marcus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 This is why Israel needs to be boycotted: High Court okays plan to raze Arab village, build Jewish one in its place Zionism in its form today is being rejected the same way Apartheid South Africa was through boycotting. Soon, the Western governments will have no choice but to accept the inevitable. The world is speaking out. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
jacee Posted May 12, 2015 Author Report Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) From Omar's link We call for the full economic, cultural and academic boycott of Israel. Never again must mean NEVER AGAIN FOR ANYONE! . Edited May 12, 2015 by jacee Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Neither is using that word when it doesn't apply. Only the fringe, those with no credibility whatsoever use that word to describe this situation. Genocide doesn't mean that there has to be a complete success, Poochy. If it did, there would never have been a "successful" genocide. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Would you please refrain from using the pejorative Looney Left. It's against the forum rules. You're kidding, right? It's a term for the fringe Left - not for traditional Liberals and NDP......similar to the fringe bible-thumping Religious Right. You can't get more Looney than throwing Climate "deniers" in jail. Quote Back to Basics
cybercoma Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 You're kidding, right? It's a term for the fringe Left - not for traditional Liberals and NDP......similar to the fringe bible-thumping Religious Right. You can't get more Looney than throwing Climate "deniers" in jail.I could have just reported you. I decided to take the route of asking you not to refer to people you disagree with as Loony. It's against the rules for a reason, so I'm asking politely for you to stop. If you would rather, I could just report it next time and move on. Quote
PIK Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Why would Israel do anything the UN says. The UN is definitely anti sematic. By the way it picks on Israel and looks the other way at the real evil people in the world. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
GostHacked Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 You're kidding, right? It's a term for the fringe Left - not for traditional Liberals and NDP......similar to the fringe bible-thumping Religious Right. You can't get more Looney than throwing Climate "deniers" in jail. Wow. I think the brainwashing goes deep with people still believing in the left/right division in ideology. That alone allows the division between us when discussion these events. Some think it is all partisan, when BOTH sides are messing with you. But the brainwashing allows one to hit on the other side instead of the people perpetuating the divide among us. Lose the left/right terms. Lose the NPD, Lib, Dem, 'other' tag. Nothing but division and conquer. We are no longer a cohesive group that has a common goal because our government is shortsighted with an election every few years that change the course of this nation. When people talk about loony lefties, to me they must be the ones who listen to the likes of Bill O'Reilly and Ezra Levant. I prefer a more centered approach to all of this. But when I do the left call me a righty, and the right call me a lefty. See the problem? Quote
Charles Anthony Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Folks, Stop making things personal. If you keep insisting on making things personal, you will take a vacation. The reason is not only aesthetic but practical because the definitions/reality symbolized by your labels are debateable. Whenever discussions get personal, the essence of the debate becomes meaningless because you all talk past eachother. It is that simple. Avoid labels and names to get to the heart of the discussion. I could have just reported you. I decided to take the route of asking you not to refer to people you disagree with as Loony. It's against the rules for a reason, so I'm asking politely for you to stop. If you would rather, I could just report it next time and move on.It is already noted. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
poochy Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Genocide doesn't mean that there has to be a complete success, Poochy. If it did, there would never have been a "successful" genocide. There is not one reputable source of information that would refer to this situation as a genocide. But keep spinning. Quote
dre Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Israel should be held to the same standards as planet Earth. And btw, is there a boycott/divest group aimed at North Korea, or Russia, or China, or any of the hundred other countries out there which violate human rights? Is there a strong boycott Egypt or boycott Pakistan group? Boycott Nigeria or boycott Kenya? Boycott Indonesia or Malaysia? Nobody gives a crap about how many human rights violations the rest of the world engages in except for their own expatriates. Those situations are different. They are internal to those countries. Israel is expanding its borders by taking land that doesnt belong to them and keeping millions of people stateless. Its a completely different situation. And people DO give a crap about other conflicts. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
dre Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Whatever side of CONFLICT: DIRTFARM, and the embarassing never ending conflict between those two gangs of religious dirtbags over there... Its kinda sad that we can all agree that threatening to use hate-crimes legislation against people that participate in a peaceful movement to bring about political change through divestment, is a pretty disgusting thing for a government to do. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
On Guard for Thee Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Whatever side of CONFLICT: DIRTFARM, and the embarassing never ending conflict between those two gangs of religious dirtbags over there... Its kinda sad that we can all agree that threatening to use hate-crimes legislation against people that participate in a peaceful movement to bring about political change through divestment, is a pretty disgusting thing for a government to do. I guess when you have worked as hard as Harper has to convince your voter base that he and his party are the only ones who can keep you safe from crime, I guess you have to also work hard to find crimes to protect them from. Quote
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 What is the motivation of the Harper government to be so blatantly pro-Zionist to go as far as trying to ban the freedom to boycott? Is it religious (rapture)? Is it financial? Is it something something else? Most likely principle, not a concept you're likely familiar with. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy,in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: But Israel hasn't attempted to destroy any ethnic, racial or religious group. So your accusation is so much ignorance. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Because Israel is the lead baby rogue nation of the world's top rogue nation. Only because it's Jewish and a lot of people hate Jews. In fact, what Israel does is pretty damned minor compared to most of the world, including its neighbours. Edited May 12, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Why don't you go become a commentator for Sun News Network? Oh wait, they went out of business because Canadians don't like watching Foxnews. As low as the quality of Sun news was, it was still better than anything you've got behind you, Herr Marcus. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 But Israel hasn't attempted to destroy any ethnic, racial or religious group. So your accusation is so much ignorance. What group do you put Palestinians in I wonder. Quote
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Genocide doesn't mean that there has to be a complete success, Poochy. If it did, there would never have been a "successful" genocide. The population of the Palestinian area has quadrupled since Israel took over. That's quite the lack of success there. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Those situations are different. They are internal to those countries. Different because it's not Jews doing it, you mean? And what the hell does 'internal' mean? People don't give a damn about what China is doing to is Muslims and Christian or what Malaysia or Indonesia are doing to their minorities because that's 'internal"? I thought the horror at the oppression of the Palestinians was based on something more than legal technicalities. Edited May 12, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 What group do you put Palestinians in I wonder. If you want the truth, it's not a group at all. They're Arabs and Muslims, but there is nothing distinct in the way of cultural heritage, ethnicity, religion or language about them. But regardless, if you do wish to consider them a group the fact their numbers continue to grow at a tremendous rate makes accusations of 'genocide' laughable nonsense. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Its kinda sad that we can all agree that threatening to use hate-crimes legislation against people that participate in a peaceful movement to bring about political change through divestment, is a pretty disgusting thing for a government to do. To repeat, you can't use hate crime legislation against people simply for boycotting Israel. It would be the 'hate speech' which tries to convince people of why they ought to boycott Israel which could be targeted. I don't personally support hate speech laws, but I find it humourous that the people who are adamantly in support of that legislation now want an exemption to say anything they want, however hateful and vile against Israelis (and, if the truth were known, Jews). Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 If you want the truth, it's not a group at all. They're Arabs and Muslims, but there is nothing distinct in the way of cultural heritage, ethnicity, religion or language about them. But regardless, if you do wish to consider them a group the fact their numbers continue to grow at a tremendous rate makes accusations of 'genocide' laughable nonsense. Not sure why you dredged up the genocide word. What is laughable nonsense is how you dismiss what has actually occurred in the region. But them they are Muslim so I get the nonsense. Quote
Argus Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Not sure why you dredged up the genocide word. What is laughable nonsense is how you dismiss what has actually occurred in the region. But them they are Muslim so I get the nonsense. Dredged up? Given it was used several times yesterday on this topic it wasn't much of a dredge. As for what is going on in Palestine, it's a hell of a lot less murderous than what's going on in Egypt or Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan or Yemen or Sudan or Pakistan or Bangladesh. Why the hell aren't you wringing your hands over them? Edited May 12, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Dredged up? Given it was used several times yesterday on this topic it wasn't much of a dredge. As for what is going on in Palestine, it's a hell of a lot less murderous than what's going on in Egypt or Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan or Yemen or Sudan or Pakistan or Bangladesh. Why the hell aren't you wringing your hands over them? Ah, because the topic at hand was Palestinians, and because I leave the hand wringing to others. Carry on. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted May 12, 2015 Report Posted May 12, 2015 Most likely principle, not a concept you're likely familiar with. Principle? The principle that he unconditionally supports a country that continuously violates human rights? Time to dump a party that has such a principle. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
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