Topaz Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Well, if Harper's supporters are like HIM, I really feel sorry for them but I hope they are smarter than he and see all the things he has said and done, and still doing, especially Bill C-51, which really goes after more Canadians than terrorist....but hey, under Bill C-51 anyone against the gas and oil sector and protest is considered a terrorist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Well, if Harper's supporters are like HIM, I really feel sorry for them but I hope they are smarter than he and see all the things he has said and done, and still doing, especially Bill C-51, which really goes after more Canadians than terrorist....but hey, under Bill C-51 anyone against the gas and oil sector and protest is considered a terrorist! Hey - be careful what you wish for - if all the C-51 supporters and all the people in favour of the no-Niqab-for-the-Oath vote for Harper, we'll end up with the biggest mother of a majority of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hey - be careful what you wish for - if all the C-51 supporters and all the people in favour of the no-Niqab-for-the-Oath vote for Harper, we'll end up with the biggest mother of a majority of all time. Pretty sure the Venn diagram of those two groups is a circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) That's it. All the stuff about the niqab being antithetical to Canadian values is a mere afterthought designed to whip up the base and keep the cash rolling in.Try reading your own quote: This is not simply a practical measure. It is a matter of deep principle that goes to the heart of our identity and our values of openness and equality. The citizenship oath is a quintessentially public act. It is a public declaration that you are joining the Canadian family and it must be taken freely and openly. Edited March 12, 2015 by TimG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Try reading your own quote: Which has **** all to do with what the niqab itself represents. He could be talking about any face covering. the point was entirely about seeing the person making the oath: that's the "values" he's talking about respecting. Edited March 13, 2015 by Michael Hardner profanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah those SC justices are just a bunch of nut bars for sure.They're also politically left appointees of Harper. *shrugs* Clearly the poster doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 This is disgusting. If we go to a Muslim country women must adhere to their rules but apparently they can come to Canada and tell us how it is. Just disgusting.Who's telling YOU anything? Nobody's telling you how to live your life or what you can wear. You on the otherhand...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Your store is private property so you can let in who you like.That's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That's not true. Even a mall is private property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you. And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want.So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in? Im no fan of racism if thats where you are trying to go, but the law is to be applied equally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you. Exactly. They'd be happier elsewhere. I urge people yo tell people how they feel to their faces and not just on an internet forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Exactly. They'd be happier elsewhere. I urge people yo tell people how they feel to their faces and not just on an internet forum. So they emigrated to Canada so as to be less happy...where do you come up with this nonsense I shudder to even think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Our societal values have nothing to do with Muslim extremism culture. Any women who is wearing a full face veil, forced or not, is an extremist. A fundamentalist. A Muslim who believes in a literal Koran. This isn't welcome in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in? Sure so long as they are willing to shoulder the monumentous scorn to be heaped upon them by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in? I'd find that offensive. Not sure it should be against the law, though. The right to offend doesn't just cover anti-Mohammed cartoons y'know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 rania-el-alloul-declines-50k-crowdfunded-donation "The awareness raised by this campaign has brought us people from all over, who have offered support to carry this issue forward," El-Alloul wrote. "As a result, I believe that these funds can be put to better use helping those whose rights have been forfeited and stories left untold." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Shady, on 12 Mar 2015 - 11:14 PM, said: Personally, if somebody insists on covering their face when taking the oath of citizenship, I don't think Canada is the country for you. And there you have one of the many beauties of Canada, you can think, and pretty much say, whatever you want. But you can't 'force' your opinion on someone and demand that they change their behaviour, of course.. . Edited March 13, 2015 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 But you can't 'force' your opinion on someone and demand that they change their behaviour. . Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack.If the Muslims do any of these things that are illegal they will be arrested and perhaps deported. We don't need people who won't embrace our values and way of life. We cannot force Muslims to not perform honour killings or not to treat their wives or wife like property. Nor can we force the Muslims to not kill cartoonists or bomb embassies. You're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 How many people in favour of the niqab would be ok with a KKK hood or a swastika armband? All are offensive. The only difference is who is offended. Are the KKK and Nazis allowed to wear their garb? Are there any laws banning the practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack.No they dont. Of course they would be better off telling them there are a large group of morons and idiots who will tell them all sorts of crap, most of which isnt true. And tell them the easiest way to identify those who do is to ask them to spell 'xenophobic' , when they cant , youll know who they are. Edited March 13, 2015 by Guyser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Canada must tell Muslims before they come here that in Canada honour killing is not allowed. Neither is female circumcision or killing cartoonists. Nor do we force women to wear a face veil or a body sack. If the Muslims do any of these things that are illegal they will be arrested and perhaps deported. We don't need people who won't embrace our values and way of life. We cannot force Muslims to not perform honour killings or not to treat their wives or wife like property. Nor can we force the Muslims to not kill cartoonists or bomb embassies. You're right. Just like we cant force a bank a bank robber not to shoot the teller, but we jail them. This thread is about a woman being allowed to wear her headgear, remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So you have no problem with someone wearing KKK hood for the swearing in?Interesting question.Is the KKK a legal group in Canada, or is it banned as a hate group? I know it is on the RCMP security watchlist, and CSIS has been involved in 'disruption' of white supremacist groups. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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