White racial violence problem?

[H10]

Your welcome. I always get around to it, My position on most subjects is so odd most of the time, It takes a lot of explaining

I can't say its the best or most complete, but at least you gave some answer to the original topic. Because they can. The rest are just beating around the bush or trying to throw out red herrings.

[Moonlight Graham]

I've already provided the sources which demonstrate whites have by far and away the highest crime rates of violence globally, internationally and domestically.

That's not true at all, at least not globally. "White countries" are some of the safest and least violent in the world. Latin American and African countries have far, far higher violent crime rates than Canada or any white-majority countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[Michael Hardner]

That's not true at all, at least not globally. "White countries" are some of the safest and least violent in the world. Latin American and African countries have far, far higher violent crime rates than Canada or any white-majority countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/04/most-dangerous-countries-lifestyle-travel_dangerous_countries_slide_16.html

Forbes rated Somalia the most violent.

[Freddy]

I can't say its the best or most complete, but at least you gave some answer to the original topic. Because they can. The rest are just beating around the bush or trying to throw out red herrings.

The majority of white folks that can't get away with their crimes are abiding by the law.

I J-walk almost every day. But that's because I don't think I'll get caught.

I'm always going 12 over the limit on the highway. I even don't fully stop at intersections sometimes.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Freddy

[H10]

That's not true at all, at least not globally. "White countries" are some of the safest and least violent in the world. Latin American and African countries have far, far higher violent crime rates than Canada or any white-majority countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Yes it is true. Didn't your teacher tell you why wikipedia is not a valid source, anyone can edit it. And since when is the homicide rate the measure of total crime?

In the top 5, every single country with the most crime is white majority.

In the top 10 it rises to 7 of 10 most crimes are in white countries. In the top 30, there are only 2 african countries, 24 white majority countries, and 4 asian countries. Whites are by far and away the most violent according to statistics.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes

When it comes to criminal assaults, white countries dominate the list. In the top 30, all but 7 are white countries for assault. And they form 10 of the top 12 most violent countries for general assault.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Assault-rate

White countries form 18 of the top 20 when it comes to robbery

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Robberies

White countries are 16 of 20 of ones most likely to be kidnapped in

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Kidnappings

White have the highest rates of drug use 19 of 20 of the highest users are white nations

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Drugs/Lifetime-cannabis-use

Whites form 16 of 20 countries with highest opium usage

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Drugs/Opiates-use

In the top 30 white countries form 27 of the highest rate rape, and the highest rapes are all in white countries by totals

https://zookeepersblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/total-number-of-rapes-by-country.jpg

Do you understand that a tiny country like uk or france has far more rape then countries with 2-10 times its population like China or Nigeria? In fact, the fact that UK has near equal rape than india when india has more than 10 times the people show that uk has a serious rape culture issue

http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/04/most-dangerous-countries-lifestyle-travel_dangerous_countries_slide_16.html

Forbes rated Somalia the most violent.

This list is by no means scientific. They are rating them the most violent based off subjective evaluations, rather than looking at any actual statistics. They are saying "pirates" are "violence" but many countries engage in piracy and engage in theft but using their local police forces and army.

By their logic, it is piracy when Canadian coast guard stops spanish vessels from stealing our fish. They are confusing government policy with crime. However if you want to measure crime this way, then America and Britain would be number because 1 million dead in Iraq, 300,000 dead in afghanistan, 100,000 dead in libya, if you are going to calls these "Crimes" then ....

Somalia is safe for Somalians. Its unsafe for foreign invaders who'd like to steal their fish and resources and cross Somalia's maritime border without paying the locally imposed fees.

[Moonlight Graham]

And since when is the homicide rate the measure of total crime?

I thought we were talking about violence. Homicide rate would be one good indicator of violence. Since when did crime rate have anything to do with your discussion?

As for your crime stats, your website notes this: "DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence."

Do you understand that a tiny country like uk or france has far more rape then countries with 2-10 times its population like China or Nigeria? In fact, the fact that UK has near equal rape than india when india has more than 10 times the people show that uk has a serious rape culture issue

If you think the UK or France has more rapes per capita than a violent sub-saharan hellhole like Nigeria, home of Boko Haram kidnapping & raping women/girls en masse, you need to find better statistics.

[Moonlight Graham]

This list is by no means scientific. They are rating them the most violent based off subjective evaluations, rather than looking at any actual statistics.

How do you collect violent crime statistics in country that barely enforced any laws, has a weak government, formerly no central government, and therefore very little law and order whatsoever?

Somalia is safe for Somalians.

Stats please. Oh wait, there are none.

[cybercoma]

That's not true at all, at least not globally. "White countries" are some of the safest and least violent in the world. Latin American and African countries have far, far higher violent crime rates than Canada or any white-majority countries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Again. Why!? You people need to take that extra step and consider WHY this is the case.

[Argus]

If you think the UK or France has more rapes per capita than a violent sub-saharan hellhole like Nigeria, home of Boko Haram kidnapping & raping women/girls en masse, you need to find better statistics.

Not to mention that the majority of violent crime in France and the UK, as in the US and Canada, are committed by non-whites.

US

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/murder-suspect-daron-wint-threatened-kill-family-article-1.2231453

CANADA

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/yosef-gopaul-in-court-over-slaying-of-b-c-hockey-mom-julie-paskall-1.2654507

UK

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/

FRANCE

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/french-city-with-40-muslim-population-is-the-most-dangerous-city-in-europe/

Edited May 22, 2015 by Argus

[Argus]

Somalia is safe for Somalians. Its unsafe for foreign invaders who'd like to steal their fish and resources and cross Somalia's maritime border without paying the locally imposed fees.

Ahh, so those aren't really Somali pirates at all! They're just patriots defending Somalia's maritime border!

Edited May 22, 2015 by Argus

[Moonlight Graham]

Again. Why!? You people need to take that extra step and consider WHY this is the case.

Because we're richer & more economically developed, we have far more stable and inclusive governments, we have rule of law, people are far less oppressed etc. In short, white western countries (and a small handful of east Asian countries) are more civilized, and they maintain their dominance.

Edited May 22, 2015 by Moonlight Graham

[Je suis Omar]

Because we're richer & more economically developed,

Having stolen the wealth from these others so they can't reach our exalted status.

we have far more stable and inclusive governments,

Where do you think we all would be had we had the terrorist nation, USA, ripping apart fledgling governments?

we have rule of law,

Pardon? Every USA president post WWII is a war criminal by Nuremberg standards.

people are far less oppressed .

What do you think a Native American or First Nations person would think of your assessment?

[bush_cheney2004]

Pardon? Every USA president post WWII is a war criminal by Nuremberg standards.

No...all "USA presidents"....try to be consistent.

[H10]

I thought we were talking about violence. Homicide rate would be one good indicator of violence. Since when did crime rate have anything to do with your discussion?

As for your crime stats, your website notes this: "DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence."

If you think the UK or France has more rapes per capita than a violent sub-saharan hellhole like Nigeria, home of Boko Haram kidnapping & raping women/girls en masse, you need to find better statistics.

Yes we are talking about violence. Homicide is just a very small aspect of total violence. Most violence is not homicide. How many people you know been robbed, raped, beaten, etc vs murdered. The other issue is homicide is very subjective, the figures cannot even be cross compared according to the people who collect that data. For instance, in the USA they don't count police murdering of civilians which numbers in the low hundreds as homicides, they also take out all the "stand your ground", "self defense" and "justified homicides" and ones where the wife bashes in the husbands brain when he is sleeping from "battered woman syndrome". Do you understand that other countries don't let you pull that kind of garbage.

Uk and France have far more rapers than Africa because when people rape in africa they give them death sentences or if they are rebels the military hunts them down and blows their heads off. Whereas in France and UK, if you rape, you can hire a fancy attorney and usually he can slick talk the way out. And the report of rape is very low in the UK, 95% don't report, and only 10% are found guilty after being charged. Africa is far safer than UK or France. You ignore that France. you are far more likely to be kidnapped in france or canada than in Nigeria. Boko Haram is one rare exception, but dozens of women are kidnapped daily in countries like canada and france where the rate of kidnapping is 13 of 15 highest kidnapping white nations.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Kidnappings

"The highest rate of child abduction and kidnap was in Northern Ireland, "

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2963610/Child-kidnapping-cases-increasing.html#ixzz3auwsIRlk

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Why are whites so violent? Answer the original question, stop denying it.

[H10]

How do you collect violent crime statistics in country that barely enforced any laws, has a weak government, formerly no central government, and therefore very little law and order whatsoever?

Stats please. Oh wait, there are none.

Prove they don't enforce laws. And Western nations selectively enforce laws as well all kinds of ism and chism. Religious bias, corruption, cronyism, capitalism, communism, bribery, incompetence, toadyism, kowtowing, boot licking, pedophilism, homosexualism, genderism, racism, sexism, favortism. Western nations are charged with high forms of corruption that have them duck and avoid charging all kinds of criminals. In fact when I was living in Norway they were just changing their attitude towards corruption. It was assumed until around 2010, when several high profile cases of corruption were brough tto light, that Norway was not corrupt. But it was simply just never looked into, the cops didn't enforce the corruption laws. No one was overseeing stringlently the laws, there was little punishment if caught so it created a culture of high corruption. And no central government doesn't mean no government and no police. Typically no central government simply means stronger local government, which of course what conservative societies are built around. You want to live in North Korea which I know most liberals do, where the central government can tell you how to poo poo, conservatives don't.

If there are no stats, there is no basis on which to make a claim a country is violent, it would simply be an unknown. I can't prove it, you can't prove, there is no available fact. even if everything you said is true, it is still all lies according to your own claim

[H10]

Not to mention that the majority of violent crime in France and the UK, as in the US and Canada, are committed by non-whites.

US

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/murder-suspect-daron-wint-threatened-kill-family-article-1.2231453

CANADA

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/yosef-gopaul-in-court-over-slaying-of-b-c-hockey-mom-julie-paskall-1.2654507

UK

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruton/2014/08/30/why-did-british-police-ignore-pakistani-gangs-raping-rotherham-children-political-correctness/

FRANCE

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/french-city-with-40-muslim-population-is-the-most-dangerous-city-in-europe/

Canada, 67% of federal criminals are white

USA, 70% of people arrested are white, 40% of whites have been arrested in the usa

France keeps no stats on race according to its laws, so we can't even guess.

Whites make up more than 75% of British prisons Stop dodging the question. This isn't a comparison thread, this is a thread on why whites do the crimes they do.

Ironically you ignore the most violent european countries like russia and ukraine have no non-white criminals.

Every objective measure shows whites commit higher or equal rates of crime than non-whites. The difference is only in legal enforcement.

"According to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, African Americans report being in a physical fight at a similar rate (36.5%, versus 32.5% for whites), but were arrested for aggravated assault at a rate nearly three times that of whites (137 per 100,000, versus 48 per 100,000).

ccording to the Center on Disease Control's annual Youth Risk Behavior Survey, in 2001 whites and African Americans reported similar rates of carrying a weapon (whites 17.9%, African Americans 15.2%), and similar rates of carrying a gun (whites 5.5%, and African Americans, 6.5%). [10] African American youth represent 32% of all weapons arrests, and were arrested for weapons offenses at a rate twice that of whites (69 per 100,000, versus 30 per 100,000).

ccording to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, among youths aged 12 to 17, the rate of current illicit drug use was 11.1 % among whites, and 9.3% among African Americans. [5] In a previous year, the same survey found that white youth aged 12 to17 are more than a third more likely to have sold drugs than African American youth. [6] The Monitoring the Future Survey of high school seniors shows that white students annually use cocaine at 4.6 times the rate of African Americans students, use crack cocaine at 1.5 times the rate of African Americans students, and use heroin at the same rate of African Americans students, and that white youth report annual use of marijuana at a rate 46% higher than African American youth. [7] However African American youth are arrested for drug offenses at about twice the rate (African American 314 per 100,000, white 175 per 100,000) times that of whites, [8] and African American youth represent nearly half (48%) of all the youth incarcerated for a drug offense in the juvenile justice system."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/van-jones/are-blacks-a-criminal-rac_b_8398.html

Whites commit far more crime, they just selectively enforce the laws against non-whites. Whites on college campus use more drugs than any other group but why doesn't the police raid them?

Ahh, so those aren't really Somali pirates at all! They're just patriots defending Somalia's maritime border!

Yes. They are local law enforcement.

Because we're richer & more economically developed, we have far more stable and inclusive governments, we have rule of law, people are far less oppressed etc. In short, white western countries (and a small handful of east Asian countries) are more civilized, and they maintain their dominance.

We don't have rule of law. If we did, our nation wouldn't exist. When land was being stolen from Indians the whites stealing land would have been hanged for land theft by the central government. If we had rule of law, the people who conducted the hundreds of ethnic cleansing like the tulsa genocide would be held to account today for their crimes. I'd agree Germany has rule of law, they prosecute old nazi criminals. America and Canada don't prosecute their war criminals who murdered out minorities. White western countries are the least civilized, commit the most crime, murder, rape, violence, robbery, land theft and behave the most savagely

You are ducking the question, why are whites so violent?

[Moonlight Graham]

Having stolen the wealth from these others so they can't reach our exalted status.

Every other major civilization in the world and throughout history has conquered other societies and stolen their wealth. Harder to feel bad when they would have done the same to us.

Pardon? Every USA president post WWII is a war criminal by Nuremberg standards.

Some people get away with BS, but Western democracies still have far better rule of law than any non-western countries, minus a few well-off East Asian countries as mentioned.

What do you think a Native American or First Nations person would think of your assessment?

If heavily armed Africans or Asians discovered the Americas do you think they would have treated natives better? Do you think if 20 million white people in Canada magically left and they were replaced by 20 million Nigerians or Chinese or Saudis running the country that they would be treating natives better right now? With the exception of a few East Asian countries, Western civilization is the most civilized civilization in human history. That is a fact proven with statistics (poverty, health, education, equality/human rights, political freedom etc.), not subjective opinion.

[Moonlight Graham]

Uk and France have far more rapers than Africa because when people rape in africa they give them death sentences or if they are rebels the military hunts them down and blows their heads off.

Please show me the evidence to prove the above statement is true, because I know you just pulled it out of your wazoo.

Africa is far safer than UK or France.

This is one of the most ridiculous claims I've read on these forums in a long time.

Why are whites so violent? Answer the original question, stop denying it.

I already answered it in this thread, several posts back.

[Je suis Omar]

Every other major civilization in the world and throughout history has conquered other societies and stolen their wealth. Harder to feel bad when they would have done the same to us.

Some people get away with BS, but Western democracies still have far better rule of law than any non-western countries, minus a few well-off East Asian countries as mentioned.

If heavily armed Africans or Asians discovered the Americas do you think they would have treated natives better? Do you think if 20 million white people in Canada magically left and they were replaced by 20 million Nigerians or Chinese or Saudis running the country that they would be treating natives better right now? With the exception of a few East Asian countries, Western civilization is the most civilized civilization in human history. That is a fact proven with statistics (poverty, health, education, equality/human rights, political freedom etc.), not subjective opinion.

Have at 'er, gang, Graham has given us full permission to murder and steal to our hearts content.

MoonlightGraham: Western civilization is the most civilized civilization in human history.

Your response screams "No no no!" Your response neglects to mention that the "leader" of this civilized group is responsible for the deaths of millions, the theft of trillions.

Edited May 23, 2015 by Je suis Omar

[Moonlight Graham]

Have at 'er, gang, Graham has given us full permission to murder and steal to our hearts content.

Have fun!

[Je suis Omar]

Have fun!

Your post says, "I'll support whoever ensures my standard of living". Would that extend to you supporting Nazi Germany?

[Guest]

Would you support Nazi Germany if they promised to get rid of the United States for you?

[Freddy]

Yes we are violent, best if you don't piss us off then I guess.

[Freddy]

Would you support Nazi Germany if they promised to get rid of the United States for you?

I think you're on to something.

Hey Omar!

Answer the question already.

This could be good.

[Moonlight Graham]

Your post says, "I'll support whoever ensures my standard of living". Would that extend to you supporting Nazi Germany?

Uhm show me where I said that supposed quote you just attributed to me above. Thanks for putting fake words in my mouth.