Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 I don't share this because of my personal experience with Muslims, who seem to assimilate at the same rate as everybody else. Pakistanis who drink, have tattoos and date non-religious, ie. white people, who don't seem to care one way or the other about anything beyond basic morality. Then there's my experience with Arab Muslims, which is the same. But that's anecdotal I admit. Yes, it is. I remind you that a number of those Muslim extremists who went on to commit terrorist acts seemed to have no particular issue with drinking, smoking, having sex outside of marriage (with infidels) etc. A girl I know once lived with a Lebanese drug dealer. He had no problems with drinking, smoking and fornicating, to say nothing of dealing in drugs and illegally possessing weapons. But when it came time to get married, he dumped her and married a girl from Lebanon who wore a veil because she was "proper Muslim woman". Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Yes, it is. I remind you that a number of those Muslim extremists who went on to commit terrorist acts seemed to have no particular issue with drinking, smoking, having sex outside of marriage (with infidels) etc. A girl I know once lived with a Lebanese drug dealer. He had no problems with drinking, smoking and fornicating, to say nothing of dealing in drugs and illegally possessing weapons. But when it came time to get married, he dumped her and married a girl from Lebanon who wore a veil because she was "proper Muslim woman". Nothing like responding to an anecdote with an anecdote I guess. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 Oh, please. We both know how full shit that is. You become enraged whenever anyone tries to discuss immigration policy and, lacking the intelligence to discuss it you instantly resort to insults in hopes that will shut down the discussion.Why don't you just leave? Go over to rabble, where conservatives aren't allowed to post and you won't feel so much distress by reading opinions you disagree with?Another crybaby post where you call me an idiot with no repercussions.Grow up and act your age. The only one throwing fits here is you because you don't like that people point out your bigoted bullshit for what it really is. Tell me more about the useless sacks of cloth and their filthy backwards culture. Trudeau's words to Peter Kent are pretty apt to describe you. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 Cybor filling this place up with muslims ,with our laws ,they will be running the place. Trudeau has come back to haunt us. And I dont think anyone was thinking face coverings when these laws were made. There is no need for that crap to come here. And yes you are bitter when someone does not agree with you."filing this place up with Muslims" is nothing more than your paranoid fantasy. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 I consider someone extreme if they belong to that school of religious thought which says women have to cover themselves completely and hide away from society. I'm pretty sure all the rest of the extreme views go along with that. I doubt, for example, you would want to hear the woman's views on homosexuals or womens rights or Jews.Were you literally spitting at the screen when you wrote that? I imagine you with your eyes bugging out, your hair standing on end, and your fingers pounding the keyboard in a rage.Your posts get stupider and more bitter with every passing day.l can see how you would consider yourself rational and me emotional here. I post facts and you think that's spitting with rage. You offer nothing but bigoted rants against the "mongrel outsiders" and think that passes for reason. Go read about this case, you sad uninformed fool. She wasn't forced into anything nor was she covered head to toe in a "cloth sack" as you so ignorantly described. I know you're too simple minded to get it but not all Muslims fit your ignorant stereotypes. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 That's the theory, which is why I don't like it when non-elected judges make laws.judges don't make laws, but a super intelligent guy like you probably knows that. Quote
kungfuthug Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) I think that if I was her I would have just taken it off to get into this great country. I am not as brave as her. I am proud of what is she is fighting for and she has the right to wear what she wants. I hope the best for her and her family in Canada. Edited February 18, 2015 by kungfuthug Quote
poochy Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 It's not even relevant to this case, considering this woman chooses freely to wear the Niqab. More importantly, the study that I posted earlier in response to you shows that many Muslim women wear them against their families' wishes as well. Argus doesn't see that and doesn't care. All he cares is that Muslims are a mongrel race of people that are polluting his pure white christian nation. You believe that women, choose freely to wear a Niqab, how many women who haven't converted for the purpose of marrying a Muslim man are wearing one? Is it going to become the next fashion craze? 'hey ladies, here it is, the first name in subjugation, we all know you want to wear one for no particular reason, the Niqab!' Sure, i wonder how many of you who so fervently protect this practice also had the thought cross their minds that income splitting is just a ploy to put women back in the home . Or maybe not, anyway, i wonder what other types of subjugation you will support if we can come up with a plausible explanation that the subjugated isn't allowing or volunteering simply as being a part of or being indoctrinated into a 'women are lesser beings' culture. I think it's sad when i see say Pentecostal women dressed head to toe in the summer heat, i don't think we should force them to wear shorts, but i won't defend the culture that enforces those other rules upon them, nor will I pretend that it is something other than forced, or learned through the force of cultural subjugation, where the abnormal becomes normal. I don't think i much care either way, but some of you will only be satisfied when the county no longer exists in anything resembling it's original form, liberal guilt i suppose, so you absolutely defend anything you see as different than the predominately western European, Christian Canada, but the hypocrisy some of you show about which rights you need to defend only provide further evidence at the utter brokenness of the ideology you cling to, Anyway, keep telling yourself that you know best, keep telling yourself about these fundamental rights that don't actually exist, you've got it all figured out, there there. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 You believe that women, choose freely to wear a Niqab, how many women who haven't converted for the purpose of marrying a Muslim man are wearing one? Is it going to become the next fashion craze? 'hey ladies, here it is, the first name in subjugation, we all know you want to wear one for no particular reason, the Niqab!' Sure, i wonder how many of you who so fervently protect this practice also had the thought cross their minds that income splitting is just a ploy to put women back in the home . Or maybe not, anyway, i wonder what other types of subjugation you will support if we can come up with a plausible explanation that the subjugated isn't allowing or volunteering simply as being a part of or being indoctrinated into a 'women are lesser beings' culture. I think it's sad when i see say Pentecostal women dressed head to toe in the summer heat, i don't think we should force them to wear shorts, but i won't defend the culture that enforces those other rules upon them, nor will I pretend that it is something other than forced, or learned through the force of cultural subjugation, where the abnormal becomes normal. I don't think i much care either way, but some of you will only be satisfied when the county no longer exists in anything resembling it's original form, liberal guilt i suppose, so you absolutely defend anything you see as different than the predominately western European, Christian Canada, but the hypocrisy some of you show about which rights you need to defend only provide further evidence at the utter brokenness of the ideology you cling to, Anyway, keep telling yourself that you know best, keep telling yourself about these fundamental rights that don't actually exist, you've got it all figured out, there there. In one of the original forms pf this country, we used to take aboriginal children, put them into residential schools and let catholic priests bone them. With your kind of thinking wed still be back there. Quote
dre Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Orthodox Muslims consider oaths made to unbelievers to be without value and unenforceable. Doesnt matter. Our applies apply to everyone no matter which retarded skygod myth they believe in. And the reality is, that I have looked and I dont see any evidence that muslims disobey more laws or have a harder time integrating than immigrant groups have historically. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
On Guard for Thee Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 That's because you sympathize with his political stance and are at odds with me politically right off the bat. That's my guess anyways. Its more cultural than political. Also WCR is quite capable of cutting his or her own swath in any discussion. Quote
jacee Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Lol, I'm not mad at all...I just love having fun and talking shit to people on here. It's fun. I do it person too all the time to those Muslim women who wear face coverings. I've made them cry a few times in Bramelea City Cnetre. I chase them telling them This is Canada! Don't you know where you are you Muslim cunt! It's hilarious and makes me hard to be mean to people like that. I love it. I love having powwer over them. The Muslims think we should be scared of them but I make sure they're afraid of me. And here we have Capt Canada's own brand of homegrown terrorism. Are there no cops in Bramalea City Centre? Capt Canada's brand of terrorism is definitely "cultural". Kudos to WCR & OGFT for outing the beast. . Quote
Charles Anthony Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Folks, Posts have been deleted. If you can not find your post in this thread, it is because you chose to respond to trolling. The thread is open again. Feel free to carry on by following the forum rules and guidelines. Ch. A. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
PIK Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 They can wear what ever they want, but no to face coverings. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
jacee Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 They can wear what ever they want, but no to face coverings. Yes they can. Quote
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Nothing like responding to an anecdote with an anecdote I guess. Why not? But it wasn't all anecdote. As I pointed out a number of terrorists had no problems with drinking and womanizing. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Another crybaby post where you call me an idiot with no repercussions.Grow up and act your age. The only one throwing fits here is you because you don't like that people point out your bigoted bullshit for what it really is. Tell me more about the useless sacks of cloth and their filthy backwards culture. Trudeau's words to Peter Kent are pretty apt to describe you. I could talk about them, but it's evident you're much more interested in talking about me. And that's how all of our discussions on these sorts of issues go. I talk about a government policy, give my opinion on it, and provide cites. You talk about me and how you see my moral failings. That's all you do. You have nothing to contribute on the actual subjects at hand so you resort to insults. What a sad little man you are. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 l can see how you would consider yourself rational and me emotional here. I post facts and you think that's spitting with rage. You offer nothing but bigoted rants against the "mongrel outsiders" and think that passes for reason. Go read about this case, you sad uninformed fool. She wasn't forced into anything nor was she covered head to toe in a "cloth sack" as you so ignorantly described. I know you're too simple minded to get it but not all Muslims fit your ignorant stereotypes. You're so ignorant you can't even see that her not being forced to wear the veil is nothing but further evidence of her extremism. The laughable thing about the PC Fascists like you is you become enraged whenever a White person dissaproves of any minority, but you could not care less what amount of bigotry, homophobia and hate arise from those minority members. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 judges don't make laws, but a super intelligent guy like you probably knows that. They make laws when they re-write laws, but I know that won't bother you since you don't believe in democracy. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 I think that if I was her I would have just taken it off to get into this great country. I am not as brave as her. I am proud of what is she is fighting for and she has the right to wear what she wants. I hope the best for her and her family in Canada. No doubt they can hold Canada Day Barbecues with the Khadr family... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
GostHacked Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 It seems to me that a woman wearing a niaqab is demonstrating her extremism. Of course, that would defend on how YOU define extremism. So wearing one is a form of extremism? Or are you referring to the burka? Quote
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Doesnt matter. Our applies apply to everyone no matter which retarded skygod myth they believe in. And the reality is, that I have looked and I dont see any evidence that muslims disobey more laws or have a harder time integrating than immigrant groups have historically. And what evidence would you expect to find? We don't keep statistics based on religion or race (except for natives). If there were tons of Muslms being arrested for sex crimes, say, you wouldn't find evidence of it. If their unemployment rate was higher, or the rate of spousal abuse higher, you wouldn't know it. If they refused to let their kids attend sex ed classes or take swimming lessons, or ballet, or whatever, there'd be no stats on it. Edited February 18, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) So wearing one is a form of extremism? Or are you referring to the burka? Look, if I see a biker wearing Hells Angels colours, I have a pretty good idea what sort of person he is. If I see a Hassidic Jew in black, with pigtails, I have a reasonably good notion of his cultural values. If I see a bedsheet moving down the sidewalk, it's not a big leap to suppose that this is a VERY religious Muslim who hails from the orthodox school. And that orthodox school has a hell of a lot more social baggage than just costumes for women. I'm reminded of when the NDP recruited the wife of Mayer Arar's wife to run for them federally. It was like "Oh, look at us how liberal we are!" Then someone asked this niquab wearing woman what she thought of the NDPs gay rights stance. Well, of course, she was completely opposed and said she would under no circumstances support it. It would have been astonishing if a niquab wearing woman would have taken any other position. You don't wear the niquab without falling in line with all the rigid orthodox Muslim beliefs, including Sharia law, beliefs which, by almost any yardstick, we would label as extremist in Canada. And by the way, if the population of Hassidic Jews, or for that matter, Haradi Jews were doubling in population every ten years in Canada I would be equally unhappy. Edited February 18, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 What is the "oath"? A pointless ritual? Should people be allowed to say the oath in the nude? I was buck-ass naked the moment I became a citizen. Quote
overthere Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Look, if I see a biker wearing Hells Angels colours, I have a pretty good idea what sort of person he is. If I see a Hassidic Jew in black, with pigtails, I have a reasonably good notion of his cultural values. If I see a bedsheet moving down the sidewalk, it's not a big leap to suppose that this is a VERY religious Muslim who hails from the orthodox school. And that orthodox school has a hell of a lot more social baggage than just costumes for women. I'm reminded of when the NDP recruited the wife of Mayer Arar's wife to run for them federally. It was like "Oh, look at us how liberal we are!" Then someone asked this niquab wearing woman what she thought of the NDPs gay rights stance. Well, of course, she was completely opposed and said she would under no circumstances support it. It would have been astonishing if a niquab wearing woman would have taken any other position. You don't wear the niquab without falling in line with all the rigid orthodox Muslim beliefs, including Sharia law, beliefs which, by almost any yardstick, we would label as extremist in Canada. And by the way, if the population of Hassidic Jews, or for that matter, Haradi Jews were doubling in population every ten years in Canada I would be equally unhappy. so you are a big supporter of controlling the beliefs of groups? I'm a supporter of assessing actions. I don't give a shit what people think or believe. I do care about how they act. It is grotesque to assess people by their affiliations, and through some thoughtful intervention called the Constitution there is barely a lick of law in this country to support you. All this lady is required to do is obey Canadian law. And covering her face does not break any law, nor does it threaten me in any way. I do hope you keep your bizarre fears to yourself and not act out on them other than talking, which you have the right to do. That is what Canada is about Argus. LOve it or leave it. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
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