Canada_First Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I think you have me confused with someone else. If I do I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 How many individuals work for corporations? I can see how enough of them working in concert could have lots of influence. Only the top tier would be making donations as part of some kind of plan. Even that is illegal if they're told to do it by their employe so you have to keep the numbers very low or else it would get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Does that include encouragement and advancing according to corporate culture, there's no room for soliciting donations within legal bounds here? How many up and coming have an eye on the revolving doors that often exist between the top tiers of political parties, governments and corporations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 No one's posted the Forum poll yet?NDP 36, CPC 28, LPC 28. NDP leads in BC, ON, QC.As for room to grow, CPC falls well behind the other parties. 9% chose CPC as their second choice, 23% chose LPC, and 22% chose NDP.Leader approval ratings also puts Harper in last with 31% saying they approve and 61% saying they disapprove. Mulcair holds a 50% approval rating, while Trudeau is at 38%.Poll was conducted June 22-23 with 1,268 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 It will be interesting to see the 308 numbers when Eric returns on June 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) No one's posted the Forum poll yet? NDP 36, CPC 28, LPC 28. NDP leads in BC, ON, QC. As for room to grow, CPC falls well behind the other parties. 9% chose CPC as their second choice, 23% chose LPC, and 22% chose NDP. As predicted! There's an obvious clear momentum blowing in the sails of the NDP. I believe the thing the conservatives are looking at now is if they can hold on to second spot WWWTT edit to add this http://poll.forumresearch.com/data/Federal%20Horserace%20News%20Release%20%282015%2006%2023%29%20Forum%20Research.pdf Edited June 25, 2015 by WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Nanos's laggy ratings even have the leaders in a 3-way tie now. It's still way too early for the NDP though. They've been here before with Broadbent. There's a lot of time until the election and it will be difficult to hold onto this kind of lead when the Alberta honeymoon wears off. Edited June 25, 2015 by cybercoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 For those keeping track of time....it's June. I'm not saying the NDP won't win (I have no idea at this point), but...I'm not about to say they will either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 For those keeping track of time....it's June. I'm not saying the NDP won't win (I have no idea at this point), but...I'm not about to say they will either.I'm waiting for you to spin Forum's numbers as the CPC being ahead still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Nanos's laggy ratings even have the leaders in a 3-way tie now. It's still way too early for the NDP though. They've been here before with Broadbent. There's a lot of time until the election and it will be difficult to hold onto this kind of lead when the Alberta honeymoon wears off. Not really. The left is looking for something solid to get behind that can bury Harper. Mulcair is is looking more and more primeministerial. Harper is looking more and more tired. Can't see what's going to help Harper now either? Maestro is going to hurt, Duffy can't help. All I can think of is more attack adds. But for how long can the conservatives rely on their attack adds? Especially when there's going to be a typhoon of attack adds hitting the conservatives. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I'm waiting for you to spin Forum's numbers as the CPC being ahead still. I think that's Derek 2.0 job WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 But for how long can the conservatives rely on their attack adds? WWWTT All I know is Trudeau's a pot smoking terrorist and Mulcair is a commie who wants to break up the country. *shrugs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Extrapolating the Forum's latest numbers on the new 338 Parliament gives this result: NDP: 149 Cons: 116 Libs: 65 Bloq 3 Green: 1 The trend is away from the Conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I'm waiting for you to spin Forum's numbers as the CPC being ahead still. The polls show them behind now. Unlike you, I don't have a problem with reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 All I know is Trudeau's a pot smoking terrorist and Mulcair is a commie who wants to break up the country. *shrugs* Ya that's the point I'm getting at. You can only cry wolf for so long before the voters start dumping on you. I'm sure the conservatives are aware of the voter fatigue. Hence the attack adds light. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Extrapolating the Forum's latest numbers on the new 338 Parliament gives this result: NDP: 149 Cons: 116 Libs: 65 Bloq 3 Green: 1 The trend is away from the Conservatives. In June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 And with news like this, it looks like the conservatives are going to be on their heels backing further and further down. Still don't see them turning this around and it's clear they haven't hit bottom yet! http://www.pressprogress.ca/twitter_explodes_over_canada_s_atrocious_new_economic_numbers WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 The polls show them behind now. Unlike you, I don't have a problem with reality.Apparently you do, since they've been behind for the past month and you're just catching up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Where is Derek 2.0 and his even handed poll analysis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Not EKOS but still NDP government prediction http://globalnews.ca/news/2075610/prime-minister-tom-mulcair-new-seat-projections-poll-show-ndp-surging-across-canada/?hootPostID=fe472798b3e749d31e94f96c34680daf WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Apparently you do, since they've been behind for the past month and you're just catching up now.They weren't consistently behind. Edited June 25, 2015 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Where is Derek 2.0 and his even handed poll analysis? Right here........care to speculate the NDP's fortunes after the TPP is finalized later this Summer, and they are forced to come out against it, it being a free trade deal representing 40-50% of the World's GDP? I can't wait (for the polls) for the NDP to defend supply management industries (in namely Quebec), which result in Canadians paying too much for Dairy products and eggs, to say nothing of the greater economic impact of not being apart of said deal.......Mulcair, along with the Bloc, with have to explain why Canadians have to pay more for consumer goods, likewise why it is that Canadian business (Big, medium and small) will be left behind in terms of international trade (and further copyright protection) with the economic engine of the 21st century.......... I can't wait for the NDP (and Liberals?) to campaign, yet again, against Free Trade and the interests of the Canadian economy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) I take no satisfaction in watching a grown man cry, however, I must point out a set of numbers from today's Forum poll. On the question of leadership - approve or disapprove - here are the results: Mulcair: +31 Trudeau +1 Harper -30 All the policy questions in the world pale next to your leader's unpopularity. Edited June 26, 2015 by Vancouver King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada_First Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 All I know is I'm preparing for hard times . Stocking up in canned goods. Making sure I have a lot of arrows and ammunition. Making sure my shelter is well stocked. Just in case. I'm really worried about the future of Canada. Look at what happened to Rhodesia and South Africa. I lived through it and see the same attitudes that led to the collapse if those countries in full swing in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver King Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 All I know is I'm preparing for hard times . Stocking up in canned goods. Making sure I have a lot of arrows and ammunition. Making sure my shelter is well stocked. Just in case. I'm really worried about the future of Canada. Look at what happened to Rhodesia and South Africa. I lived through it and see the same attitudes that led to the collapse if those countries in full swing in Canada. Did the sight of Dean Del Mastro, Harper's parliamentary secretary, in leg irons and handcuffs rattle you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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