the impression that Canada has always been multicultural right from it's beginning. If that were the case than why was Canada so Caucasian during it's founding and decades after that right up to the 60's? It's only during the late sixties that Canada changed it's immigration policy, and started to cut back on British/European immigration, and instead opened the door to the rest of whole world, and less of the other. Look, I have nothing against non-white immigration. The problem that I am having today with our present day immigration policy is that there are far too many immigrants coming into Canada from the non-white world. 80-85% of our new immigrants are coming from non-white countries. It is changing Canada and it's makeup. And I will go as far as to say that what our politicians are doing to Canada today is committing racial suicide. The end of Caucasian majority. This should not be allowed. You say that "immigrants don't owe me anything". Well I don't owe immigrants anything either but yet I have to pay for many of them that come here and cannot pay their way. My tax dollars are being wasted on so many people who should not be here. If an immigrant wants to come to Canada well they better have plenty of money because if they do not then they should not be allowed to come to Canada if they are going to suck off the system. Canada is bringing in too many such immigrants and it is costing the host Canadian taxpayer's billions of their tax dollars to look after immigrants who cannot make it here. And now I just heard on the CBC this morning that the liberals are planning on bringing in another 300,000 more refugees into Canada within the next year. Isn't that just dandy. More people to suck off the system, and the taxpayer's in this country. Meanwhile there will now be Canadians who will have to get in line with these new refugees in the hospital lineup, and wait there turn. No wonder our medical system is dying, we keep adding more people to it. Canadians need to wake the heck up before we go bankrupt, thanks to politicians and their love for multiculturalism and refugees. We cannot afford to keep this up. And where are all the environmentalists on this refugee issue? They cry about the trees and the frogs, and what is happening to them but yet are quiet on all the toll that all these new immigrants are going to do to their beloved environment. They should be the first people to shout out about this but the silence is deafening. Like I said already if a new immigrant comes to Canada then they should know English, and learn to speak it quickly. Being allowed to put signs up in their own language is just not being or becoming Canadian. We speak English here, and they should be told that. Edited March 8, 2016 by Charles Anthony excessive quoting; [---SNIP---] Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) And now I just heard on the CBC this morning that the liberals are planning on bringing in another 300,000 more refugees into Canada within the next year. This is a lie. When you want to make false statements at least try something that can't be easily verified (like Argus does). http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-plans-to-welcome-300-000-newcomers-this-year-mccallum-1.2808284 Only 60.000 of the 300.000 planned are refugees which is bad enough (I like to see skilled, educated or rich immigrants regardless of race or color) and the rest are immigrants. 160,000 are skilled refugees and caregiver (to take care of sick and old and needy). This is only a 7.4% increase in the number of new immigrants from the previous conservative government. Now I personally believe that the number needs to be cut in half and adaptability should carry a lot more weight. Edited March 8, 2016 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Argus Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) This is ridiculous and another FALSE statement. Really? How do you know that? The FBI stats are unequivocal on who is attacking whom. British stats are also quite clear. In 2005-6, 1,543 victims of racist crime in Scotland were of Pakistani origin, while more than 1,000 victims were classed as being white British.[21] The British Crime Survey reveals that in 2004, 87,000 people from black or minority ethnic communities said they had been a victim of a racially motivated crime. They had suffered 49,000 violent attacks, with 4,000 being wounded. At the same time 92,000 white people said they had also fallen victim of a racially motivated crime. The number of violent attacks against whites reached 77,000, while the number of white people who reported being wounded was five times the number of black and minority ethnic victims at 20,000.[22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/ Edited March 9, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bonam Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 Really? How do you know that? The FBI stats are unequivocal on who is attacking whom. British stats are also quite clear. In 2005-6, 1,543 victims of racist crime in Scotland were of Pakistani origin, while more than 1,000 victims were classed as being white British.[21] The British Crime Survey reveals that in 2004, 87,000 people from black or minority ethnic communities said they had been a victim of a racially motivated crime. They had suffered 49,000 violent attacks, with 4,000 being wounded. At the same time 92,000 white people said they had also fallen victim of a racially motivated crime. The number of violent attacks against whites reached 77,000, while the number of white people who reported being wounded was five times the number of black and minority ethnic victims at 20,000.[22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent-crime/ And of course Jewish people remain the number one victims of hate crimes (per capita) in all European countries, by about an order of magnitude. Something no one ever mentions these days as a new wave of anti-semitism is beginning to sweep Europe. Quote
taxme Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Posted March 9, 2016 This is a lie. When you want to make false statements at least try something that can't be easily verified (like Argus does). http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-plans-to-welcome-300-000-newcomers-this-year-mccallum-1.2808284 Only 60.000 of the 300.000 planned are refugees which is bad enough (I like to see skilled, educated or rich immigrants regardless of race or color) and the rest are immigrants. 160,000 are skilled refugees and caregiver (to take care of sick and old and needy). This is only a 7.4% increase in the number of new immigrants from the previous conservative government. Now I personally believe that the number needs to be cut in half and adaptability should carry a lot more weight. Don't accuse me of telling lies. I told you that I had heard this on the CBC news channel this morning. I didn't make it up. The announcer made it sound like it was 300,000 refugees. Quote
taxme Posted March 9, 2016 Author Report Posted March 9, 2016 And of course Jewish people remain the number one victims of hate crimes (per capita) in all European countries, by about an order of magnitude. Something no one ever mentions these days as a new wave of anti-semitism is beginning to sweep Europe. Why or what do you think is the reason for all this anti-semitism going on in Europe? Quote
Bonam Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 Why or what do you think is the reason for all this anti-semitism going on in Europe? Anti-Israel propaganda and the influx of Arabs, of course. Quote
Argus Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 Anti-Israel propaganda and the influx of Arabs, of course. The violent kind of antisemitism is, due primarily the latter. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
BubberMiley Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 The violent kind of antisemitism is, due primarily the latter.Do you have a source for that information (preferably one that understands the most basic rules of punctuation)? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
The_Squid Posted March 9, 2016 Report Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Christians perfected antisemitism. ---------------------------------------------------------- Edited March 9, 2016 by The_Squid Quote
Argus Posted March 10, 2016 Report Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Do you have a source for that information (preferably one that understands the most basic rules of punctuation)? Aww, a punctuation flame! How cute! Haven't seen the like in years! Most people would be embarrassed at something that petty, but I congratulate you on swallowing your pride! Anti-Semitic incidents around the world have more than doubled in 2009 over the previous year, and most violent attacks in Western Europe come from people of Arab or Muslim heritage. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Antisemitism Edited March 10, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
taxme Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Posted March 10, 2016 Christians perfected antisemitism. ---------------------------------------------------------- Well, what does Judeo/Christian together mean then? Quote
jacee Posted March 10, 2016 Report Posted March 10, 2016 Don't accuse me of telling lies. I told you that I had heard this on the CBC news channel this morning. I didn't make it up. The announcer made it sound like it was 300,000 refugees. Clearly you weren't listening carefully. You've been corrected several time but you continue to lie and you haven't bothered to Google the correct info: 300,000 immigrants. Not 300,000 refugees. . Quote
jacee Posted March 10, 2016 Report Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I guess that one can say that Canada is multicultural today because we are allowing every ethnicity on earth to come on in, and allowing them to bring their culture with them. In the creation of this country multiculturalism was not a factor. I don't believe that the word was ever used or heard of in Canada in those days over a hundred years ago. Our immigrants mainly came from Britain and Europe. We were all, as they say, children of a common mother. Now we are being told today, and being given the impression that Canada has always been multicultural right from it's beginning. If that were the case than why was Canada so Caucasian during it's founding and decades after that right up to the 60's? It's only during the late sixties that Canada changed it's immigration policy, and started to cut back on British/European immigration, and instead opened the door to the rest of whole world, and less of the other.We haven't "cut back". That's nonsense. Look, I have nothing against non-white immigration. The problem that I am having today with our present day immigration policy is that there are far too many immigrants coming into Canada from the non-white world.That's a contradiction. 80-85% of our new immigrants are coming from non-white countries. It is changing Canada and it's makeup. And I will go as far as to say that what our politicians are doing to Canada today is committing racial suicide. The end of Caucasian majority. This should not be allowed. Why not? Racist nonsense. You say that "immigrants don't owe me anything". Well I don't owe immigrants anything either but yet I have to pay for many of them that come here and cannot pay their way. My tax dollars are being wasted on so many people who should not be here. If an immigrant wants to come to Canada well they better have plenty of money because if they do not then they should not be allowed to come to Canada if they are going to suck off the system. Canada is bringing in too many such immigrants and it is costing the host Canadian taxpayer's billions of their tax dollars to look after immigrants who cannot make it here.Are we still giving away 'free (stolen) land' - 160 acres - like the early Canadian settlers got? Seems like immigrants today are getting a lot less than in the past. Like I said already if a new immigrant comes to Canada then they should know English, and learn to speak it quickly. Being allowed to put signs up in their own language is just not being or becoming Canadian. We speak English here, and they should be told that.We speak English and French (you forgot that) officially, and people are free to use whatever language they wish and serve ethnic communities in whatever language is comfortable for them. Everyone is welcome to shop there, but if they act like ignorant racist pigs and make a big stink, they may be told to leave. Manners and respect are important in any language. . Edited March 10, 2016 by jacee Quote
Argus Posted March 10, 2016 Report Posted March 10, 2016 Christians perfected antisemitism. ---------------------------------------------------------- Islam has been pretty darn expert at it, too. However, Christians have reformed. Muslims, not so much. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2016 Report Posted March 10, 2016 Islam has been pretty darn expert at it, too. However, Christians have reformed. Muslims, not so much. Christians...and everybody, ultimately...are in for a bit of a surprise come Judgement Day. Muslim Jesus plans on slaying all the non-Muslims. Interfaith dialogue that! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
-1=e^ipi Posted March 13, 2016 Report Posted March 13, 2016 You people here that think freedom of speech should not include saying things that are 'hateful' or 'offensive' would have me thrown in jail for 10 years and receive 2000 lashes if we were living in Saudi Arabia. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-sentence-man-to-10-years-in-prison-and-2000-lashes-for-expressing-his-atheism-on-a6900056.html This man said hateful things, insulted islam, and hurt the feelings of muslims. If I lived in such a country, I'd probably end up doing the same thing. Quote
jazzer Posted March 26, 2016 Report Posted March 26, 2016 No it is not. Have you ever actually read the Charter? Well, maybe not in the charter but in the Canadian multicultural act it states: (i) preserve and enhance the use of languages other than English and French... Quote
betsy Posted March 26, 2016 Report Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Does anyone know if there is some kind of law in place that says that if any Canadian criticizes any religion, they are subject to a fine or jail? Is this for real. The reason I am asking is that I was watching a talk show on American TV about Islam, and the guy being interviewed said that this was a law in Canada. This guy was originally from Europe and in some European countries it is against the law to say anything demeaning against any religion. If this is truly the case in Canada than I would say that this is an attack on freedom of speech, and must be abolished for freedoms sake. Anyone? I think it only pertains to Islam. As far as I know, Christianity is not protected in any way.....you can say anything to demean, or mock, or make fun of Christianity, and Christians. Edited March 26, 2016 by betsy Quote
The_Squid Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 I think it only pertains to Islam. As far as I know, Christianity is not protected in any way.....you can say anything to demean, or mock, or make fun of Christianity, and Christians. This sounds like persecution complex nonsense. Every religion is open to criticism and they can all criticized all the time. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 I've literally never heard anyone say one demeaning or mocking thing about Islam ever. It's only Christianity that gets that treatment. Quote
Guest Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 Canada and several US states still have blasphemy laws on the books. They seemed like relics for awhile but but, based on the crazy religious laws being passed by Republican states, they may start to become active again. Quote
msj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 I think it only pertains to Islam. As far as I know, Christianity is not protected in any way.....you can say anything to demean, or mock, or make fun of Christianity, and Christians. Section 296 of our criminal code: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-69.html#h-89 296 (1) Every one who publishes a blasphemous libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years. Marginal note:Question of fact (2) It is a question of fact whether or not any matter that is published is a blasphemous libel. Marginal note:Saving (3) No person shall be convicted of an offence under this section for expressing in good faith and in decent language, or attempting to establish by argument used in good faith and conveyed in decent language, an opinion on a religious subject. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
taxme Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Posted April 2, 2016 Section 296 of our criminal code: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-69.html#h-89 The Charter of Rights can be manipulated anyway the government or lawyers want too, to suit their purpose. If they want you bad enough, they will get you. They can make a mountain out of a mole hill. The game is rigged, folks. The COR protects minorities at the expense of the majority. #3 means nothing as far as I am concerned. Quote
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