Canada_First Posted June 14, 2015 Report Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) http://i-supportisrael.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/watch-christian-talking-with-muslim-in.html https://youtu.be/3smmektRcEY I find this video disturbing. This is a group of Muslims in Toronto saying that they don't care about Canadian Laws. A girl in a woman after puberty even if 9 or 10 years old. Saying it's ok to have sex with them at this age. Stating that striking down enemies of Islam is permitted. Hitting and killing people is ok if they insult Mohammed. Stating that Sharia is the only law that matters basically. Insulting Islam is reason to use violence against those who insulted Islam. What conclusions should everyday Canadians draw from this? This guy is stating that this is will of Islam. So do all or even most or even a large percentage of Muslims feel this way? I find the video disturbing. What are your thoughts guys? Does it bother you that people in Canada feel this way? Edited June 14, 2015 by Canada_First Quote
Canada_First Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Posted June 15, 2015 1 person? Jacee, can you please add more than 2 words so we can have a discussion? I'm interested in speaking with people about this Muslim. As he is speaking about things which are in the Koran directly written. So I think it transfers to all Muslims. Does it not? It's in the holy book of Muslims. Quote
kimmy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 There's more than one Muslim who believe these things, jacee. An English documentary called "Undercover Mosque" discovered that such sentiment is actually not uncommon among British Muslims; investigative reporting in Canada has found similar views being expressed. One problem we have seen several times is that the imams at many mosques aren't enlightened westerners, they're dumb-asses imported straight from Saudi Arabia, with dumb-ass Saudi Arabian views. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
-1=e^ipi Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 So do all or even most or even a large percentage of Muslims feel this way? The person you describe sounds like a hardcore Wahhabist. Do Wahhabists make up the majority of Muslims worldwide? No. Do Wahhabists make up the majority of Saudi Arabia, ISIS or Al Queda? Yes. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 I seized on the word 'preach', thinking these things were being taught. It seems, though, that these are individuals with regressive attitudes. One approach, not a perfect one, involves creating national groups that provide some level of authority and guidance, without having any actual religious significance. The ostensible goal would be to create a body to facilitate integration into Canadian society. It's a logical step, but there will always be differences between Islam, even mainstream Islam, and mainstream Canada. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 I seized on the word 'preach', thinking these things were being taught. It seems, though, that these are individuals with regressive attitudes. Still, nothing he said is illegal, right ? Barring "hate speech", his point of view is protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, no ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 People are free to think stupid things. We have a way to deal with this... the criminal code. If this guy screws a 9 year old girl hes going to jail. If he assaults someone hes gonna get charged. If he "strikes down" anybody at all, he will go to prison. And if he directly encourages or incites other people to do any of these things he can go to prison for that too. Thats all thats required. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Canada_First Posted June 15, 2015 Author Report Posted June 15, 2015 http://i-supportisrael.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/scary-watch-this-is-not-saudi-arabia.html?m=1 Here is another from Spain. A town in Spain is almost 40% Muslim, soon they will form a political Party and vote in a Muslim to Power then will force all residents to wear headscarves. Is that what will happen here in Canada too? It says that a poll taken shows that Muslims don't vew themselves as Spanish but as Muslims only. That is troubling. I'm sure the same could be said for Canada as well and our Muslims. Why are we allowing the mass immigration of Muslims to Canada? What is our leaders motivation for doing this? The Muslim Birthrate is double that of the western birthrate. This is troubling to me indeed and it should be to anyone who values freedom. Muslims kill LGBT people in Islamic countries where the Muslims come here from. It's safe to assume that they don't abandon all their beliefs once touching Canadian soil. What are these IMAM's teaching the Muslims in Canada? Are they telling them to assimilate or are they encouraging them to remain separate? I think these are valid questions to be asking. Since once they're here they cannot really be kicked out like they did in Spain in the 1400's. Well I guess we could but we won't. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 http://i-supportisrael.blogspot.co.il/2015/06/scary-watch-this-is-not-saudi-arabia.html?m=1 Here is another from Spain. A town in Spain is almost 40% Muslim, soon they will form a political Party and vote in a Muslim to Power then will force all residents to wear headscarves. That's ridiculous, plain and simple. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 Still, nothing he said is illegal, right ? Barring "hate speech", his point of view is protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, no ? Certainly true. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Freddy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) People are free to think stupid things. We have a way to deal with this... the criminal code. If this guy screws a 9 year old girl hes going to jail. If he assaults someone hes gonna get charged. If he "strikes down" anybody at all, he will go to prison. And if he directly encourages or incites other people to do any of these things he can go to prison for that too. Thats all thats required. If he believes it's ok to do it, he will do it, and search a way to accomplish not getting caught. Our legal system is not a absolute, in catching 100% of all crime. Your logic is flawed. Let's not ignore thousands of years of being at war with these people. Do you think we were at war with them for absolutely no reason? When someone says they aren't compatible with our way of thinking, He's basically explaining , The reason we have been at war with them for thousands of years. Meanwhile some little 9 year old girl is being molested . You're logic is its ok because we might eventually catch and punish him? /face palm Edited June 15, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 That's ridiculous, plain and simple. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-13038095 Europe goes farther than Canada in this regard: Though there are no plans for a national ban in Spain, the city of Barcelona announced a ban on full Islamic face-veils in some public spaces such as municipal offices, public markets and libraries. At least two smaller towns in Catalonia, the north-eastern region that includes Barcelona, have also imposed bans. If we can define what 'soon' means, then we can check back in a few months to see if the 'mandatory' headscarves law came in. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Freddy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-13038095Europe goes farther than Canada in this regard: If we can define what 'soon' means, then we can check back in a few months to see if the 'mandatory' headscarves law came in. It will be like that for us one day. As westerners have no children and they continue to moleste 9 year olds, their population will grow and ours will shrink.It's just a matter of time. Europe is maybe 3 generations ahead of us? Edited June 15, 2015 by Freddy Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 It will be like that for us one day. As westerners have no children and they continue to moleste 9 year olds, their population will grow and ours will shrink. It's just a matter of time. Europe is maybe 3 generations ahead of us? Walk around a mall in Toronto and you'll see lots of Pakistani girls in jeans and jewelry. I worked with one who had a tattoo. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 Still, nothing he said is illegal, right ? Barring "hate speech", his point of view is protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, no ? Having sex with 9 year olds and "striking down" infidels are both very much illegal in Canada. Quote
Freddy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 Walk around a mall in Toronto and you'll see lots of Pakistani girls in jeans and jewelry. I worked with one who had a tattoo. Our only hope is cultural genocide? Quote
H10 Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 I don't believe in it, but have no problem with it. Let the muslims live how they want in their own communities amongst their own muslim kind. That is what a multicultural mosaic is all about. If you are intolerant too bad. Lots of white europeans say things I don't like, but doesn't mean I can do anything. I don't like how the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi talks but what can I do about, nothing. I understand this is white culture and how most whites behave in general when there are no colored folks around. Same goes for radical muslims. Quote
Freddy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) I don't believe in it, but have no problem with it. Let the muslims live how they want in their own communities amongst their own muslim kind. That is what a multicultural mosaic is all about. If you are intolerant too bad. Lots of white europeans say things I don't like, but doesn't mean I can do anything. I don't like how the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi talks but what can I do about, nothing. I understand this is white culture and how most whites behave in general when there are no colored folks around. Same goes for radical muslims.The one flaw in your argument I can see is the KKK isn't looking to actively kill me. The Muslim Brotherhood is. As much as the two share similarities. The end results are different.Why your chooseing to ignore that important fact based on a similarity but that doesn't have the same result is completely beyond me. Edited June 15, 2015 by Freddy Quote
AngusThermopyle Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 People are free to think stupid things. We have a way to deal with this... the criminal code. If this guy screws a 9 year old girl hes going to jail. If he assaults someone hes gonna get charged. If he "strikes down" anybody at all, he will go to prison. And if he directly encourages or incites other people to do any of these things he can go to prison for that too. Thats all thats required. Wow! what a stupid line of reasoning. So in your world if this guy screws a nine year old or kills someone its all good because then the law will deal with it? How about keeping this kind of scum out in the first place thus averting little girls being molested or people being killed? Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
AngusThermopyle Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 Walk around a mall in Toronto and you'll see lots of Pakistani girls in jeans and jewelry. I worked with one who had a tattoo. So your point is? You might remember the two Afghani girls who protested remembrance day and stood in solidarity with their Taliban brothers wore tight jeans and sweaters with high fashion boots, so what? A tattoo, wow! That changes everything! Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 Our only hope is cultural genocide? How did you get that from my post ? Pakistani girls in jeans is cultural genocide ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 So your point is? You might remember the two Afghani girls who protested remembrance day and stood in solidarity with their Taliban brothers wore tight jeans and sweaters with high fashion boots, so what? A tattoo, wow! That changes everything! It's as valid as scaremongering, individual statements, or anecdotes and observations on the other side of the question. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Freddy Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 How did you get that from my post ? Pakistani girls in jeans is cultural genocide ?. She could be shot in Pakistan for wearing some version's of that dress style. Your post seems to point out that assimilation is happening and it's welcomed. Quote
Argus Posted June 15, 2015 Report Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) The person you describe sounds like a hardcore Wahhabist. Do Wahhabists make up the majority of Muslims worldwide? No. Do Wahhabists make up the majority of Saudi Arabia, ISIS or Al Queda? Yes. The plain and simple fact is that virtually all terrorism and extremism in the Muslim world today can be laid at the doorstep of the Saudi royal family. They've spent tens of billions of dollars funding schools, cultural centers and mosques around the world, and readily supplying them with imams whose salaries they even offer to pay, in order to spread their own narrow, intolerant and extremist view of Islam. There is a reason why Saudi citizens, in a poll, speak approvingly of ISIS. That is because their views of Islam are largely just as intolerant and extreme, because those are the views they have been raised on. And yes, Saudi Arabia has funded mosques and Islamic centres in Canada, and supplied people to staff them. They don't do this unless those institutions will be sympathetic to their extremist world view. Edited June 15, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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