The_Squid Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 Sorry, but the usual Canadian "ABX" approach to elections won't work here....American voters actually get a say in the primary/caucus process. Candidates have to compete...state by state. Enjoy the show ! So you've never heard of a brokered convention? I thought you... like... knew stuff. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) The GOP convention is not until July....it is not automatically "brokered". There will at least be a straight up first ballot for state delegates. "The great state of Florida, home to many Canadian snowbirds, casts X votes for...." Edited March 3, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
The_Squid Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 Anyone but Trump alive and well in the GOP. “The best chance for the Republican party to not have Trump be the candidate is having these guys now stay in this circular firing squad, let them all pick up delegates and then they can bet on what might happen if there’s a brokered convention,” Franklin Pierce University political science professor Frank Cohen said on Boston Herald Radio’s “Primary Matters” program. “I think that really is the most reasonable scenario for anyone besides Trump to take it, otherwise it’s his.” http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/03/professor_brokered_convention_only_shot_at_derailing_trump Quote
Topaz Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 Well, I did stated that Romney was going to get involve and sure enough, he going to make a speech about Trump. The GOP wants Trump gone and short of shooting him, the only choice is to discredit him like they have in the past with people they don't want. How low will they go? https://ca.news.yahoo.com/republicans-see-options-stopping-trump-none-good-ones-051253682.html Quote
cybercoma Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 I can't stand HRC, but to call her a 'closeted lesbian' with 'fangs' is really uncalled for. Frankly, it speaks more about you, Rue, than it does about her. Very harsh. And even if she was, why does she have to discuss her sex life publicly. Rue's disgusts that she's supposedly "closeted" but do you ever see him criticizing any other politicians for not telling us they're straight? This is possibly one of the stupidest criticisms I've ever seen here. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 Sorry, but the usual Canadian "ABX" approach to elections won't work here....American voters actually get a say in the primary/caucus process. Candidates have to compete...state by state. Enjoy the show !It's pretty silly to compare the US political process to ours since our institutions are entirely different. Don't let that get in the way of you interjecting Canada into another US politics discussion though. It's only slightly hypocritical of you, since you cry foul anytime the US comes up in Canadian politics. Quote
Big Guy Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Well, I did stated that Romney was going to get involve and sure enough, he going to make a speech about Trump. The GOP wants Trump gone and short of shooting him, the only choice is to discredit him like they have in the past with people they don't want. How low will they go? https://ca.news.yahoo.com/republicans-see-options-stopping-trump-none-good-ones-051253682.html I just saw Romney give that speech. I have never seen a former candidate for president savage a man who was running for president from his party. Romney called Trump a con artist, liar, adolescent and worse. I have never seen a speech that cutting, negative and truthful. He was implying that Trump was mentally deranged. It appears that the Republicans have decided an all out war. Romney suggested people vote for Rubio in Florida, Kasich in Ohio and Cruz in other states where Cruz is leading. I am just getting over the shock of this speech - a new experience for me It looks like the Republican Party is trying to kill that Frankenstein that they created making sure he loses the winner-take-all primaries leading to a brokered convention where the Party pick will be able to win. I wonder if Romney was nominated from the floor at the convention that he might win the nomination. If anyone interested has a chance to see that speech then I suggest you do so. It is really something worth hearing/seeing. A short video of the reaction of one of Canada's most respected political pundits can be found at: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/romney-brands-donald-trump-a-phoney-a-fraud-1.2802106 Edited March 3, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Argus Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) According to this analysis, Cruz may be more likely to win. I would rather see Trump win. He's a lot more sane honest and reasonable. Edited March 3, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Big Guy Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Romney Speech at: Romney Savages Trump Edited March 3, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
cybercoma Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 I would rather see Trump win. He's a lot more sane honest and reasonable.By advocating a war crime? Quote
TimG Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) By advocating a war crime?I think the comment was intended to suggest that no matter how bad Trump is - Cruz is worse. It is looking more and more like Hillary will win easily. Edited March 3, 2016 by TimG Quote
Exegesisme Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Posted March 3, 2016 GOP making a choice between Cruz and Trump may be on three considerations: 1, the leadership 2, the winning probability as VS Hillary 3, the winning probability as VS Michael Rubens Bloomberg (if he really drops in.) Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 I would rather see Trump win. He's a lot more sane honest and reasonable. Which is still setting the bar awfully low don't you think? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 It's pretty silly to compare the US political process to ours since our institutions are entirely different. Don't let that get in the way of you interjecting Canada into another US politics discussion though. It's only slightly hypocritical of you, since you cry foul anytime the US comes up in Canadian politics. But that's a very good reason to do it....when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Besides, Cruz is Canadian. I don't want any lame "Canadian-style" ABC strategic voting in 'Murica....see how that works ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) It looks like the Republican Party is trying to kill that Frankenstein that they createdThat would be the electorate that Trump is following.What I find most hilarious is how these boneheads seem to think it takes a billionaire to catch the billionaires that have been screwing them the hardest - the same billionaires they've been all to happy to vote for in the past and will just as likely vote for again. Edited March 3, 2016 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Exegesisme Posted March 3, 2016 Author Report Posted March 3, 2016 A real proposal for Cruz and Rubio. In the wake of Tuesday’s primary results, however, another and easier path to defeating Trump has arisen; it can be Plan A. It basically relies on the patriotism, good sense, and rational self-interest of two men: Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. The plan is simple: Each candidate publicly pledges to support for president whichever of them has the most delegates to the Republican convention. In return, the winner will make the other one his running mate.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432261/ted-cruz-marco-rubio Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 3, 2016 Report Posted March 3, 2016 But that's a very good reason to do it....when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Besides, Cruz is Canadian. I don't want any lame "Canadian-style" ABC strategic voting in 'Murica....see how that works ? Sorry, but Cruz is no more Canadian than you are, unless we're talking wishful thinking of course. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 4, 2016 Report Posted March 4, 2016 What a hoot watching Romney trash Trump. It will be interesting to see just how the fallout from that settles. I'm expecting the price op popcorn to skyrocket between now and November. Quote
Exegesisme Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) One of my feeling and sense: For the benefit of US and the world, the achievement of Obama needs Cruz to fellow, and Rubio as a useful helper. Edited March 5, 2016 by Exegesisme Quote
Exegesisme Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Posted March 5, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/05/politics/kansas-kentucky-louisiana-maine-nebraska-results-live-updates/index.html living updating information on super Saturday Quote
kimmy Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 One of my feeling and sense: For the benefit of US and the world, the achievement of Obama needs Cruz to fellow, and Rubio as a useful helper. I am confused. What achievement of Obama? Isn't Cruz on record as wanting to reverse pretty much everything Obama did in the past 7 years? Wouldn't that kind of make following Obama's "achievement" kind of like following an ice-sculpture with a flame-thrower? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Exegesisme Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Posted March 6, 2016 I am confused. What achievement of Obama? Isn't Cruz on record as wanting to reverse pretty much everything Obama did in the past 7 years? Wouldn't that kind of make following Obama's "achievement" kind of like following an ice-sculpture with a flame-thrower? You will see at the end of his mandate. I mean that Cruz has the same level of intelligence and morality of Obama, which is important for dealing the legacy of Obama. Quote
Big Guy Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 As the results continue to come in on this weekend, the more it appears that the Republican party (those power brokers that have been there for years) are starting to manipulate the process. Trump will win a bunch, Cruz will win a bunch, Rubio will win a small bunch, Kasich will win a small bunch and the decision will await the convention. The first vote will show Trump a little short of nomination. The second vote will see Trump slide Rubio and Kasich start to gain. It will end with a "compromise" candidate - Rubio or Kasich winning. That is assuming that a Paul Ryan or some other Republican Party savior is not nominated from the floor. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Exegesisme Posted March 6, 2016 Author Report Posted March 6, 2016 Cruz begin to show his whole strength, won super Saturday by delegates. Quote
kimmy Posted March 6, 2016 Report Posted March 6, 2016 Cruz won big in Kansas and won Maine by a smaller margin. Trump won Louisiana by a narrow margin and Tennessee by a healthy margin, so it looks like the delegate race doesn't change by much. Terrible day for Marco Rubio. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
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