PIK Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Really, I hope she steps down we do not need such fools in our government. Is this just plain stupidity or our education system is failing. And a school trustee at that. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/federalelection2015/ndp-candidate-defends-death-camp-related-penis-joke-%e2%80%98i-didn%e2%80%99t-know-what-auschwitz-was%e2%80%99/ar-AAeHtyz?ocid=mailsignoutmd Edited September 24, 2015 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
overthere Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 It is hard to imagine an adult not understanding the signifigance of 'Auschwitz'. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
PIK Posted September 24, 2015 Author Report Posted September 24, 2015 The NDP have a history of being anti -semitic party. So this really does not surprise me. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Black Dog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 The NDP have a history of being anti -semitic party. So this really does not surprise me. Cite required. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Anyway, I'm thinking the "I didn't know what Auschwitz was." is not actually true, but a really poor attempt at deflection. Quote
Evening Star Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Anyway, I'm thinking the "I didn't know what Auschwitz was." is not actually true, but a really poor attempt at deflection. Yeah, I'd be more willing to shrug it off if she said something like "I wrote that quickly while a little drunk and didn't notice the exact location, to be honest. My friends ribbed me for months afterwards." Quote
drummindiver Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Anyway, I'm thinking the "I didn't know what Auschwitz was." is not actually true, but a really poor attempt at deflection. Surely you're not suggesting she confabulated? Quote
Black Dog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Yeah, I'd be more willing to shrug it off if she said something like "I wrote that quickly while a little drunk and didn't notice the exact location, to be honest. My friends ribbed me for months afterwards." Yeah, "I wrote a dumb thing on social media almost a decade ago, which I apologize for. Now can we talk about something that actually matters?" Quote
Big Guy Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) In the near future, technology will be so advanced that almost anyone will be able to identify the real identity of posters on what these posters think is an "anonymous" bulletin board. In the future, all these posts will still be retreivable from somewhere. At that time, if any participants here choose to get into politics then their "past" or the past of any close relative will be screened. I believe that day will come a lot sooner than we anticipate. Already to-day, people are losing or being rejected for jobs by what they have posted in social media. What happens when identities previously considered anonymous will be readily available - and their previously posted statements revealed? Then those individuals will have to be accountable for what they posted. Personally, I am looking forward to that day. Are you? Edited September 24, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Bonam Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Normal people make inappropriate jokes or comments all the time. This one is honestly pretty tame. That said, such statements can definitely make someone unelectable. Quote
Smallc Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Normal people make inappropriate jokes or comments all the time. This one is honestly pretty tame. That said, such statements can definitely make someone unelectable. Isn't it crazy that we expect things from others that we don't expect from ourselves? Quote
overthere Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Who needs to make excuses or explanations for your own actions when you have all these people(see above) who will blow it off on your behalf? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Bonam Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Isn't it crazy that we expect things from others that we don't expect from ourselves? It's not really a matter of rational expectation. Rather, it's a matter of the political culture. Quote
Argus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) It's not really a matter of rational expectation. Rather, it's a matter of the political culture. Yes almost everyone who isn't preciously politically correct (and thus dumb as a post) have made all sorts of comments in their lives which would get the opinion makers fluttering in horror if we were politicians. Edited September 24, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Freddy Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Cite required. Cite required that he needs a cite. Quote
Bryan Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Cite required. Edited September 24, 2015 by Bryan Quote
Canada_First Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Libby Davies is clearly an antisemite. She's been to Gaza several times. Speaks badly of Israel and Jews often. Quote
marcus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Here is the so-called anti-semitic comment: She said the occupation started in 46, instead of 67 - OMG! ANTI-SEMITE! Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Bonam Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Here is the so-called anti-semitic comment: She said the occupation started in 46, instead of 67 - OMG! ANTI-SEMITE! Saying it started in 46 as opposed to 67 isn't just a slip up of the date. It is a clear statement that indicates the speaker believes ALL of Israel is on occupied territory and therefore illegitimate, as opposed to the more conventional view of those who criticize Israel that accept the legitimacy of Israel proper but object to its actions in Gaza and the West Bank. Edited September 24, 2015 by Bonam Quote
Evening Star Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Who needs to make excuses or explanations for your own actions when you have all these people(see above) who will blow it off on your behalf? The thing is, I don't think making a dumb tasteless joke to your friends years ago actually is that huge of a crime. Not knowing what Auschwitz is, on the other hand, does seem a little troubling in a school board trustee. Quote
Evening Star Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Saying it started in 46 as opposed to 67 isn't just a slip up of the date. It is a clear statement that indicates the speaker believes ALL of Israel is on occupied territory and therefore illegitimate, as opposed to the more conventional view of those who criticize Israel that accept the legitimacy of Israel proper but object to its actions in Gaza and the West Bank. It might be an anti-Israel or anti-Zionist comment but I don't think that makes it anti-Semitic. Quote
marcus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Saying it started in 46 as opposed to 67 isn't just a slip up of the date. It is a clear statement that indicates the speaker believes ALL of Israel is on occupied territory and therefore illegitimate, as opposed to the more conventional view of those who criticize Israel that accept the legitimacy of Israel proper but object to its actions in Gaza and the West Bank. She has repeatedly said that she accepts the two-state solution. Not only in the video where she is accused of being an anti-semite but elsewhere as well. The only reason the rabid dogs are after her is because she openly criticized Israel's illegal actions and she supports the BDS movement. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Argus Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) It might be an anti-Israel or anti-Zionist comment but I don't think that makes it anti-Semitic. Virtually all anti-Zionists are anti-Semites. I take it as a given that anyone who uses the term pejoratively is an anti-Semite. Edited September 24, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bonam Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 ...the rabid dogs... Thank you for your contribution. Quote
BC_chick Posted September 24, 2015 Report Posted September 24, 2015 Virtually all anti-Zionists are anti-Semites. I take it as a given that anyone who uses the term pejoratively is an anti-Semite. What a fantastic way to stifle any criticism! So you think people would've cared less had Israelis been non-Jewish European? Or Chinese? Or polka-dot? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
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