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See up thread. Oil sands subsidies ... $100/month from every taxpayer.

I'm retired, but I employ a few people part time with house renos etc. :D

There are many useful people in society who don't employ others ... and among those who do, there are some really useless ones who bring a lot of misery to people.

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Link for the subsidy.

Good for you for employing some people to do renos. You yourseldf are helping people much better and much more efficiently than governent. Shouldnt you get some kind of relief for doing so?

People and organizations that employ others are far more useful to society than people that don't as they are helping others by providing jobs and a product/service that others want/need whereas someone who doesnt employ others just helps themselves.

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Jacee, that has to be one of your wildest claims ever. In this world running home with our tail between our legs will totally destroy our reputation. And who is pillaging Iraqi resourses. And name me the corporations that have moved into the area. And why are you against bring these people into the 21st century, where the women are brutalized. If you took the time to learn what was done in Afghanistan.......................

You should take the time to learn what's really going on PIK.

It has nothing to do with the women.

That's just what politicians feed soldiers and the public.

It is wars for profit.

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Link for the subsidy.

Good for you for employing some people to do renos. You yourseldf are helping people much better and much more efficiently than governent. Shouldnt you get some kind of relief for doing so?

I'll be finished long before that ever kicks in.

Harper will too. :D

People and organizations that employ others are far more useful to society than people that don't as they are helping others by providing jobs and a product/service that others want/need whereas someone who doesnt employ others just helps themselves.

Horse apples ... and a pathological way of evaluating peoples 'worth'.

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on guard for thee:

I read the same article, but what you fail to mention that it also said that the retrieving of said resources would not be cost effective....so my question to you is how much of these resources has been pulled out of the ground by the Canadian government.....or a Canadian company .....has any of it been pulled from the ground by anyone......

Could the survey been done to assist the country of Afghan...

How much of these resources went into the coffers of any coalition pockets......Jaccee made a very powerful statement, stating that our involve was corporate driven....and you seem to agree, so perhaps one of you can provide a source that would prove that theory.....

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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Theres no "corporate control".

:lol:

Do you really think people are that stupid?

Eta ... The Liberals and Conservative are both corporate controlled ... Bought and paid for.

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Yep, this is who we need running the country.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/linda-mcquaig-says-oilsands-may-have-to-be-left-in-the-ground-1.3183999

No comments allowed on that story, on the CBC, hmmm.

Right, or the NDP's Hans Marotte's support for the PLO and second Intifada ...........of course, the CPC has a highlight reel of Moonbat statements from members of the NDP

Tell us, guys, what would Canada have to do to meet its targets?

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on guard for thee:

I read the same article, but what you fail to mention that it also said that the retrieving of said resources would not be cost effective....so my question to you is how much of these resources has been pulled out of the ground by the Canadian government.....or a Canadian company .....has any of it been pulled from the ground by anyone......

Could the survey been done to assist the country of Afghan...

How much of these resources went into the coffers of any coalition pockets......Jaccee made a very powerful statement, stating that our involve was corporate driven....and you seem to agree, so perhaps one of you can provide a source that would prove that theory.....

Google uranium Afghanistan.

They'll let it lie until it becomes cost effective, and people 'forget' the connection.

I told you ... It was a Canadian soldier who was there who told me it was more about uranium than a pipeline.

Re Iraq's oil: The collusion and coverup was this:

Russian companies got the contracts ...

And subcontracted to Bush's Texas oil buddies. :/

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Jaccee:

More powerful statements , as I asked OGFT, can you name any Canadian corp, that has profited from these resource surveys, have they pulled any of these resources from the ground......infact lets open it up a little, OK a lot, can you name any corp form any nation that has made a profit from mining Afghan resources....please provide a source....and yes Afghanistan has Uranium deposits....along with over a thousand other valuable resources....

So what , your statement would make sense if you had proof that Canada or for that matter the US entered Afghan because of corp greed for resouces....and yet there was no pipe line no great minning adventures , no oil, infact not much of anything......

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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Jaccee:

More powerful statements , as I asked OGFT, can you name any Canadian corp, that has profited from these resource surveys, have they pulled any of these resources from the ground......infact lets open it up a little, OK a lot, can you name any corp form any nation that has made a profit from mining Afghan resources....please provide a source....and yes Afghanistan has Uranium deposits....along with over a thousand other valuable resources....

So what , your statement would make sense if you had proof that Canada or for that matter the US entered Afghan because of corp greed for resouces....and yet there was no pipe line no great minning adventures , no oil, infact not much of anything......

You are naive about this, army guy.

See my edit above.

It's all coverup and collusion.

It has little to do with country, just worldwide corporatism and the politicians they own.

75% of Canadian registered mining companies are not Canadian companies at all: They are multinationals that register in Canada because our regulations are lax.

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See up thread. Oil sands subsidies ... $100/month from every taxpayer. I'm retired, but I employ a few people part time with house renos etc. :D

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If you are In Ontario, I sure hope you are using licensed ppl, because the Ontario College of Trades has made it impossible to make a living at trades. And if you are not, you are breaking multiple laws.

Also, Jacee, I realize you are communist, or as far left as ossicle. please, however, refrain from calling those of us who do t share your views paid corporate shills or some of the other nonsense. Thanks.

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Google uranium Afghanistan.

They'll let it lie until it becomes cost effective, and people 'forget' the connection.

I told you ... It was a Canadian soldier who was there who told me it was more about uranium than a pipeline.

Re Iraq's oil: The collusion and coverup was this:

Russian companies got the contracts ...

And subcontracted to Bush's Texas oil buddies. :/

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Are you listening to yourself, they'll let it lie, and until people forget the connection .....sounds like something out of the x files......still no proof yet no source, just a theory....

And yet one would have to ask a few questions like how much did the Afghan conflict cost .....it is rumoured that the offical cost is estamated at 686 bil, and we all know accurate these are.....time est the cost at over 4 to 6 trillion for both Afghan and Iraq conflicts......

http://time.com/3651697/afghanistan-war-cost/

This would beg the question of why would a government over spend for these resources that it could buy on the open market for alot cheaper.....because that is not how these theories work......and now we are suppose to believe that they are just going to sit on it , after spending all that tax dollars hoping that nobody is going to find it on their own.....Jig is up the Afghan government is well aware of what resources it has, infact there are a couple of articles i found during my search for Uranium deposits in Afghanistan, that suggest that China is the front runner for these deposits....

US must be pissed, spending all that cash only to have it given to CHINA......I have another theory maybe the US will re enter into the conflict this time unstead of fighting terrorists.....this time they'll go in and steal what is theirs.....

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/nuclear-war-in-afghanistan

it seems your theory is coming undone....i guess you'll have to find another theory...

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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You are naive about this, army guy.

See my edit above.

It's all coverup and collusion.

It has little to do with country, just worldwide corporatism and the politicians they own.

75% of Canadian registered mining companies are not Canadian companies at all: They are multinationals that register in Canada because our regulations are lax.

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OK but i also said you could provide any corp that is taking these resources for profit that can be tied to any member of the coalition....and you call me Naive....if nobody is taking these resources, then there is no meat to your theory.....

and as i just explained to you why spend 4 to 6 times more for a resource that could be purchased for alot less on the open market......your talking about total control over one of the most powerful nations on earth......that is a major leap on the theory scale....and we are to put 2 and 2 together because of a few posts on MLF, still no sources, no proof......

And i did hear about the uranium rumour while we were over there, and we operated in the hemland district all the time not once did we observe any mining operations....not saying there were none, just saying we heard alot of rumours over there pipe lines , huge buried mineral deposits and yet it all still remains under ground.....

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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OK but i also said you could provide any corp that is taking these resources for profit that can be tied to any member of the coalition....and you call me Naive....if nobody is taking these resources, then there is no meat to your theory.....

and as i just explained to you why spend 4 to 6 times more for a resource that could be purchased for alot less on the open market......your talking about total control over one of the most powerful nations on earth......that is a major leap on the theory scale....and we are to put 2 and 2 together because of a few posts on MLF, still no sources, no proof......

And i did hear about the uranium rumour while we were over there, and we operated in the hemland district all the time not once did we observe any mining operations....not saying there were none, just saying we heard alot of rumours over there pipe lines , huge buried mineral deposits and yet it all still remains under ground.....

I guess the trail isn't cold enough yet ... And world prices aren't hot enough.

It isn't about governments, at least not ours. We don't need that much uranium. The US may.

It's about corporations and profits.

It isn't about Canadian companies.

It's about multinationals.

.....sounds like something out of the x files..

You're starting to get the picture.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Read that article you linked again.

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I guess the trail isn't cold enough yet ... And world prices aren't hot enough.

It isn't about governments.

It's about corporations and profits.

It isn't about Canadian companies.

It's about multinationals.

.....sounds like something out of the x files..

You're starting to get the picture.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

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But they were hot enough to convince a major super power to take action spending trillions of dollars in the process to wait and watch their investment go up in smoke......not hot enough to convince a major super power to remain in Afghanistan to secure the allege deposits....does that not sound crazy to you.....does that sound like good business practice to you.....

SO i will bend to your will ........ name any multi national company that has convinced the US government to enter into conflict with Afghanistan for the sole purpose of retrieving resources with trillions.....maybe a source please....

We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.

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But they were hot enough to convince a major super power to take action spending trillions of dollars in the process to wait and watch their investment go up in smoke......not hot enough to convince a major super power to remain in Afghanistan to secure the allege deposits....does that not sound crazy to you.....does that sound like good business practice to you.....

SO i will bend to your will ........ name any multi national company that has convinced the US government to enter into conflict with Afghanistan for the sole purpose of retrieving resources with trillions.....maybe a source please....

Army guy, they don't want us to figure out that that's why they spent our money sending soldiers to Afghanistan.

It's a secret.

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