bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 Now show me a picture of a state trooper shaking hands with an armed black man in the same manner they did with an armed white conservative rancher in Oregon. Herr 'ya go.....got any more "black people" questions from Canada? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I have no intention of repainting the goal lines. You don't seem to get that the goal lines get moved quite easily with things as simple as skin color. Quote
Wilber Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 The only "coercing" is on the part of the US Federal Government, which is directly in conflict with Article 1, Section 8, clause 17of the US Constitution: That's for the courts to decide, not a bunch of rubes with guns. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 That's for the courts to decide, not a bunch of rubes with guns. No, it's for Americans to decide...not Canadians peering across the border. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ReeferMadness Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I doubt ever. The Bundy's have stated Federal Law Enforcement has made it known to them they have no intention of entering the refuge. I'm not talking about Federal Law Enforcement. I'm talking about these guys Joe Oshaughnessy, with a group calling itself the North American Coalition of Constitutional Militias, said his organization and the Pacific Patriot Network were trying to provide a “buffer zone” between government officials and the occupation, meaning they could help diffuse any conflicts that might arise. “We’ve got this image with long guns – that is not what we want,” said Jon Pratt, a Utah resident who has been at the occupation since Friday. “These guys are a third party. They do not represent the Bundys … and if they’re coming to keep the peace, I would’ve left the guns behind.” What a farce. The Hammonds have disowned the Bundys and now the Bundys are disowning these guys. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 That's for the courts to decide, not a bunch of rubes with guns. They petitioned the courts........no response. And now, they are stating they have found additional evidence from within Government files at the refuge offices, including information they believe will secure the release of the Hammonds. If true, this could have a far more reaching impact then Snowden, fore you can guarantee, all other BLM holdings and leases in the Western States will be challenged, either in court or with additional protests...........over an area of land larger than Western Europe and worth billions, upon billions of dollars. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I'm not talking about Federal Law Enforcement. I'm talking about these guys What of them? What a farce. The Hammonds have disowned the Bundys and now the Bundys are disowning these guys. Of course they publicly disowned them, Lionel Hutz would have done as much for them on their way to a Federal Pen........again, from what the Bundy's say, they are still in contact with the Hammond family and have found evidence that they feel will secure their release from prison. Quote
Wilber Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 They petitioned the courts........no response. And now, they are stating they have found additional evidence from within Government files at the refuge offices, including information they believe will secure the release of the Hammonds. If true, this could have a far more reaching impact then Snowden, fore you can guarantee, all other BLM holdings and leases in the Western States will be challenged, either in court or with additional protests...........over an area of land larger than Western Europe and worth billions, upon billions of dollars. If the courts haven't responded it is because they don't feel their case has merit. That's the way the law works. The SC decides what cases it hears, not the plaintiffs. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 If the courts haven't responded it is because they don't feel their case has merit. That's the way the law works. The SC decides what cases it hears, not the plaintiffs. No it doesn't......I just cited the 1st Amendment for you. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 No it doesn't......I just cited the 1st Amendment for you. Correct....the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in land. That includes enumerated gun rights. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Correct....the U.S. Constitution is the highest law in land. That includes enumerated gun rights. Of course, and the Bundy's have every Right to have their case heard by a US (Federal) Court......and then if need be, an appellate court. Edited January 12, 2016 by Derek 2.0 Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I just hope they don't run out of Oreo's too soon. The whole thing is good for laughs on the 6 o'clock new as well as here on this forum. Quote
eyeball Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 I have no intention of repainting the goal lines.There's a goal line? Where? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Wilber Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 No it doesn't......I just cited the 1st Amendment for you. It does. The court is the final authority when it comes to interpreting the Constitution. Not a bunch of rubes with guns. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Wilber Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 Of course, and the Bundy's have every Right to have their case heard by a US (Federal) Court......and then if need be, an appellate court. Only if the court decides to hear their case. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 An interesting op-ed from Ron Paul, By 'interesting' did you mean 'another loony opinion'? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 Canadians, unlike Americans, don't have enshrined Rights to Property..... What the hell does that have to do with anything? It's not their property they're arguing over. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 Of course, and the Bundy's have every Right to have their case heard by a US (Federal) Court......and then if need be, an appellate court. By gosh you're right! I think they, loaded down with all their guns, and joined by you and Bush Cheney, should head straight for the US Supreme Court this very day! March right in and demand to be heard! Better yet, head straight for the White House! I'll buy some popcorn and wait for the news to come on. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 By gosh you're right! I think they, loaded down with all their guns, and joined by you and Bush Cheney, should head straight for the US Supreme Court this very day! March right in and demand to be heard! It is far easier to just march to the nearest gun store. Cash or charge ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 It does. The court is the final authority when it comes to interpreting the Constitution. Not a bunch of rubes with guns. You understand the United States has circuit courts, and that any and all Americans have a right to bring cases before them..... Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 Only if the court decides to hear their case. In the Supreme Court............you understand there are court systems between the Supreme Court and Judge Judy right? Including courts available to all Americans to exercise their 1st Amendment right. Quote
Wilber Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) You understand the United States has circuit courts, and that any and all Americans have a right to bring cases before them..... You have a right to bring cases before courts in Canada as well but they don't have to hear them if they feel you have no case. Courts aren't going to waste their time on issues they believe have already been settled. You have rule of law or anarchy, there is no in between. Edited January 12, 2016 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 should head straight for the US Supreme Court this very day! March right in and demand to be heard! You understand the Supreme Court, being the largest appellate court in the United States, requires already tried cases? Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 You have a right to bring cases before courts in Canada as well but they don't have to hear them if they feel you have no case. You have rule of law or anarchy, there is no in between. We're not talking about Canada, every American can bring a case before a US Court and receive a ruling by at least a Judge or a jury of his peers.......1st Amendment protects this right. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Posted January 12, 2016 In the Supreme Court............you understand there are court systems between the Supreme Court and Judge Judy right? Including courts available to all Americans to exercise their 1st Amendment right. Very true...it's not like Judge Judy. Curse American television for misinforming some Canadians. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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