bush_cheney2004 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Protesters raged in Montreal against capitalism, austerity measures, and "privatization" on May Day. Police officers used tear gas and a strong show of force to stem property destruction, smashed windows, and trespassing. Downtown Montreal was plunged into familiar chaos for a few hours on Friday night as several hundred protesters, many wearing masks, clashed with police who fired off tear gas to try to disperse them. Many of the demonstrators said they were bent on destroying capitalism as they engaged in cat-and-mouse tactics with police on May Day, breaking up when forced to and then gathering again in small groups for renewed confrontation. ... "It's our dissent, it's our rebellion, and May 1st is our day," Rich Bonemeal said. "We don't have to ask permission, say please and thank you, or apologize for our presence disrupting the course of capitalist activity. We are in the streets because we want to be disruptive. It's a right you don't ask for, it's a right you have to claim." http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/anti-capitalist-protesters-clash-with-police-in-montreal-1.2353988 Should the Liberal government alter planned austerity measures to meet the concerns of protesters ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 "Many of the demonstrators said they were bent on destroying capitalism..." Wow! You don't think they did, do you? Quote
cybercoma Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Good. There needs to be people challenging capitalism. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson
Guest Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Yes, but destroying it? I was going to go out for dinner. Quote
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 It's time for police to start using harsher methods. This type of thing should never be referred to as "familiar". Quote
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Good. There needs to be people challenging capitalism.Challenging things is always good. But it's how one challenges them. Quote
Guest Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 I wonder if it will be a good, state owned, worker run company that will be fixing all those Starbuck's windows. Quote
Ash74 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Good. There needs to be people challenging capitalism. You are absolutely right. Every system needs challenged or it cannot not be controlled. Protesting capitalism, governments, for rights. These protests can start change and there are times when change is desperately needed. It's time for police to start using harsher methods. This type of thing should never be referred to as "familiar". I do agree that destroying property is a stupid plan when protesting capitalism when it will be the workers that suffer. Time lost and such. But harsher measures than tear gas and riot police is over kill. These things can be replaced. A human life cannot. What bothers me about this is what magical system do the protesters think will replace capitalism? Governments are just as corrupt. CEO's will be replaced by party hacks that have kissed the right babies than will abuse the power. Montreal is ripe with it as is history. I wish for nobody to be starving in the streets or left for dead in a gutter but how many of us depend on those "nasty corporations" for our pay checks. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Posted May 3, 2015 It's time for police to start using harsher methods. This type of thing should never be referred to as "familiar". Yes....that was odd..."familiar chaos"...in Downtown Montreal. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 It's time for police to start using harsher methods. This type of thing should never be referred to as "familiar". I dont suppose, based on current events, you could have picked a dumber time to make such a statement. Quote
Wilber Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Kind of like the familiar chaos in Seattle. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Posted May 3, 2015 .....I wish for nobody to be starving in the streets or left for dead in a gutter but how many of us depend on those "nasty corporations" for our pay checks. Apparently, not many of these poor dispossessed souls. "We're mad as hell, mostly because people just ignore us until we riot". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Apparently, not many of these poor dispossessed souls. "We're mad as hell, mostly because people just ignore us until we riot". Yet another fat cat statement. You can only insulate from reality for so long. Quote
Ash74 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Yet another fat cat statement. You can only insulate from reality for so long. History shows that the protesters start wanting bigger tv's so they shower and go find a job. Usually with a corporation. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 I dont suppose, based on current events, you could have picked a dumber time to make such a statement. Not at all. Something needs to be done if these thugs and vandals are routinely destroying parts of the city. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 History shows that the protesters start wanting bigger tv's so they shower and go find a job. Usually with a corporation. Now what history would that be... Quote
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Apparently, not many of these poor dispossessed souls. "We're mad as hell, mostly because people just ignore us until we riot". Probably millenials. They want everything for free, and with as little work as possible. Quote
Ash74 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Now what history would that be... Usually these riots are young in age. Early twenties and younger. University kids and such. They graduate and go find jobs. Quote “Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”― Winston S. Churchill There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein
On Guard for Thee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Not at all. Something needs to be done if these thugs and vandals are routinely destroying parts of the city. Sure. With the thugs and vandals. Now how about legitimate protesters. The headlines are currently full of cops using harsher methods. Got 6 of em serious criminal charges. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Posted May 3, 2015 Probably millenials. They want everything for free, and with as little work as possible. Is it just a repeat of the Occupy Movement and their manifesto, Montreal style ? They looked pretty stupid protesting while using iPhones and iPads. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Sure. With the thugs and vandals. Now how about legitimate protesters. The headlines are currently full of cops using harsher methods. Got 6 of em serious criminal charges.People that destroy property and break windows aren't legitimate protestors. The Montreal police need to do a better job protecting people's property. Quote
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) Is it just a repeat of the Occupy Movement and their manifesto, Montreal style ? They looked pretty stupid protesting while using iPhones and iPads. Good point. Who knew that one could be an anti-capitalist and a fanboi at the same time! Edited May 3, 2015 by Shady Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 People that destroy property and break windows aren't legitimate protestors. The Montreal police need to do a better job protecting people's property. Apparently you werent able to comprehend my post. You are just being repetitive.. Quote
Shady Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 Apparently you werent able to comprehend my post. You are just being repetitive..I was discussing the Montreal riot, which is what this thread is about. Quote
jacee Posted May 3, 2015 Report Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) People that destroy property and break windows aren't legitimate protestors. The Montreal police need to do a better job protecting people's property.This "riot" was caused by police aggressively enforcing an illegitimate law, trying to disperse every protest immediately, with horses, tear gas, etc.Montreal city council thugs can take the blame and pay the damages. It took police just a few minutes after it started to declare the march illegal because organizers did not give the route beforehand. It's disgusting. . Edited May 3, 2015 by jacee Quote Rapists, pedophiles, and nazis post online too.
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