White racial violence problem?

[Argus]

If you think another posters are not worth responding to, then don't respond. If there's a rules violation, report it and move on.

Otherwise, please don't make things personal thanks.

Funny but I would have thought that a coordinator would already be raising this issue with a member who raises the same damned topic on every available discussion.

[Freddy]

Funny but I would have thought that a coordinator would already be raising this issue with a member who raises the same damned topic on every available discussion.

My experience with moderation in the past is , less is more. communities self moderate themselves. Ideally

[Freddy]

I see you do now understand the futility of comparing ancient history to modern international law, Argus, but you're just not capable of admitting it.

International laws only work if they are enforced by ancient brutality and savage rockets. . Who will enforce a international ruling on the United States?

Nothing has changed. The world is still ruled by the man with the biggest stick. That will never change.

If you go pissing off the man with the biggest stick and he gives you a good beating, who other then yourself can you blame?

Edited May 21, 2015 by Freddy

[Je suis Omar]

I'd like to apologize on behalf of all Americans. I'm sorry you are to weak to defend yourself against our superior rockets. My suggestion is, stop pissing off the Lion among men. Look at Canada. We have a butt load of oil and the United States hasn't attaqued us for it. Maybe you can try being nice to them. They might stop kicking the hell out of you.

I don't doubt for a moment that you have a butt load of oil, Freddy.

[Je suis Omar]

International laws only work if they are enforced by ancient brutality and savage rockets. . Who will enforce a international ruling on the United States?

I've never suggested that there is anyone who can enforce a ruling against the USA. But that only confirms what we already know - that the USA is a rogue nation. And despite the two centuries of lies, lies, lies, the truth is coming out, the USA is no different than the Nazis.

Nothing has changed. The world is still ruled by the man with the biggest stick. That will never change.

Are you that ignorant (non pejorative sense) that you know nothing of the Nuremberg Trials?

[Freddy]

I don't doubt for a moment that you have a butt load of oil, Freddy.

If you go pissing off the man with the biggest stick. And he kicks the living hell out of you. Who else then yourself can you blame?

You're the one intentionally pissing off the man with the biggest stick. You have the control to stop pissing him off.

[Freddy]

I've never suggested that there is anyone who can enforce a ruling against the USA. But that only confirms what we already know - that the USA is a rogue nation. And despite the two centuries of lies, lies, lies, the truth is coming out, the USA is no different than the Nazis. I

Are you that ignorant (non pejorative sense) that you know nothing of the Nuremberg Trials?

Your right. Any human with the ability to take anything he wants. Will take what he wants. You would act the same way if you had the biggest stick.

[Je suis Omar]

If you go pissing off the man with the biggest stick. And he kicks the living hell out of you. Who else then yourself can you blame?

You're the one intentionally pissing off the man with the biggest stick. You have the control to stop pissing him off.

Freddy, you are making a mockery of the USA. What of freedom of speech?

Is the USA just an unthinking monster?

On second thought, no need to answer that. History speaks volumes to answer that in the affirmative.

[Je suis Omar]

Your [sic] right. Any human with the ability to take anything he wants. [sic] Will take what he wants. You would act the same way if you had the biggest stick.

Okay, just to confirm.

The USA is, and has always been, a rogue, war criminal, terrorist nation. It has all been nothing but lies over the centuries portraying these vicious criminals as kind, benevolent souls.

Uncle Sam is a malevolent, greedy, rapacious monster, who makes Hitler look like Mother Teresa.

What's your line of work again, Public Relations?

[Freddy]

Okay, just to confirm.

The USA is, and has always been, a rogue, war criminal, terrorist nation. It has all been nothing but lies over the centuries portraying these vicious criminals as kind, benevolent souls.

Uncle Sam is a malevolent, greedy, rapacious monster, who makes Hitler look like Mother Teresa.

What's your line of work again, Public Relations?

Ok let's give the biggest stick to China then. Will the world be a better place? For Chines . You bet ya.

All humans are the same. Give any human the biggest stick and he will become a monster overnight.

Who would you rather have as the man with the biggest stick? Vladimir? Who would do better then the States?

[Je suis Omar]

Ok let's give the biggest stick to China then. Will the world be a better place? For Chines . You bet ya.

All humans are the same. Give any human the biggest stick and he will become a monster overnight.

Who would you rather have as the man with the biggest stick? Vladimir? Who would do better then the States?

What is it precisely that you have against the rule of law, Freddy?

What do you see as major problems if the USA did not attack poor third world countries simply to steal their wealth?

Ummmmm, I think that's exactly what most moral individuals would think was a good thing, the best thing.

And why would you think it is desirable for the USA to pretend it is a free enterprise, capitalist country when history tells us it has been nothing more than a band of marauding pirates?

Why is it a good thing for all the glorious things the USA has pretended to stand for being so badly debased by what the USA actually is?

[H10]

As has been pointed out, whites adapted inventions more than they invented things entirely. That would include philosophy, meaning the enlightenment, the rights of man, and a justice system that won't, fundamentally, allow white people to go around brutalizing people.

These are the twisted dreams of small minds... those who believe that their race brings them into a class of greatness with other white people. Great thinkers admire each others' idea, not their race.

So you are saying it has to do with white nationalism, is white nationalism the root of white violence?

I already have, Its survival. . Over billions of years of natural selection. The way we are is the product of constant elimination of traits that gives less chance at survival & procreation.

Nature made us this way.

Ok, so why are the radically different rates of white violence in differing countries? Why are some white countries like America, canada, brazil, argentina Germany, russia far more violent than other white groups?

Per capita, I highly doubt whites have the highest rate of crime. And this doesn't have to do with race, it has to do with things like poverty.

Human men are violent. Western culture, especially in the US, also has a gun culture, so that contributes to the violence, compared to countries like Japan or South Korea that has vastly lower rates of gun violence. There's also more of a machismo culture in the West than in Japan or South Korea, where also men aren't socially allowed to show "feelings" or weakness. Just my 2 cents.

I've already provided the sources which demonstrate whites have by far and away the highest crime rates of violence globally, internationally and domestically. If you couldn't read it on the first page, you can't read it now, I can't read for you.

I understand there is a white gun culture in the usa. I guess that could explain the crime to a degree. But what is the explanation for white crime in all the other countries without such cultures like canada, russia, australia, etc?

No, my argument is just because your desperate political correctness doesn't like it that people notice how Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime or Muslms commit a lot of terrorism, you don't get to make stuff up about Whites without being challenged.

No group commits more crime nor terrorism in Canada than white people, or world wide, so its useless to discuss this. We already know from all the objective statistics whites commit the most crime. The real question is why? Why do you get offended about me shining a light on dirty white laundry?

It doesn't. I think I explained it by simply saying you were making stuff up.

So whites commit no violence, the stats of 40% of white americans, 100 million people, being arrested is untrue, the surveys all got it wrong and you got it right?

Except that it's not possible to condemn criminality in one race or culture without comparing it to others. That's why people say that Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime as compared to their population. The statistics showing Blacks who only make up about 13% of the US population commit half of the violent and drug crime clearly show that compared to Whites, they commit far more crime. Likewise i criticizing Muslim terrorism, it's clear that they commit far more terrorist acts than any other people.

White British and Americans invade and bomb Iraq and Afghanistan causing over 1 million deaths. If we are going to talk honestly about terrorism, we need to start talking about the ones killing the most people, blonde hair blue eyed white people. Why can't you condemn whitee criminality? Why do you refuse to stand up against white crime? Is only non white crime able to be put down? Whites commit 80% of sexual assault in usa according to the fbi. What is the cause of this, what is the cause of white criminality?

Well, when local natives warred, the winning side often exterminated all members of the losing side. This is not an uncommon phenomenon throughout the world. There are stories from Asia and the middle east of conquerors slaughtering the entire populations of large cities down to the babes in arms. Generally speaking, Europeans preferred to rule over people rather than exterminating them, and to absorb them into their own kingdoms/empires. And as far as I know White countries are the only ones which have ever granted sovereignty to conquered peoples and territory for reasons other than being unable to continue to repress them.

What way? In a law abiding way?

So whites were fair to native indians when they signed peace treaties went back on their own legally binding treaties and stole a bunch of land? When you look at hitler, stalin, mussolini, victoria, washington, lincoln and macdonald, you don't see a picture of whites "integrating" non-whites but rather extermination. And lets be realistic, white countries only let go of territories they expected to lose. They were kicked out of the colonial period, KICKING AND SCREAMING.

What is the root cause of white criminality.

[H10]

I've never suggested that there is anyone who can enforce a ruling against the USA. But that only confirms what we already know - that the USA is a rogue nation. And despite the two centuries of lies, lies, lies, the truth is coming out, the USA is no different than the Nazis.

Are you that ignorant (non pejorative sense) that you know nothing of the Nuremberg Trials?

Now wait a minute. I will not tolerate that kind of insults in my threads.

The nazis were nowhere near as bad as Americans. Americans killed more in Iraq and Vietnam and korea their other 30+ wars in the last 100 years, not to mention all the genocides that took place on American soil like the Tulsa genocide, the Wilmington genocide, ethnic cleansing in chicago and detroit and wiping out all the Indians.

Oh, and guess what, the Nazis were held to account for their war crimes. A single white American has NEVER been held legal responsible nor gone to jail nor prison for the hundreds of ethnic cleansing and genocides on American soil, NOT ONE. The state of Israel and Germany are still hunting down 99 year old geasers who are going senile shitting on themselves and can't walk or talk and putting them on trial and in prison. White Americans who've done acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing are not held to account EVER.

[Michael Hardner]

... a member who raises the same damned topic on every available discussion.

Members with a favourite topic have been discussed quite a lot on here. As long as it's on-topic, and doesn't break the rules that is.

[Freddy]

What is it precisely that you have against the rule of law, Freddy?

What do you see as major problems if the USA did not attack poor third world countries simply to steal their wealth?

Ummmmm, I think that's exactly what most moral individuals would think was a good thing, the best thing.

And why would you think it is desirable for the USA to pretend it is a free enterprise, capitalist country when history tells us it has been nothing more than a band of marauding pirates?

Why is it a good thing for all the glorious things the USA has pretended to stand for being so badly debased by what the USA actually is?

I have nothing against the rule of law Omar. I'm just not naive enough to think it is achievable on a global scale. The rule of Nature will always be above the rule of men. Because nature shaped men during billions of years .

We can't escape that.

While You can't seem to comprehend why it doesn't work.

I'm amazed that it actually is working at all.

Rule of men works when there is a body to enforce accountability of those rules.

I've never witnessed a murderer sentence himself for killing someone.

Your argument is that a murderer should have the moral fibre to sentence himself.

Really???

Edited May 21, 2015 by Freddy

[Freddy]

Now wait a minute. I will not tolerate that kind of insults in my threads.

The nazis were nowhere near as bad as Americans. Americans killed more in Iraq and Vietnam and korea their other 30+ wars in the last 100 years, not to mention all the genocides that took place on American soil like the Tulsa genocide, the Wilmington genocide, ethnic cleansing in chicago and detroit and wiping out all the Indians.

Oh, and guess what, the Nazis were held to account for their war crimes. A single white American has NEVER been held legal responsible nor gone to jail nor prison for the hundreds of ethnic cleansing and genocides on American soil, NOT ONE. The state of Israel and Germany are still hunting down 99 year old geasers who are going senile shitting on themselves and can't walk or talk and putting them on trial and in prison. White Americans who've done acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing are not held to account EVER.

Who is going to enforce international law against the United States? Laws need enforcement. Without enforcement they are just imaginary.

[Freddy]

What is the root cause of white criminality.

No body can enforce the laws against them.

[Argus]

I've already provided the sources which demonstrate whites have by far and away the highest crime rates of violence globally

These 'sources' you've provided, were they provided during a dream, because you have provided approximately NO evidence of any sort to support this rather obvious attempt at trolling.

So whites commit no violence, the stats of 40% of white americans, 100 million people, being arrested is untrue,

There is no such stat, and your numbers, which you evidently pull out of your ass at random, are ridiculous.

What is the root cause of white criminality.

Your imagination.

[Argus]

Members with a favourite topic have been discussed quite a lot on here. As long as it's on-topic, and doesn't break the rules that is.

It's on topic to discuss Cuban American historical antagonism in a thread on Omar Khadr?

For that matter, it's all right to start an obvious troll thread and make sweeping allegations without any supporting evidence?

I think what you believe requires your intervention depends largely on your own political and ideological alignment with the subject under discussion.

Edited May 21, 2015 by Argus

[Michael Hardner]

It's on topic to discuss Cuban American historical antagonism in a thread on Omar Khadr?

I didn't say that.

For that matter, it's all right to start an obvious troll thread and make sweeping allegations without any supporting evidence?

There are lots of links in the OP, have at it.

I think what you believe requires your intervention depends largely on your own political and ideological alignment with the subject under discussion.

Funny enough, I hear that from both sides. I have my own opinions on my biases, which are different from yours.

[Michael Hardner]

And... apologies to thread drifting about moderation. I'll be glad to answer further questions in a PM or in the moderation thread.

[cybercoma]

No, my argument is just because your desperate political correctness doesn't like it that people notice how Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime or Muslms commit a lot of terrorism, you don't get to make stuff up about Whites without being challenged.

Anyone can see that those things are true, but it takes someone with more than two braincells to rub together to understand why that's true.

[Freddy]

Now wait a minute. I will not tolerate that kind of insults in my threads.

The nazis were nowhere near as bad as Americans. Americans killed more in Iraq and Vietnam and korea their other 30+ wars in the last 100 years, not to mention all the genocides that took place on American soil like the Tulsa genocide, the Wilmington genocide, ethnic cleansing in chicago and detroit and wiping out all the Indians.

Oh, and guess what, the Nazis were held to account for their war crimes. A single white American has NEVER been held legal responsible nor gone to jail nor prison for the hundreds of ethnic cleansing and genocides on American soil, NOT ONE. The state of Israel and Germany are still hunting down 99 year old geasers who are going senile shitting on themselves and can't walk or talk and putting them on trial and in prison. White Americans who've done acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing are not held to account EVER.

But you're not taking everything into account, if no one would have had the capacity of stopping the Nazi. They would have been able to continue killing . Thankfully someone had the military ability to stop them and make them accountable for their actions.

Anyone can see that, but it takes someone with more than two braincells to rub together to understand why that's true. Like cybercoma explained very adequately.

More proof that a strong military is useful

Edited May 21, 2015 by Freddy

[H10]

These 'sources' you've provided, were they provided during a dream, because you have provided approximately NO evidence of any sort to support this rather obvious attempt at trolling.

There is no such stat, and your numbers, which you evidently pull out of your ass at random, are ridiculous.

Your imagination.

You haven't read the sources so how can you even attack them?

No body can enforce the laws against them.

Thank you for at least answering the topic questions.

[Freddy]

You haven't read the sources so how can you even attack them?

Thank you for at least answering the topic questions.

Your welcome. I always get around to it, My position on most subjects is so odd most of the time, It takes a lot of explaining Edited May 22, 2015 by Freddy