bleeding heart Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) (Just to clarify, there is meant to be a comma in the title after "Stormfront.") I enjoyed the rather crude, out -of-context, and ellipses-laden "who's who" bit, comparing Stormfront with the so-called "sjws"; but I note that the joke falls a little flat, seeing that our own mlw conservatives are indistinguishable from these folks...and without the promiscuous misuse of context and elliptical shenanigans. I should add that I don't actually feel that some shared ideology ideas--even when they're so precisely the same--genuinely undermines the conservatives' arguments, in and of themselves. However, those who cite the "is it Stormfront or is it 'sjws'--approvingly (ie. "I couldn't tell the difference!")--do consider the clear similarities to be telling, indeed. (I have cut out the racist remarks...but nothing is manipulated. Words are what they are, in context. Hence the links.) So let's play the 2.0 version...who said what about liberals/lefties, muslims, immigrants, feminists, transgenderism ....oh! and of course, "sjws"! I'll give you hint: all of these are from Stormfront; so don't let their... familiarity...confuse you: "I cannot wrap my mind around the insanity of these SJWs. They are purely emotionally driven and cannot for a moment even conceive of reason.". https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1102112/ "Radical anarchists and Marxistic SJWs. They are scum and would gladly see them all arrested." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1083475-3/ "Yep. And we'll be hearing it from every leftard, SJWs, commie, and lowlife about how big bad whitey victimizes everyone. Ad nausium" https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1108191-7/ "Liberals always support anyone or anything they perceive to be the underdog. It's a mindless, uninformed, knee-jerk reaction they exhibit consistently" https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1107894/ "So i would tend to blame the liberals more than any other group,they even have their footsoldiers, antifa, afa,and sharp,(or whatever leftist jackboot group is in your country) to enforce what they think public opinion should be.. The funny thing is; if they got their socialist/leftist/commie paradise,we would be living like the north koreans or venezuelans,on food rations while our political elite live it big... That's socialism in a nutshell." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1100778/ "The left provides women with pseudo equality. The left will tell women they are being treating unfairly and are not getting paid as much as men in the work place. The left does no research whatsoever as to why women get paid less. It is all emotional and once again pseudo science on their part." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1108735/ "Think about it. From the time you enter school you're being programed to believe Liberal ideology. Its a fact most teachers are Liberals, especially as you move up in grades, and especially in College. Then you come home from school and sit in front of the TV and are programmed even more by the Liberal media." "Liberals are all about killing unborn babies by the thousands daily, but executing a condemned murderer on death row would be 'inhumane' to them. ........................................ Christianity, the pro-life movement, victims of crime support groups, traditional conservatism, any groups that promote public morals, law and order, sane economic practices, traditional roles in society, are opposed to the insanity liberalism has become." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1103778/ "What does this all mean for regular people, such as the Times’ readers? Beneath all of the postmodern philosophical rhetoric, it’s not easy to tell, but much like the litany of recent academics hurrying to comment on “white privilege,” Caputo takes time to stick his finger in the eyes of the “Christian right” and, of all things, freedom — as if those two are the major arbiters behind all the woes America faces." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1109100/ "Western civilization has been under such a long-term assault and "New World Order" deconstruction of meaning that they would attach "political" to Islam to make it dialectical and more "EU". Islam is religious and religiously fanatical and doesn't believe in dialectics but their own religious supremacy." . https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1109560/ "I'm afraid that Islam, as pathetic as it is, will win by default if things don't change. What does the West have to offer right now? feminism, communism, industrialism, mcmansions?" https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t999337-12/ "Connecting the dots of liberal (indoctrinated, politically correct, pseudo-Marxists that don't fully comprehend logic or comprehensive history) logic: -Guns should be heavily regulated or banned to prevent gun violence. Police or military are the only ones that really need guns. -White police officers and the racist judicial system are disproportionately targeting and killing black people. -All White people, regardless of ideology, are beneficiaries of "White Privilege". -Though it is true that blacks are disproportionately involved in crime, the source of the problem is in income levels and "institutionalized racism". -The solution for poverty is to have the government provide more opportunities and basic services to provide a "safety net" for disadvantaged individuals. Taxation can fund these services, especially once we get the rich to "pay their fair share"." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1109673/ "To address males with female pronouns or females with male pronouns is to contribute to our culture’s confusion about sexuality and the nature of the human person, which is literally leaving casualties in its wake. No amount of surgical mutilation of body parts, effeminate behaviors, or artificial female appearances can make a man a woman." https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1098759/ Edited July 15, 2015 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Have you tried the test of SJW or Stormfronter? I provided a link to it in this post: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24441-bbc-world-service-gets-trolled-by-fake-sjw/?p=1048815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I had thought the connection between your post and this one was clear. Some key differences: mine is word for word...no useful omissions or cherry- picks---conservative values, baby! Oh...and also, I'm merely answering a weak absurdum with a stronger one. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 ... comparing Stormfront with the so-called "sjws"; but I note that the joke falls a little flat, seeing that our own mlw conservatives are indistinguishable from these folks... mlw conservatives indistinguishable from Stormfront... or from "sjws"? now we know where those flogging SJW around here get all their material from! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 I wouldn 't have made much of the comparison --but the anti-"SJW" warriors do. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Are you trying to argue the following?:person X of set of people Y believes Z. person A of set of people B believes Z. Therefore, person X is in set of people B. Because that doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Are you trying to argue the following?: person X of set of people Y believes Z. person A of set of people B believes Z. Therefore, person X is in set of people B. Because that doesn't make sense. some wicks are slicks and some slicks are snicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) no, but that approaches the point. It's an elementary absurdum, exposing the paucity of logic in the " test" at which it is directed. So you might ask yourself your own question, regarding "sjws." Edited July 15, 2015 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 moderator? This is a stupid, pointless topic. Please delete. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 moderator? This is a stupid, pointless topic. Please delete. Agreed, and I wouldn't click on any stormfront links at all. This is nothing but a not too subtle attempt to link conservatives to stormfront. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Ok...one more time: there is another post in which "sjws" are compared to Stormfront posters via a silly little "test ." I was responding directly to this post; but with a crucial difference: unlike the poster to whom I was responding, I don' t think that such exercises tells us anything meaningful about conservatives (or "sjws"). If one thinks "sjws" to be akin to Stormfront idiots, then plainly conservatives fit the bill as well... as I demonstrated; but I don't consider conservatives to be like the SF idiots. ...and all this has been explicit all along...for those able to comprehend a (spoonfed) absurdum. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Sorry, BH, but can you link to the other thread you mentioned here ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Sure: 4th post http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/24441-bbc-world-service-gets-trolled-by-fake-sjw/ Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The ball is in your court, e^pi*i -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 So my "junior stormfront" description of this website was accurate after all, hmm? Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) If one thinks "sjws" to be akin to Stormfront idiots, then plainly conservatives fit the bill as well. Stormfronters and conservatives share many beliefs. Yes. Your average stormfronter probably believes the Earth orbits the Sun. Does that mean we are akin to stormfronters if we believe the Earth orbits the Sun? No. Anyway, I'm not a conservative despite how much many people in this thread wish I were. but I don't consider conservatives to be like the SF idiots. And I don't consider SJW to be like stormfronters. They are quite different. there is another post in which "sjws" are compared to Stormfront posters via a silly little "test ." Okay, you really miss the point of the comparison in the other thread. I wasn't saying SJW and stormfronters share a common set of beliefs therefore they are very comparable. I was demonstrating that the level of bigotry of SJWs and stormfronters is comparable in many cases. If you take a SJW or stormfronter sentence and leave a few words blank (such as a race or sex) then in many cases it becomes indistinguishable from a sentence from the other group. For example: "We should round up all *insert group of people here* and cull half their population in order to make the world safer for *insert other group of people here*" Many of the stormfronter comments in the first post are relatively benign and most of them deal with being critical of SJWs or progressivism. That is quite different. Edited July 16, 2015 by -1=e^ipi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I could have concocted a cherry-picked test to "prove" how alike in bigotry are stormfronters and conservatives--or stormfronters and hairdressers, tapirs, or poets. I think you must know this. I was being purposefully gentle on this score--not least because I consider the test dishonest, as such easy ideologically-motivated attacks usually are. Virtually my entire point. Surely you can imagine the ease with which I could find ugly bigotry--in any political category--for the sake of playing "gotcha!" Edited July 16, 2015 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Okay, you really miss the point of the comparison in the other thread. I wasn't saying SJW and stormfronters share a common set of beliefs therefore they are very comparable. I was demonstrating that the level of bigotry of SJWs and stormfronters is comparable in many cases. If you take a SJW or stormfronter sentence and leave a few words blank (such as a race or sex) then in many cases it becomes indistinguishable from a sentence from the other group. For example: "We should round up all *insert group of people here* and cull half their population in order to make the world safer for *insert other group of people here*" Cool, let's try this: "We should round up all *members of ISIS* and cull half their population in order to make the world safer for *everyone else*" Curses! Bigotry! Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 So my "junior stormfront" description of this website was accurate after all, hmm? I know this is old, but, didn't you call me that? It may be a correct term, but it's certainly not an accurate depiction of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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