On Guard for Thee Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 That was drole.....I see what you did there. It was well done. Quote
jbg Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) More than six years ago, about three (3) months after his inauguration, I expressed serious doubts that President Obama loves his country, in a posting I made. I will make that post available by PM on request so no one can say I'm a Monday morning quarterback. Unfortunately, events have borne me out. He does not seem to believe that his country is much greater than the tinpot despotisms that infest the world. In fact, he seems to be doing everything in his power to hobble his own country.Apparently, as the OP points out, former New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani agrees with me (link to article), excerpts below:Later he qualified his remarks: Well, first of all, I’m not questioning his patriotism. He’s a patriot, I’m sure,” Giuliani said. “What I’m saying is, in his rhetoric I very rarely hear the things that I used to hear Ronald Reagan say, the things that I used to hear Bill Clinton say about how much he loves America. ... I do hear him criticize America much more often than other American presidents. And when it’s not in the context of an overwhelming number of statements about the exceptionalism of America, it sounds like he’s more of a critic than he is a supporter.” Many right-wingers (of which I am not one) are sidetracked on "birther" arguments, that Obama is not a natural born American. I fully accept that he was born here and is constitutionally qualified to sit as President. What I have, over the last few years, had my doubts about is whether he is primarily an advocate for the United States, as his oath of office implicitly requires, or if his sees himself as a "world leader". Unfortunately, I think the latter. Obama was primarily raised in Indonesia and Kenya and did not learn in his formative years an American perspective.I think the U.S.'s greatness is measured by the level of opportunity it affords to those that have little but brains. I think it is a great country based upon the fact that whenever there's a natural disaster anywhere, the U.S. is there.In a recent article, Doug Patton writes (link to article, excerpts below):Such a moment of startling honesty came recently when Obama delivered what the mainstream media laughingly described as a "response" to Rep. Paul Ryan's common sense budget. What the speech really amounted to, of course, was simply a tired partisan kick-off of his 2012 re-election campaign. In it, Obama again stated his contempt for the nation that has given him so much. Consider this excerpt: or the first 189 years of our nation's existence we were not a great country? Is that what you are saying Mr. Obama? Until Franklin Roosevelt pushed through the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security in 1935 and Lyndon Johnson compounded the shell game with Medicare in 1965, we were — what? A mediocre country? An average country? Or perhaps, as your wife expressed during the campaign, we were "a downright mean country." Is that what you really believe about the United States of America? On other occasions, Obama himself has questioned American exceptionalism, stating (link): “I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism,” Obviously, it is Obama's first duty is to be an advocate for and promoter of the U.S. He is neither. He is, at best, a citizen of the world. At worst, he adheres to the U.S.'s enemies, giving them comfort, it not aid. Edited February 23, 2015 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Your welcome. Should be You're welcome. Not Your Welcome. Just annoying how people do this often. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 ....Obama's first duty is to be an advocate for and promoter of the U.S. He is neither. He is, at best, a citizen of the world. At worst, he adheres to the U.S.'s enemies, giving them comfort, it not aid. Hey...it happens. Senator and candidate Obama thought he could be bigger than the duties of his office, to shape and warp it to his world view. The world has slapped him and his team upside the head, caring little about the Nobel Peace Prize. President Carter got one too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jbg Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Should be You're welcome. Not Your Welcome. Just annoying how people do this often. Some people need to learn to write proper Canadian. Hey...it happens. Senator and candidate Obama thought he could be bigger than the duties of his office, to shape and warp it to his world view. The world has slapped him and his team upside the head, caring little about the Nobel Peace Prize. President Carter got one too. Carter = Obama. Both give comfort, if not aid to the enemies of the U.S. while adhering to them. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Bob Macadoo Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Some people need to learn to write proper Canadian. Carter = Obama. Both give comfort, if not aid to the enemies of the U.S. while adhering to them. I see you both have the satirical mind of an android. Curious. Well if you had a funny bone you would've seen it. Quote
Shady Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Ok whatever then man. Don't let me get in the way of your Obama bashing. WWWTT What Obama bashing? Quote
GostHacked Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 What Obama bashing? I'll take 'Not Accute Angles', for 500 Alex. Quote
Shady Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I'll take 'Not Accute Angles', for 500 Alex. Or dishonestly for $1000. I haven't even mentioned him in this thread. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 Or dishonestly for $1000. I haven't even mentioned him in this thread. I am talking about you being obtuse. But you knew that. I'm done. For now. Quote
Shady Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I am talking about you being obtuse. But you knew that. I'm done. For now. Ditto. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I'm glad you're both done because personal sniping isn't that interesting for the rest of us to read. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Shady Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 I'm glad you're both done because personal sniping isn't that interesting for the rest of us to read. I wasn't doing any sniping. I was just trying to figure out what the issue was. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 23, 2015 Report Posted February 23, 2015 OK. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCoastRunner Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Should be You're welcome. Not Your Welcome. Just annoying how people do this often. Right.... You are also the teacher. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
On Guard for Thee Posted February 26, 2015 Report Posted February 26, 2015 Right.... You are also the teacher. Of utmost importance to correct this linguistic scourge. Quote
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