NDP Make Big Move in Latest EKOS Poll

[Argus]

And hopefully his day is done. Otherwise he may actually fulfill his promise of making Canada unrecognizable.

We sure wouldn't want that. After all, Justin Trudeau said that if Canada shared Harper's values he would join the BQ and campaign for Quebec to separate. Of course, he also said that if Quebec ever did separate he'd be going with it, because he's a Quebecer first and Canadian second.

[Vancouver King]

I want to see a national poll taken after Dean Del Mastro, Harper's parliamentary secretary, was led away in leg irons and handcuffs. That it will impact the Tories is a given, the question is by how much.

[Keepitsimple]

I want to see a national poll taken after Dean Del Mastro, Harper's parliamentary secretary, was led away in leg irons and handcuffs. That it will impact the Tories is a given, the question is by how much.

There'll be plenty of polls. Be patient.

[Big Guy]

It will be interesting to find out if Dimitri Soudas decides to spill Harper inside information with the Liberal Party. Perhaps he already has and the Liberal war room is waiting for the right time (campaign) to share it with the voting public. Maybe he will wait to see if his squeeze Eve Adams gets a Liberal nomination somewhere.

[PrimeNumber]

It will be interesting to find out if Dimitri Soudas decides to spill Harper inside information with the Liberal Party. Perhaps he already has and the Liberal war room is waiting for the right time (campaign) to share it with the voting public. Maybe he will wait to see if his squeeze Eve Adams gets a Liberal nomination somewhere.

The Liberals seem to be just sitting back and waiting, like they have an ace up their sleeve. If they don't it's a dumb move because it is already costing them with their support of C-51. They're going to need some hefty artillery in order to claw back into the race. Things will get really interesting in the coming weeks if they do.

[Big Guy]

There are 16 weeks until the next election. It is only the media pundits and pollsters who are doing any prognostication because they thrive on the speculation. In politics, a week is an eternity. Some parties will try to get an early edge with early pronouncements, some will save their canon fodder for the final weeks and others have nothing prepared since they have nothing to offer.

The early pronouncers have the advantage to gauge public opinion with enough time left to change direction but are susceptible to other parties picking off the good stuff.

My interest is more in the process than the product. Any result will NOT lead to catastrophic results and I trust in the Canadian voter to make their honest decisions. That is the way it should be done and that is the way it has been done.

We get who we deserve.

[Vancouver King]

conservatives already started spending money months ago in attack adds, didn't work as polls show!

WWWTT

Good point. Conservatives continue to slide despite considerable resources dedicated to anti-Trudeau ads,

Maybe this explains the new ISIS beheading ads - an attempt to send voters cowering under their beds.

[WWWTT]

There are 16 weeks until the next election. It is only the media pundits and pollsters who are doing any prognostication because they thrive on the speculation. In politics, a week is an eternity.

An eternity in politics is an media phrase which seems to only apply once in a generation.

Not even sure if I should be making such a comment because these are one of those phrases that has a chameleon meaning.

I like to describe this one as an not so slow train wreck for the conservatives.

WWWTT

[Derek 2.0]

Perhaps he already has and the Liberal war room is waiting for the right time (campaign) to share it with the voting public.

The Liberal war room was caught flat-footed by the NDP surge and their sharp decline in the polls, starting with the NDP releasing portions of their platform last September. As a result, the Liberals have been forced to release their platform, which they didn't intend to do until the writ was dropped, but their panic policy releases over the last several weeks have garnered little to no traction.......

As I said last year in response to the NDP policy release:

It’s very strategic, and I think designed to put pressure on Trudeau more so since the NDP and Tories won’t be vying for the same type of voter……..But it also gives the Liberals a whole year to steal the NDP’s platform

The Liberals have been unable to copy NDP policies to any effect, and their own policies have received little attention or notice......Aside from the eventual CPC advertising blitz, I expect the Liberals to go all in later this Summer..........it is shaping up that have little hope of forming Government, instead, they will be fighting for Official Opposition status.........or total political irrelevance.

[WWWTT]

I want to see a national poll taken after Dean Del Mastro, Harper's parliamentary secretary, was led away in leg irons and handcuffs. That it will impact the Tories is a given, the question is by how much.

I'd like to see the polls after relentless attack adds showing Maestro in his now famous long 1 minute walk!

WWWTT

[Derek 2.0]

There are 16 weeks until the next election. It is only the media pundits and pollsters who are doing any prognostication because they thrive on the speculation. In politics, a week is an eternity. Some parties will try to get an early edge with early pronouncements, some will save their canon fodder for the final weeks and others have nothing prepared since they have nothing to offer.

Exactly, well said and very apt.........As we saw last year, the NDP, in the basement with the Trudeaumania 2.0 grabbing all the media attention, was forced to release their own policies. Clearly, to date, this slow and steady approach has reaped rewards (in polling) for the media attention......This, as I said last year, has forced the Liberals to release their platform early in an attempt to change the NDP's current momentum................And that leaves us with the Tories, that like in the last several elections, will have months to examine the other parties policies and craft a response, likewise release their own platform after the writ is dropped, with targeted policies, when Canadians are actually paying attention

[On Guard for Thee]

I'd like to see the polls after relentless attack adds showing Maestro in his now famous long 1 minute walk!

WWWTT

Maybe we will be able to get a group photo eventually, you know, Del Mastro, Brazeau, Duffy, Wallin, maybe some others from the PMO, (have I forgot anybody) all doing the perp walk.

[cybercoma]

It will be interesting to find out if Dimitri Soudas decides to spill Harper inside information with the Liberal Party.

Dimitri Soudas is scum. There's absolutely no doubt that he will. The guy doesn't have an ethical bone in his body.

[waldo]

................And that leaves us with the Tories, that like in the last several elections, will have months to examine the other parties policies and craft a response, likewise release their own platform after the writ is dropped, with targeted policies, when Canadians are actually paying attention

does this mean Harper Conservatives will actually release their campaign platform pre-election campaign... or will it come out, once again, during the leadership debates... after intense media spotlight/scrutiny for failing to release their platform?

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[Vancouver King]

Speaking of platform planks, Liberals announced today the end of fossil fuel federal subsidies. Taken together with the announcement today in Vancouver of the party's environmental policy, it shows a serious attempt to counter NDP popularity in BC - now over 50% in two successive polls.

[PIK]

We produce 1.6% of the stuff, how do we lower that. The lefties I think ,have never thought thru what it will take to lower it. Meanwhile china and America and india get top pollute away for 30 yrs. To bad they have not figured out that the money for all this anti Canada anti oil sands is coming from foreign oil producing countries that want the oil sand shut down for money purpose not the environment. To bad people cant see that they are cutting our own throats. But when it come to a religion, it takes little to get the people going.

[Keepitsimple]

We produce 1.6% of the stuff, how do we lower that. The lefties I think ,have never thought thru what it will take to lower it. Meanwhile china and America and india get top pollute away for 30 yrs. To bad they have not figured out that the money for all this anti Canada anti oil sands is coming from foreign oil producing countries that want the oil sand shut down for money purpose not the environment. To bad people cant see that they are cutting our own throats. But when it come to a religion, it takes little to get the people going.

A good example is fracking. Under Obama, fracking has rocketed in the US - and he brags about it. Here in Canada? A moratorium against fracking that will likely be in place for ages. Where are all the "activists" screaming that Obama is damaging the environment and risking the health of millions?

Those conditions include a process to consult with First Nations, a plan for waste water disposal and credible information about the impacts fracking has on health, water and the environment, Brian Gallant said Thursday.

Link: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/new-brunswick-introduces-fracking-moratorium/article22139797/

[Argus]

We produce 1.6% of the stuff, how do we lower that. The lefties I think ,have never thought thru what it will take to lower it. Meanwhile china and America and india get top pollute away for 30 yrs.

Well, of course. We can't hold 'brown people' to the same standards as white people. You must be a brutal racist to even suggest it!

[cybercoma]

Well, of course. We can't hold 'brown people' to the same standards as white people. You must be a brutal racist to even suggest it!

The problem is that you make sweeping comments like this, as though "white people" are all the same or "brown people" are all the same when there's just as much variation within groups as between them. I've long given up trying to get you to recognize that this is the reason your arguments are bigoted and biased nonsense—not to mention here racist talking about brown and white people.

[Derek 2.0]

Right, and then will you tell us why before joining the NDP, Mulcair sought a cabinet post with the Conservative Government.......which was ultimately rejected by the Conservative Party of Canada?

I'm sure all such (recorded) conversations between Mulcair and the Conservative Party will be quite interesting to gleam, but it would be most surprising if such private talks were made public during a Federal election.....

And look at that:

NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair was in discussions in 2007 to join the Conservative party as a senior adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, discussions that several sources, including former senior Harper staffers, say was the first step in securing Mulcair to run as a Conservative candidate in 2008.

The negotiations between the Conservative government and the man who is today leader of the left-leaning official Opposition allegedly broke down over money: Mulcair wanted nearly double what Harper’s office offered, two sources tell Maclean’s.

Mulcair could be a Tory today if he got the money he sought?

I'm shocked......I wonder what else with come out of these conversations?

Oh, and one of the sources:

“All had been agreed upon. He would be a senior adviser to the Prime Minister on the Environment, and would run for us in the next election. Everything was pretty much agreed to,” Soudas said Monday. The Prime Minister was briefed on these negotiations, Soudas adds.

The very same Soudas many felt had bags full of dirt on the Prime Minister and CPC...just sandbagged the NDP.....Per Soudas, Muclair would have run as a Tory if the PMO had given in to his money demands!!!!!!!1

As I said, calm before the storm

[PrimeNumber]

And look at that:

Mulcair could be a Tory today if he got the money he sought?

I'm shocked......I wonder what else with come out of these conversations?

Oh, and one of the sources:

The very same Soudas many felt had bags full of dirt on the Prime Minister and CPC...just sandbagged the NDP.....Per Soudas, Muclair would have run as a Tory if the PMO had given in to his money demands!!!!!!!1

As I said, calm before the storm

So its coming down to Soudas' words against Muclair's, is what this article suggests? Soudas has absolutely no proof, other than his word.

I'm sure if Soudas was saying something about Harper, you'd be the first to comment about how it means nothing without proof.

But of course you worship Harper and probably kiss the floor he walks on so, we'll take this for what it's worth and move on until something concrete is offered up.

[Derek 2.0]

So its coming down to Soudas' words against Muclair's, is what this article suggests? Soudas has absolutely no proof, other than his word.

No, it comes down to two sources of Macleans, of which Soudas (an open source) has confirmed.......and as this story, that only was broke several hours ago (oddly enough a day after I brought up the subject), gains traction, I'm certain more members of the Conservative Party, including the Quebec riding association Mulcair was to run in under the CPC banner, will come forward with proof........

Oddly enough, Soudas's suggestion that Mulcair sought a salary of $300k a year, came about the same time Mulcair was busy remortgaging his home for the umpteen time.........And Mulcair now claims he never spoke with Soudas, nor was to run in the then next election as a Tory (If he got his large salary prior)

It would seem most disconcerting at this time if when its proven Mulcair's memory of the incident is in doubt, if proven by both Liberal and Conservative Party members............

So the NDP is being lead by a guy that's first choice, dependent on money, was the Conservative Party of Canada!!!!

Yet nobody has yet been able to explain why the Tories and Liberals have been leaving the high-flying NDP alone.......calm before the storm

[PrimeNumber]

No, it comes down to two sources of Macleans, of which Soudas (an open source) has confirmed.......and as this story, that only was broke several hours ago (oddly enough a day after I brought up the subject), gains traction, I'm certain more members of the Conservative Party, including the Quebec riding association Mulcair was to run in under the CPC banner, will come forward with proof........

Oddly enough, Soudas's suggestion that Mulcair sought a salary of $300k a year, came about the same time Mulcair was busy remortgaging his home for the umpteen time.........And Mulcair now claims he never spoke with Soudas, nor was to run in the then next election as a Tory (If he got his large salary prior)

It would seem most disconcerting at this time if when its proven Mulcair's memory of the incident is in doubt, if proven by both Liberal and Conservative Party members............

So the NDP is being lead by a guy that's first choice, dependent on money, was the Conservative Party of Canada!!!!

Yet nobody has yet been able to explain why the Tories and Liberals have been leaving the high-flying NDP alone.......calm before the storm

Like I said until something concrete is offered up, we move on..

The only people making a big deal about this... are conservative voters, which we all know is your camp.

Edited June 30, 2015 by PrimeNumber

[On Guard for Thee]

Might be because certainly the tories, and to a lesser extent the liberals, don't have too much to attack the ndp with, without a big backfire.

[Derek 2.0]

And look at that, now the Globe and Mail has picked up the story via the Canadian-Press:

Dimitri Soudas, who was Harper’s press secretary at the time, told Maclean’s he was authorized to offer up to $180,000 a year but Mulcair wanted $300,000. Soudas says after he said he couldn’t go higher than $180,000, he never heard from Mulcair again.

Mulcair says conversations about an advisory role with the government began in 2006, but talks broke down over the Conservatives’ environmental policies and not over money.

He denies negotiating with Soudas and says he had no intention of running for the Conservatives.

So one of Mulcair (NDP) or Soudas (Liberal) is lying.........It should be interesting to see what the Tories have to offer to clear this misunderstanding up.........and if Soudas is proven correct, how Mulcair will defend attacking the Tories when he nearly joined them, but didn't, because the PMO refused to give into Mulcair's demands.

Until then, this story is breaking across the country by the minute........Mulcair won't be able to blame this on a low-level staffer, like he did pooching Canada's corporate tax rate, or the NDP National Daycare outlay duration.......And what of the past stories of Mulcair refusing paper-bags full of money by the mob???? Do these need to be reexamined too?

Edited June 30, 2015 by Derek 2.0