On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Canadians kill people across the sea to protect their "human rights" ! And we stay home when the war is deemed illegal. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Canada can continue to hire foreign security contractors to fool the rubes back home: http://humansecurity.moonfruit.com/#/vol63-perrin/4527827075 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 The food is very good at the Black Bear Inn. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 The food is very good at the Black Bear Inn. As you've said several times........Do you mean the food from the vending machines or what you cook yourself, in the communal kitchens, stocked with a shared fridge and microwave? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 As you've said several times........Do you mean the food from the vending machines or what you cook yourself, in the communal kitchens, stocked with a shared fridge and microwave? Nope, I mean in the cafeteria. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Nope, I mean in the cafeteria. There is no cafeteria at the Black Bear Inn....... Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 There is no cafeteria at the Black Bear Inn....... Apparently youve ever been there then. I guess to be totally accurate its not actually in the inn. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Apparently youve ever been there then. I guess to be totally accurate its not actually in the inn. One thing is for certain, you haven't....... Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 One thing is for certain, you haven't....... A million rounds a month baby. It was fun. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 A million rounds a month baby. It was fun. On your Nintendo or xbox? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 On your Nintendo or xbox? I guess if you havent bee there you wouldnt know about the ranges at Moyock. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 There is no cafeteria at the Black Bear Inn....... Here is a little picture of the cafeteria you say doesnt exist. https://www.academi.com/pages/facilities/moyock-nc/dining-hall Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Here is a little picture of the cafeteria you say doesnt exist. https://www.academi.com/pages/facilities/moyock-nc/dining-hall One, its not a cafeteria, but a dinning hall with kitchen, to allow a battalion sized military formation (using the ranges) to feed its personal, with meals prepared by its own logistic staff........second, food prepared in large quantity, by any military, and served in steam trays is not good, let alone very good........third, the dinning hall, is not located in the Black Bear Inn as you stated, several times in various threads....... If you want "very good food" from anywhere within the region, you have to cross the State line into Tidewater........ Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 One, its not a cafeteria, but a dinning hall with kitchen, to allow a battalion sized military formation (using the ranges) to feed its personal, with meals prepared by its own logistic staff........second, food prepared in large quantity, by any military, and served in steam trays is not good, let alone very good........third, the dinning hall, is not located in the Black Bear Inn as you stated, several times in various threads....... If you want "very good food" from anywhere within the region, you have to cross the State line into Tidewater........ Um, you dont need to describe it to me. Ive taken many a good meal there. The bunks at the Black Bear were a bit tight though. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 This isn't germane to the thread, please keep to the topic in the OP. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Derek 2.0 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Um, you dont need to describe it to me. Ive taken many a good meal there. The bunks at the Black Bear were a bit tight though. Before or after your million rounds a month training? Odd that you pretend to have received firearms training from ex special forces, but can't identify a shotgun (a shotgun co-designed by Blackwater to boot), have claimed to have burnt your hand on the barrel of an M4 (despite such carbines having handguards and heat shields) and don't know the difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"............Likewise your piss poor retelling of both the acronym and actual procedure for safely clearing the M-16/M-4 platform, something drilled into the heads of every 17 year old that has went through a Western military basic course....... Based on your own posts, I highly doubt you've ever handled a real firearm (outside of the ones that come with your video games), let alone were trained to handle and shoot one by former SEALS and Delta Force at Blackwater........ Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Before or after your million rounds a month training? Odd that you pretend to have received firearms training from ex special forces, but can't identify a shotgun (a shotgun co-designed by Blackwater to boot), have claimed to have burnt your hand on the barrel of an M4 (despite such carbines having handguards and heat shields) and don't know the difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"............Likewise your piss poor retelling of both the acronym and actual procedure for safely clearing the M-16/M-4 platform, something drilled into the heads of every 17 year old that has went through a Western military basic course....... Based on your own posts, I highly doubt you've ever handled a real firearm (outside of the ones that come with your video games), let alone were trained to handle and shoot one by former SEALS and Delta Force at Blackwater........ The acronym SPORTS do you mean. One thing that was quite interesting was I had just come from a St. Johns Ambulance training session and some of the ways the battlefield first aid differed were noteworthy. Edited April 13, 2015 by On Guard for Thee Quote
Rue Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 To answer Derek yes of course. No problem with that. To answer Bush directly, no problem with Erik Prince-very qualified in training body guards and evasive techniques to protect vips under attack. I have zero problem with you 2 arguing we need specialized training the military doesn;t have say for protecting vip's. Got it. Totally agree. I have zero problem with that. My hate on is not for Prince or for the concept of specialized training for specific specialized needs falling outside conventional military training. My anger is for other things-behaviour, values, political decisions made by Blackwater which contradicts the very training of Erik Prince. if I thought for a moment Blackwater was honouring the disciplined head space of a Seal or SAS operative you would not hear a peep from me. I know good men who came back from Iraq. They have no reason to lie about what they saw Blackwater mercenaries do. You know my bias. I don't like them. Never call them a Seal or SAS operative. Some of them might have been Seals but they lost their values somewhere along the line in that organization corrupted by fat contracts and too much power on the ground with no accountability. May I say I know some elite trained officers. It is an insult to them to say Blackwater teaches anyone to be like them. Let me leave it at that. I don't really disagree with you 2. My venom is directed specifically at one organization not the concept of outsourcing when its done right. I don't like private wars where the mercenaries outnumber the soldiers, get paid a fortune and place the soldiers in harm's way to do their dirty work. Quote
PIK Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Don't make it sound like canadian soldiers are angels and their morals will be hurt by training with these people. Thru out our history Canadian soldiers were mean, lean and brutal killing machines. Edited April 13, 2015 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 ....I don't like private wars where the mercenaries outnumber the soldiers, get paid a fortune and place the soldiers in harm's way to do their dirty work. Meh...there are plenty of well paid private contractors behind every soldier, for direct and indirect support. Blackwater is just a higher visibility drop in the bucket. Soldiers don't work for free either. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jacee Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) One, its not a cafeteria, but a dinning hall with kitchen ... MLW ... where childish squabbling passes for adult discussion. :/ But speaking of Blackwater ... Conviction of four former Blackwater security guards ... lengthy prison terms for their roles in a 2007 shooting of unarmed civilians in Iraq U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth sentenced former guard Nicholas Slatten to life in prison and three others to 30-year terms for their roles in the shootings that killed 14 Iraqi civilians and wounded 17 others in Baghdad's Nisoor Square. . Edited April 14, 2015 by jacee Quote
Big Guy Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) That is the unfortunate part of our recent "excursions" into the Middle East. The USA and Canada made use of a mercenary army which was not figured into reports during the conflict. We would supply money to certain businesses and projects who in turn would hire these mercenaries for their needs. Meanwhile we would write the monies off as "development and reconstruction" costs. This way it was easier to hide the actual costs of our recent wars. There are currently over 100,000 "security contractors" in Afghanistan to-day. Edited April 14, 2015 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Topaz Posted April 14, 2015 Author Report Posted April 14, 2015 For those of you thought my post was about 2012 , the following video says different as it was posted april 10, 2015. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 Well, if it was news in 2012 then reposting a video in 2015 still doesn't make it new "news" does it ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
PIK Posted April 14, 2015 Report Posted April 14, 2015 And jacee posting something that is 8 yrs old. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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