eyeball Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 Well, that long form took all of 10 minutes. I can't believe the amount of whining people do over this. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jacee Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) People lie when it matters. And if it doesn't matter, they make up numbers - typically making them feel better.(Edited to quote correct post.)Most people are not prone to lying. Why put yourself at risk? Lying doesn't make normal people 'feel better'. Most people who are prone to lying suspect that everyone else does. . Edited May 10, 2016 by jacee Quote
msj Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 Most people who are prone to lying suspects that everyone else does. . I have no idea who is and who isn't prone to lying. Not my speciality and not something I'm particularly interested in. Maybe you should ask August who seems to think he/she knows. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
jacee Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) I have no idea who is and who isn't prone to lying. Not my speciality and not something I'm particularly interested in. Maybe you should ask August who seems to think he/she knows. Oops! Sorry msj. I quoted your post by accident.Correcting that now. . Edited May 10, 2016 by jacee Quote
cybercoma Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 That isn't exactly accurate either. The driver of a vehicle might have to prove that he's legally entitled to be driving the car by providing license and insurance, but even that is only under the context of a legitimate investigation of a highway traffic act offence, The passengers in that car would not have to identify themselves if they chose not to. The police do not have the right to just grab anyone they want and demand ID. Until they tell you there's been a rash of break ins and they're doing an investigative detention. Then you're under duress to provide information. Quote
Big Guy Posted May 10, 2016 Report Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Well, that long form took all of 10 minutes. I can't believe the amount of whining people do over this. I had accepted the fact that one is required to share certain information if you wanted to take advantage of being a member of our society. If I want to drive on public streets then I need a drivers licence, if I want a SIN then I have to give up the information required to get one. I complete municipal, provincial and federal tax forms to establish how much money I have to contribute to building infrastructure, protection of the law and fire departments and ... I am also one of those who gets flu shots every year, not necessarily to protect myself but to keep an epidemic from occurring. I believe that if you are prepared to accept all of the benefits of Canadian society then you have the obligation to do some things that you may not like but are asked of you by your government. Edited May 10, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
August1991 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) So... what you contend is that people ALWAYS lie... when it matters and when it doesn't matter.... If this is the case, why would anyone ask another question about anything ever again??? lol Did you actually mean to type that? I merely meant to say that people have their own version of the truth - and this version typically portrays them in a good light. (Example: How much do you weigh?) For a question that is irrelevant to a person, the answer is largely random. (Example: What is the population of Japan?) But for a question that signals identity, the answer goes well beyond truth: (Example: Are you poor?) or (Example: Do you want to answer a government census?) Edited May 11, 2016 by August1991 Quote
August1991 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) I had accepted the fact that one is required to share certain information if you wanted to take advantage of being a member of our society. If I want to drive on public streets then I need a drivers licence, if I want a SIN then I have to give up the information required to get one. I complete municipal, provincial and federal tax forms to establish how much money I have to contribute to building infrastructure, protection of the law and fire departments and ... I am also one of those who gets flu shots every year, not necessarily to protect myself but to keep an epidemic from occurring. I believe that if you are prepared to accept all of the benefits of Canadian society then you have the obligation to do some things that you may not like but are asked of you by your government. Big Guy = Big State. Big Brother knows best. ===== Civilised society? Agreed. I'm willing to pay the taxes that these idiots in Ottawa ask me/calculate that I must pay. But I'll be damned if I waste time filling out another form of stupid questions when everyone in Big Data knows that such info is largely false. Edited May 11, 2016 by August1991 Quote
cybercoma Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 I merely meant to say that people have their own version of the truth - and this version typically portrays them in a good light.(Example: How much do you weigh?)For a question that is irrelevant to a person, the answer is largely random.(Example: What is the population of Japan?)But for a question that signals identity, the answer goes well beyond truth:(Example: Are you poor?) or (Example: Do you want to answer a government census?)Good thing the census doesn't ask about your income then. Also good thing that there is such a thing as "refuse to answer" for a response. Quote
PIK Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 I found one in my yrd yesterday. I guess they threw it on the deck and the wind blew it off. I am going to jail. lol Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
BC_chick Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 What a relief that May 10th came and went. The duress was keeping me up at night. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
eyeball Posted May 11, 2016 Report Posted May 11, 2016 Well, even though I capitulated I did sneak in one rebellious dig when I answered Earthling to the question of my origins. ...knock...knock...knock... Oh oh. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted August 29, 2016 Report Posted August 29, 2016 Statistics Canada celebrates 'best census since 1666' Response rate for newly restored long-form census was 97.8%, the best ever recorded, agency reports Must have been all those law and order Canadians who just can't seem to put their rebelliousness first no matter how much they scream bloody murder. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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