ReeferMadness Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 kraychik, please provide your evidence that Mr Milloy speaks on behalf of the LIberal Party of Canada. If you don't have any evidence, you could ask the moderators to terminate your thread so you can open one with a more honest title. The origin of this hysterical piece is the National Newswatch, which describes Mr Milloy as following: John Milloy is a former Ontario cabinet minister who served as MPP for Kitchener Centre from 2003 to 2014. Prior to that, he worked on Parliament Hill, including five years in the office of Prime Minister Jean Chrétien. He is currently the co-director of the Centre for Public Ethics... He was a former provincial cabinet minister so he couldn't even speak for the current Ontario LIberals, much less the LPC. Mr Milloy appears to be talking for nobody but Mr Milloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think what the messages says is also important and the half-truths that especially the PM has been saying out on the campaign trail. For ie. he was telling supporters out in BC, that the opposition parties voted against a certain item ... well yeah they voted against the Bill because of the crap that would hurt Canadians! ANY political information to Canadian any form should be 100% truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebound Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Agreed...I have long maintained that the state funded and controlled CBC is exactly that. It is a state broadcaster in every sense. It may be partially publicly funded, but it is not a "state broadcaster" in ANY sense. You complain yourself that CBC does not reflect the views of the current government in power, so how can you possibly call it a "state broadcaster"? In fact it does not reflect the political view of ANY party...it reports on them. It reflects Canada. ...and since 60-70% of Canadians are not Harperites, it stands to reason that 60-70% of the stories will not be about conservative issues. The CBC remains the one media outlet where ALL parties, including Harper, have been comfortable to use to push their message... It is the citizens' broadcaster, not the government's, which is precisely why Harper hates it. Like the Grey Cup, the CBC has been a UNIFYING force in this country, and Harper's efforts to eviscerate it.... like his attempts to eviscerate the Senate, Research & statistics, any number of Canadian institutions.... seem to be an attempt to create DIVISION.... division between Feds and provinces, divisions between the citizens and its government, etc... DIVISION gives him a better chance to govern, even though it is destructive to the bulk of the country's citizens. Any time in a country's history is a good time for co-operation vs division..... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I don't think it should be a criminal offense to donate money to a political party, but I believe that the amount should be severely limited so that the rich can't control the political process which would be anti-democratic. Uhm, it IS severely limited, and has been for quite some time. Welcome to Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 "More money from more grassroots salt of the earth Americans and you might not have seen two terms of Obama." It was the grassroots which got Obama elected. Do you live in a glass bubble or something? It's the grassroots that got Harper elected, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 kraychik, please provide your evidence that Mr Milloy speaks on behalf of the LIberal Party of Canada. If you don't have any evidence, you could ask the moderators to terminate your thread so you can open one with a more honest title. jebus! That's quite the leap... but then again, look who fabricated the thread title! Apparently, in the world of member 'kraychick', it is completely legitimate to state a former Ontario MPP is the Liberal Party of Canada! Bloody hell - even that rag breitbart wouldn't let him get away with that, using "former legislator" in the linked article headline. note to moderator/facilitator: please correct the thread title to reflect reality, not the agenda driven world of member 'kraychik'. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 There should be a ban on all political advertising outside of the writ period. The only exception should be the federal (or provincial) government's announcement of particular programs and initiatives that need attention. Even then it should be heavily regulated such that it is non-partisan and announced as an initiative specifically from the Government of Canada and none of this "Harper Government™" or "NDP Government" nonsense. The government needs the House to agree. Programs are come to in a multi-partisan way through voting in the House. The government bench does not control the purse. And that's why the programs should be advertised as government initiatives and not partisan ones. During the campaign period, all gloves are off and the parties can bombard us with as much garbage as they want, keeping within current guidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think that the parties should start developing more long form platforms to showcase their ideas. 30 seconds isn't enough time to do anything but a drive by insult and slogan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 There should be a ban on all political advertising outside of the writ period. I agree with you 100%, and I agree with Trudeau on his proposal for government advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I think that the parties should start developing more long form platforms to showcase their ideas. 30 seconds isn't enough time to do anything but a drive by insult and slogan It's annoying how our media cycle works in this way. I'm a meat and potatoes guy, and I need to get to the meat and potatoes of what each party wants to do in each area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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