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[Topaz]

Well, if Harper's supporters are like HIM, I really feel sorry for them but I hope they are smarter than he and see all the things he has said and done, and still doing, especially Bill C-51, which really goes after more Canadians than terrorist....but hey, under Bill C-51 anyone against the gas and oil sector and protest is considered a terrorist!

[Keepitsimple]

Well, if Harper's supporters are like HIM, I really feel sorry for them but I hope they are smarter than he and see all the things he has said and done, and still doing, especially Bill C-51, which really goes after more Canadians than terrorist....but hey, under Bill C-51 anyone against the gas and oil sector and protest is considered a terrorist!

Hey - be careful what you wish for - if all the C-51 supporters and all the people in favour of the no-Niqab-for-the-Oath vote for Harper, we'll end up with the biggest mother of a majority of all time.

[Black Dog]

Hey - be careful what you wish for - if all the C-51 supporters and all the people in favour of the no-Niqab-for-the-Oath vote for Harper, we'll end up with the biggest mother of a majority of all time.

Pretty sure the Venn diagram of those two groups is a circle.

[TimG]

That's it. All the stuff about the niqab being antithetical to Canadian values is a mere afterthought designed to whip up the base and keep the cash rolling in.

Try reading your own quote:

This is not simply a practical measure. It is a matter of deep principle that goes to the heart of our identity and our values of openness and equality. The citizenship oath is a quintessentially public act. It is a public declaration that you are joining the Canadian family and it must be taken freely and openly.

Edited March 12, 2015 by TimG

[Black Dog]

Try reading your own quote:

Which has **** all to do with what the niqab itself represents. He could be talking about any face covering. the point was entirely about seeing the person making the oath: that's the "values" he's talking about respecting.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Michael Hardner
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[cybercoma]

Yeah those SC justices are just a bunch of nut bars for sure.

They're also politically left appointees of Harper. *shrugs*

Clearly the poster doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

[cybercoma]

This is disgusting. If we go to a Muslim country women must adhere to their rules but apparently they can come to Canada and tell us how it is. Just disgusting.

Who's telling YOU anything? Nobody's telling you how to live your life or what you can wear. You on the otherhand......

[cybercoma]

Your store is private property so you can let in who you like.

That's not true.

[On Guard for Thee]

That's not true.

Even a mall is private property.

[Shady]

Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you.

[On Guard for Thee]

Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you.

And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want.

[TimG]

And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want.

So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?

[On Guard for Thee]

So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?

Im no fan of racism if thats where you are trying to go, but the law is to be applied equally.

[LemonPureLeaf]

Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you.

Exactly. They'd be happier elsewhere. I urge people yo tell people how they feel to their faces and not just on an internet forum.

[On Guard for Thee]

Exactly. They'd be happier elsewhere. I urge people yo tell people how they feel to their faces and not just on an internet forum.

So they emigrated to Canada so as to be less happy...where do you come up with this nonsense I shudder to even think.

[LemonPureLeaf]

Our societal values have nothing to do with Muslim extremism culture. Any women who is wearing a full face veil, forced or not, is an extremist. A fundamentalist. A Muslim who believes in a literal Koran. This isn't welcome in Canada.

[Bob Macadoo]

So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?

Sure so long as they are willing to shoulder the monumentous scorn to be heaped upon them by you.

[Black Dog]

So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?

I'd find that offensive. Not sure it should be against the law, though. The right to offend doesn't just cover anti-Mohammed cartoons y'know.

[jacee]

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"As a result, I believe that these funds can be put to better use helping those whose rights have been forfeited and stories left untold."

[jacee]

Shady, on 12 Mar 2015 - 11:14 PM, said:

Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you.

And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want.

But you can't 'force' your opinion on someone and demand that they change their behaviour, of course.

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Edited March 13, 2015 by jacee

[LemonPureLeaf]

But you can't 'force' your opinion on someone and demand that they change their behaviour.

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Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack.

If the Muslims do any of these things that are illegal they will be arrested and perhaps deported. We don't need people who won't embrace our values and way of life.

We cannot force Muslims to not perform honour killings or not to treat their wives or wife like property. Nor can we force the Muslims to not kill cartoonists or bomb embassies. You're right.

[The_Squid]

How many people in favour of the niqab would be ok with a KKK hood or a swastika armband?

All are offensive. The only difference is who is offended.

Are the KKK and Nazis allowed to wear their garb? Are there any laws banning the practice?

[guyser]

Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack.

No they dont.

Of course they would be better off telling them there are a large group of morons and idiots who will tell them all sorts of crap, most of which isnt true.

And tell them the easiest way to identify those who do is to ask them to spell 'xenophobic' , when they cant , youll know who they are.

Edited March 13, 2015 by Guyser2

[On Guard for Thee]

Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack.

If the Muslims do any of these things that are illegal they will be arrested and perhaps deported. We don't need people who won't embrace our values and way of life.

We cannot force Muslims to not perform honour killings or not to treat their wives or wife like property. Nor can we force the Muslims to not kill cartoonists or bomb embassies. You're right.

Just like we cant force a bank a bank robber not to shoot the teller, but we jail them. This thread is about a woman being allowed to wear her headgear, remember...

[jacee]

So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?

Interesting question.

Is the KKK a legal group in Canada, or is it banned as a hate group?

I know it is on the RCMP security watchlist, and CSIS has been involved in 'disruption' of white supremacist groups.

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