Historic deal between Iran and the world could happen

[Hudson Jones]

Lots more "lube" where that came from.

I'm sure you'll still be able to find videos of atrocities online somewhere to help you with your need.

[bush_cheney2004]

I'm sure you'll still be able to find videos of atrocities online somewhere to help you with your need.

True....Hamas will be stupid for a long time.

[Hudson Jones]

True....Hamas will be stupid for a long time.

Hamas is a product of the situation Israel put the Palestinians in. Once Israel is forced to follow the law through BDS and world governments pressure, Hamas will have to continue to change their tone or they will be replaced by more moderates.

You will have the violence in Africa to turn to, for gratification. For a while anyway.

[WWWTT]

Um, the recent and most pressing sanctions have come under Obama, in 2009 and 2011. They're actually what brought Iran to the negotiating table. Unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about.

That's why the Iranian economy grew? Because of US (the far away land for Iran) and Canadian sanctions????

Got news for you buddy, better start doing some research on the Iranians before you keep making more guesses on reality.

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[Moonlight Graham]

Quotes from Obama after the tentative deal had been reached:

"When you hear inevitable critics, ask them a simple question: is this deal a worse option than another war in the Middle East?"

"If we can get this done...we will be able to resolve one of the gravest threats to our security peacefully."

[WWWTT]

Sure...make a bad deal. Israel ain't making any such deal...can always bomb Iran later.

Wonder what China and India would do when a little welfare state like Israel tampered with their well being?

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[WWWTT]

PM Netanyahu's election win was far better "lube".

Sure, he's good at running the welfare state.

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[Moonlight Graham]

He has contempt for all the Middle East. He's fueled by this know it all arrogance that flows from mama's molly coddling. He's a Mama's boy convinced he is the world's gift and all he has to do is grin and the world would worship him. Seems Barry's w orld has not evolved. His problem? He believed the fantasy script his handlers gave him.

Obama is a failed CIA experiment. He's a virus grown in a petrie dish in a CIA lab. He was to be unleashed in the Muslim world and have his ideas spread like cancer. Only the Sunni monarchies and the Sunni and Shiite extremists al had auto-immune systems that easily rejected him, He sure as hell did not penetrate Netanyahu's colon.

In your opinion what should Obama do regarding Iran? You support this deal or no? And what do you think Israel should do? Please try to limit your response to 300 words or less.

[Big Guy]

No deal would guarantee a road to war. This deal may prevent or at least postpone that war. That in itself is a positive development.

[Moonlight Graham]

One of three things going on here in this comment or a combination of.

1. You are ignorant of world economies. And that they continue to trade with Iran

2. You are ignorant of world geography, and how it relates to economic power.

3. You are ignorant of the fact that the Iranian economy is actually growing.

4. You are ignorant of the fact that the US is opening talks with Iran, not the other way around.

But you keep believing whatever you want to believe.

WWWTT

Well first of all I never said that the sanctions were working, I said it's the best case scenario.

As for Iran's economy growing, from when are you referring....what time scale? Also, link?

[Big Guy]

I am very pleased to see that a "tentative" deal has been reached. At least it now allows a debate in the USA between the Democrats and Republicans where I assume the next election may well highlight the difference between the Dems and Cons on the Middle East strategy. The American people will then be the final judge.

This deal will also have to be ratified by the militant right wing clerics in Iran. That might be an even greater hurdle for this peace deal to be ratified.

But, at least the first step has been taken and the sense of hopelessness on both sides has been alleviated - for now.

[Rue]

WWT Israel is not a welfare state. Comments like that only show your bias. You might also want to exam the actual relationships between India, China and Israel before you assume you can make comments like you did.

As well why you think Israel tampers with anyone's economy is laughable.

I get it though. You are anti Israel and you pass off such comments as debate. Got it. We have no shortage of unsubstantiated comments posed as debate but are nothing more than name calling.

Before you accuse Israel of tampering with anyone's economy go look at China's track record.

[WWWTT]

Well first of all I never said that the sanctions were working, I said it's the best case scenario.

As for Iran's economy growing, from when are you referring....what time scale? Also, link?

A couple months back I did some searches to see how well their economy is.

I found that it's not the greatest, however, it's not the as bad as what some people may think with a 1% growth in GDP for 2014.

Now the drop in oil's effect? I'm not sure

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[WWWTT]

But, at least the first step has been taken and the sense of hopelessness on both sides has been alleviated - for now.

You have a link for that "sense of hopelessness" for the Iranians?

With trading partners like India China Brazil Russia and Argentina, I don't think your opinion is reflected in the reality.

But if you want to continue to live in the 1960's, be my guest!

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[WWWTT]

WWT Israel is not a welfare state. Comments like that only show your bias. You might also want to exam the actual relationships between India, China and Israel before you assume you can make comments like you did.

As well why you think Israel tampers with anyone's economy is laughable.

I get it though. You are anti Israel and you pass off such comments as debate. Got it. We have no shortage of unsubstantiated comments posed as debate but are nothing more than name calling.

Before you accuse Israel of tampering with anyone's economy go look at China's track record.

First off my handle here is WWWTT not WWT

Secondly, it's good to see you are writing a shorter comment.

And finally, Israel is a welfare state. It receives vast amounts of capital for the simple fact that it exists. Nothing more.

Let's see Israel bomb or make war with Iran whom has customers relying on uninterrupted flow of fuel from them.

Israel likes to talk big, but in the end, the US isn't the alfa anymore.

WWWTT

[Rue]

First off WWWWT if you are going to allege Israel is a welfare state back it up.

What vast amount of capital does it receive and from who and provide the evidence its welfare.

Here's a hint. The fact you proclaim Israel is a welfare state doesn't make it one. That tiresome refrain has been repudiated over

and over.

Let's see Israel bomb Iran you say? Sounds like big talk from you not Israel.

Why the hell do you think China formed a military alliance with Israel?

It did so, to assure Israel it understood Israel's concern about Iran.

In fact that is one of the stabilizing acts that is preventing Israel from feeling forced to attack Iran.

Zip that one went over your head. China was concerned unlike you and that is precisely why

it went to Israel directly and said, look we are the no. 1 user of Iran energy, we can't afford you blowing

it up but we sure as hell know why you are feeling militarily vulnerable.

This is not about bombing Iran. Its about Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, the Gulf States as well as

Israel being directly threatened by Shiite extremists sponsored by Iran. The nuclear issue is but one reason for

concern.The Iranians are at war in Syria, Lebanon,Bahrain, Yemen, the West Bank and Iraq.

They finance Shiite and favourable Sunni extremists like Hamas.

That is what it is about.

No one knows better then Netanyahu what the military risk is and what can and cannot be done. You think you

are smarter than him and can laugh at him? Be my guest. Another arm chair intelligence expert.

Edited April 4, 2015 by Rue

[Cyrus]

First off WWWWT if you are going to allege Israel is a welfare state back it up.

This is not just an allegation. It's happening:

in fiscal year 2014, the US provided $3.6 billion in foreign military aid to Israel. Israel also benefits from about $8 billion of loan guarantees.

Link: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

Edited April 4, 2015 by Cyrus

[WWWTT]

Why the hell do you think China formed a military alliance with Israel?

Never knew China had a "military" alliance with Israel?

I know China has numerous trading partners. That's actually part of their success in becoming the #1 world economy!

Now what is it that Israel has that China would be interested to barter for?

The only thing that comes to mind is selling US military secrets to China.

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[Cyrus]

The tentative deal has brought out the hawks on both sides. However, it looks like it's only the ones in the U.S. who have a chance to derail this deal. I don't always agree with Obama, but he did pose a good question:

"When you hear the inevitable critics of the deal sound off, ask them a simple question: Do you really think that this verifiable deal, if fully implemented, backed by the world's major powers, is a worse option than the risk of another war in the Middle East?" Obama said.

"Is it worse than doing what we've done for almost two decades with Iran moving forward with its nuclear program and without robust inspections?"

Link: http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/politics/iran-nuclear-deal-obama-legacy/

[Big Guy]

I would predict that if the American Congress manages to derail this tentative agreement that China, France, Russia, United Kingdom and Germany will unilaterally drop sanctions against Iran.

They will read it as an American failure and break the sanction agreements that they had with the USA.

[Derek 2.0]

I would predict that if the American Congress manages to derail this tentative agreement that China, France, Russia, United Kingdom and Germany will unilaterally drop sanctions against Iran.

They will read it as an American failure and break the sanction agreements that they had with the USA.

I highly doubt the United Kingdom would move counter to the United States, even with an election looming.

Edited April 4, 2015 by Derek 2.0

[Derek 2.0]

Now what is it that Israel has that China would be interested to barter for?

The only thing that comes to mind is selling US military secrets to China.

WWWTT

After the Russians, Israel is the second largest defense technology provider to China.......everything from search and fire control radars, military grade communications, to NVG and small arms optics.....

[On Guard for Thee]

Patently false, as Israel bombed nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria years ago. Gaza gets bombed just for being stupid.

Ad you dot think they had the nod from Merika for that...tsk tsk.

[WWWTT]

I would predict that if the American Congress manages to derail this tentative agreement that China, France, Russia, United Kingdom and Germany will unilaterally drop sanctions against Iran.

They will read it as an American failure and break the sanction agreements that they had with the USA.

China and Russia have imposed no sanctions that I am aware of?

Furthermore countries like France Germany and the UK are much smaller economies than what you may think.

Countries like India and Brazil that openly trade with Iran among others, are in no need of making any deals to lift any sanctions that they have not imposed.

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[WWWTT]

I highly doubt the United Kingdom would move counter to the United States, even with an election looming.

Makes no difference, both countries are getting the short end of the stick.

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