Bill C-51: Federal Anti-Terror Legislation polling results

[drummindiver]

It was not prove in court that he acted alone is what I was trying to point out. No realistic thinker, including judge (Mosley) would conclude one kid pulled this off by himself. Evidence can be tricky though...recall the OJ trial.

Judges make errors all the time. That's why they have reviews, mistrials etc. This judge had no proof. Nobody else was indicted. Nobody else was charged. The only proven charge was against him, and him alone.

Again, another conspiracy.

[On Guard for Thee]

You've been flogging that dead horse for over a year now.....the opposition parties moved on a long time ago. I feel for you though - they call it cognitive dissonance - repeating things so often that you really start to believe them. Better stick with the Duffy trial - surely there's a conspiracy for you that reaches all the way to Harper......hope you're not too disappointed!

Not disappointed in the least little buddy, there are no shortage of scandals with Stevie around.

[eyeball]

What sort of nonsensical reply is this?

You think I have done something to warrant a terrorist wanting to kill me?

Don't know what you've done if your conscience is bothering you to the point that you believe terrorists are warranted in their desire to kill anybody.

The only thing wearing on my conscience is that I've been unable to sway the thinking of enough people to consider how much our actions in the past have contributed to the mess we're all in today.

I can't speak for you but I haven't openly or willingly supported governments bent on ignoring our past crimes while committing new ones so...I don't deserve to be attacked at all.

[drummindiver]

The only thing wearing on my conscience is that I've been unable to sway the thinking of enough people to consider how much our actions in the past have contributed to the mess we're all in today.

I can't speak for you but I haven't openly or willingly supported governments bent on ignoring our past crimes while committing new ones so...I don't deserve to be attacked at all.

So, because I may have/have not supported a past government, you feel I am culpable, and therefore it is open season on me?

Wow.

What crimes, specifically, warrant my death, errr, warrant?

Is this like a religious thing, if I denounce all political affiliations you and the terrorists oppose, I will be forgiven and then granted immunity from everlasting pain and suffering?

[drummindiver]

Not disappointed in the least little buddy, there are no shortage of scandals with Stevie around.

lol...another oblivious Liberal

[jacee]

Unions are not allowed to block access.

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/ei/digest/8_6_0.shtml

Native ppl blocked publicly funded roads in Caledonia. The police did not allow protesters to march on public roads. Again, you want your rights when you want them, but you don't want them applied to others.

Yeah, drivel to you. And you call Harper a dictator.

You are talking about a weeny tiny road to nowhere and idiots making a spectacle of themselves rolling in the mud wailing and crying and holding onto a Canadian flag until they tear it to pieces.

Pathetic.

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Edited April 3, 2015 by jacee

[On Guard for Thee]

lol...another oblivious Liberal

That sounds like your typical conservative talking point. Did Stevie give you that one...LOL

[drummindiver]

You are talking about a weeny tiny road to nowhere and idiots making a spectacle of themselves rolling in the mud wailing and crying and holding onto a Canadian flag until they tear it to pieces.

Pathetic.

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lol. Pathetic? You are crying and screaming and demanding your rights, admittedly when police cars are burning, but denounce and belittle anybody else's.

Jacee, what matter where the road is, or how big? Is that really your argument?

Why are they idiots, demanding their rights, when you are a glorious defender of all that is holy, when demanding yours?

This is the apex of hypocrisy.

Again, in case you don't understand....you want your rights, when you want them. Everybody else's rights don't matter to you, therefore they shouldn't matter to us or the law.. This is called hypocritical.

Pathetic times infinity...and beyond.

[eyeball]

So, because I may have/have not supported a past government, you feel I am culpable, and therefore it is open season on me?

Wow.

What crimes, specifically, warrant my death, errr, warrant?

What's so shocking about the idea that people in a democracy are responsible for the actions of their governments, don't you believe that? I have no idea what you specifically deserve, I'll leave that determination up to a Truth, Reconciliation and Reparation process.

Is this like a religious thing, if I denounce all political affiliations you and the terrorists oppose, I will be forgiven and then granted immunity from everlasting pain and suffering?

It's a principled thing. If you denounce all the affiliations with people and institutions that keep pouring gasoline on the ME and much of the surrounding region then you might start making a better difference in the world.

[drummindiver]

What's so shocking about the idea that people in a democracy are responsible for the actions of their governments, don't you believe that? I have no idea what you specifically deserve, I'll leave that determination up to a Truth, Reconciliation and Reparation process.

It's a principled thing. If you denounce all the affiliations with people and institutions that keep pouring gasoline on the ME and much of the surrounding region then you might start making a better difference in the world.

Ok. I denounce all association with Islamist terrorist.

I feel better already.

[eyeball]

Ok. I denounce all association with Islamist terrorist.

I feel better already.

Finally, this guy wrote something I agree with.

[drummindiver]

What's so shocking?

Nothing, I guess.

I'm from Canada...which democracy are you from. Obviously not the same as mine, otherwise you also would be culpable.

Regardless, I don't believe either of us have done anything to warrant terrorism being inflicted upon us.

Regardless of the democracy you're from.

[Keepitsimple]

Not disappointed in the least little buddy, there are no shortage of scandals with Stevie around.

LOL - you just keep proving my point over and over - not an original thought in your head - just those same shallow, tired one-liners!

Edited April 3, 2015 by Keepitsimple

[On Guard for Thee]

LOL - you just keep proving my point over and over - not an original thought in your head - just those same shallow, tired one-liners!

Would you like a list of Harper scandals, or are you on ignore mode.

[Keepitsimple]

Would you like a list of Harper scandals, or are you on ignore mode.

Listing your faux scandals and tempests in teapots is not "an original thought".......and just continues to prove my point - again!

[eyeball]

What's so shocking?

Nothing, I guess.

I'm from Canada...which democracy are you from. Obviously not the same as mine, otherwise you also would be culpable.

Regardless, I don't believe either of us have done anything to warrant terrorism being inflicted upon us.

Regardless of the democracy you're from.

I'm only from Earth.

I guess I might be culpable to the extent that I haven't taken up arms against the people and governments who've been antagonizing Islamic regions of the planet to the point of madness.

I know I haven't done anything to deserve being retaliated against but how are our attackers to tell me apart from people who do? It's not like we wear uniforms. I think I have a pretty good idea how it feels to be a human shield...I just hope I don't get to experience what it's like to be collateral damage.

Edited April 3, 2015 by eyeball

[drummindiver]

I'm only from Earth.

I guess I might be culpable to the extent that I haven't taken up arms against the people and governments who've been antagonizing Islamic regions of the planet to the point of madness.

I know I haven't done anything to deserve being retaliated against but how are our attackers to tell me apart from people who do? It's not like we wear uniforms. I think I have a pretty good idea how it feels to be a human shield...I just hope I don't get to experience what it's like to be collateral damage.

"Antagonizing Islamic regions to the point of madness."

Sorry, I had to write it out myself, see if my computer would self destruct in an act of rebellion against stupidity.

Seriously bud, Islamic regions have not needed any help to reach "madness" levels. In fact, they passed that years ago and are currently at the stupendously whack level. All without any help whatsoever from the outside world. .

Anyways, just so I have it right. I deserve to die in a 'orrible fiery abyss, whilst you, you are pure of heart and action, and will by pass said fiery abyss. Obviously, you Muslim, therefore good. Me Infidel, so bad.

Yes, armed resistance against democratically elected government to oppose imagined injustices against the pure warriors of the Islamic world makes perfect sense. If you're a moron.

[Keepitsimple]

I'm only from Earth.

I guess I might be culpable to the extent that I haven't taken up arms against the people and governments who've been antagonizing Islamic regions of the planet to the point of madness.

Somewhere - but not Earth.....you've missed the fact that these antagonized Islamic regions are killing their own by the tens of thousands.....is that what we've done to them - forced them to turn on each other? With your attitude, chances are your neighbours will put you out of your misery before the terrorists get you!

[On Guard for Thee]

Listing your faux scandals and tempests in teapots is not "an original thought".......and just continues to prove my point - again!

Right, they are faux scandals only when Harper is guilty. You keep on proving my point. Makes it easy.

[eyeball]

Anyways, just so I have it right. I deserve to die in a 'orrible fiery abyss, whilst you, you are pure of heart and action, and will by pass said fiery abyss. Obviously, you Muslim, therefore good. Me Infidel, so bad.

No, I'm not a Muslim.

Yes, armed resistance against democratically elected government to oppose imagined injustices against the pure warriors of the Islamic world makes perfect sense. If you're a moron.

I'm sorry but only a moron would imagine that's what I said. Go read it again and try to make a little more sense when you get back to me.

And exactly what imagined injustices are you taking about?

[eyeball]

Somewhere - but not Earth.....you've missed the fact that these antagonized Islamic regions are killing their own by the tens of thousands.....is that what we've done to them - forced them to turn on each other?

We helped create the power vacuums and niches extremists needed to take hold, then we poured gasoline all over the place and threw a match on it.

With your attitude, chances are your neighbours will put you out of your misery before the terrorists get you!

There's a few who might but I live in a generally left-leaning region. Given how Harper and you right-wingers have gone out of your way to use this stupid war to divide people I won't be at all surprised if Canadians like you start authorizing the state to kill off people like me before this is over. I wouldn't put it past you for a minute.

You should be more careful about what you wish for.l

Edited April 4, 2015 by eyeball

[drummindiver]

"I guess I may be culpable in that I haven't taken up arms against the people and governments who've been antagonizing Islamic regions of the planet to the point of madness".

So, Eyeball, tell me how I misinterpreted your statement?

And we've escalated to the paranoid fact of you thinking right wingers are out to get you.

And your assertion that we've created a vacuum sounds really impressive. It's like street gangs though. You still have to be a thug to fill the vacuum after the gang squad arrests the first set of thugs.

Vacuums do not make terrorists.

Ideology creates them, and has been creating them for many years.

And the only gasoline anyone threw, is to be non-believers.

And Infidels.

[eyeball]

So, Eyeball, tell me how I misinterpreted your statement?

You seem to think I'm going to take up arms.

And we've escalated to the paranoid fact of you thinking right wingers are out to get you.

We're escalating, we're not all the way there yet but given how you right-wingers interpret things it probably won't be long. I mean, my own government is publicly saying I stand with the Jihadists.

your assertion that we've created a vacuum sounds really impressive. It's like street gangs though. You still have to be a thug to fill the vacuum after the gang squad arrests the first set of thugs.

Vacuums do not make terrorists.

Ideology creates them, and has been creating them for many years.

No, it's more like the multi-generational dysfunction one sees in families that have suffered years of violent institutionalized abuse where the abused often turned into abusers themselves.

And the only gasoline anyone threw, is to be non-believers.

And Infidels.

No they're burning in the gasoline thrown by violent abusive institutions interested in oil, power, wealth and the geo-strategic fantasies fueling their desires. Edited April 4, 2015 by eyeball

[Big Guy]

I believe a vacuum is created by some outside force changing a part of a country to where there is no governing structure, no law and no order. Under those conditions, groups who thrive on lack of public order or repercussions for illegal violent acts then take power. It takes time to create a governing structure which will be acceptable to the people. It takes no time for the violent and unlawful to take control of the area.

I agree with eyeball, if any outside force destroys a governing structure then they have the responsibility to stay and support the will of the people to create their own structure. Leaving after a "victory" creates a void that is quickly filled by the strongest and most violent.

[Michael Hardner]

I believe a vacuum is created by some outside force changing a part of a country to where there is no governing structure, no law and no order.

Sorry, but I'm confused - didn't Iraq have a government when the US left ?

I agree with eyeball, if any outside force destroys a governing structure then they have the responsibility to stay and support the will of the people to create their own structure. Leaving after a "victory" creates a void that is quickly filled by the strongest and most violent.

Weren't we calling for the US to pull out of Iraq ? This is damned-if-you-do-pull-out-damned-if-you-don't-pull-out it seems to me.