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There is an upcoming election that may indicate the support (or lack of it) for the Netanyahu in Israel. It will be interesting to see if the Zionists agree or disagree with the majority of Israelis;

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ZIONIST_ELECTIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-04-18-11-29-02

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Not all Zionists, just U.S. Zionists. From the article:

The World Zionist Congress - a global Zionist body that formed more than a century ago but retains significant influence in Israel - is holding elections for U.S. delegates to its global assembly. At stake is leadership of an organization that helps manage agencies in Israel with budgets in the hundreds of millions of dollars.

While past voting for the congress has attracted little attention beyond a small circle of American Zionist groups, liberal U.S. Jewish leaders are hoping this time will be different: They are pointing to the election as a way their communities can register discontent with the direction of the Israeli government after Benjamin Netanyahu won re-election last month.

Hardline American Zionists are mobilizing as well to advance their priorities - including support for Jewish settlements on occupied land claimed by the Palestinians for their future state.

"All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain

Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.

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I voted in that election for the Reform Jewish slate, run by ARZA.

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Sounds good to me....Zionism > Terrorism.

Zionism = Terrorism

Menachem Begin was called a terrorist and a fascist by Albert Einstein and 27 other prominent Jewish intellectuals in a letter to the New York Times which was published on December 4, 1948. Specifically condemned was the participation of the Irgun in the Deir Yassin massacre:

  • "terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants – 240 men, women and children – and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem."

The letter warns American Jews against supporting Begin's request for funding of his political party Herut, and ends with the warning:

  • "The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal."[21]

Lehi was described as a terrorist organization[22] by the British authorities and United Nations mediator Ralph Bunche.[23]

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Let's hold off any more images for awhile. The points have been made, but we don't want a picture war on here.

Good....the point should be obvious when it comes to Israel and Zionism, but some people who already enjoy the fruit of imperialism always get amnesia.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Good....the point should be obvious when it comes to Israel and Zionism, but some people who already enjoy the fruit of imperialism always get amnesia.

That's a terrible argument.

It's like someone trying to argue that slavery is okay to do today because it was done in the past.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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That's a terrible argument.

It's like someone trying to argue that slavery is okay to do today because it was done in the past.

Nice try....Canada still has unsettled land and resource claims...long after "slavery" was abolished.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Nice try....Canada still has unsettled land and resource claims...long after "slavery" was abolished.

There is a big difference between unsettled land claims and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. Nice try.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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There is a big difference between unsettled land claims and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. Nice try.

Sure is....Canada took and intends to keep...half a continent. God Save the Queen and all that jazz.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Sure is....Canada took and intends to keep...half a continent. God Save the Queen and all that jazz.

There is a big difference between unsettled land claims and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. Nice try. Over 2000 Gazans were killed and the rest have been living in an open air prison for over 8 years. The Palestinians have been occupied and their land has continuously shrunk in size for decades.... Apartheid Rogue State and and all that jazz.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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There is a big difference between unsettled land claims and what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. Nice try. Over 2000 Gazans were killed and the rest have been living in an open air prison for over 8 years. The Palestinians have been occupied and their land has continuously shrunk in size for decades.... Apartheid Rogue State and and all that jazz.

That's what happens after decades of kidnappings, murders, suicide bombs, and rocket attacks. Such a winning strategy !

The land claims and occupations continue in Canada....with a long history of "genocide". Oh the humanity ! {sobbing}

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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That's what happens after decades of kidnappings, murders, suicide bombs, and rocket attacks. Such a winning strategy !

The land claims and occupations continue in Canada....with a long history of "genocide". Oh the humanity ! {sobbing}

What the British did or any other colonizer did over a century ago would not fly right now. Our laws and moral standards (for most of us anyway) have changed.

What Israel has done and continues to do to the Palestinians right now is not being done by Canada to the aboriginals, so your comparison fails again.

When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi

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