Keepitsimple Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Trudeau apologists claim that Harper's actions have put us in the crosshairs of ISIS. That theory took a thrashing recently as two Japanese nationals had their heads chopped off one after the other. We're talking about Japan - a country that is not militarily involved in the Middle East.....a country that recently pledged a further $2.5 billion in humanitarian and developmental aid to the entire region. And yet......two citizens are kidnapped, beheaded, and used in sick, demented propaganda videos. Only the lame of mind would deny that ISIS has declared war on the West. Imagine if those Japanese citizens were Canadians! Just try and imagine it......because there's a good chance it will happen. Edited February 1, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
GostHacked Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I really like this pic. Seems like it was a green screen job. The shadows on the two men in orange are on opposite sides of their heads. I've done better green screen work. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 I really like this pic. Seems like it was a green screen job. The shadows on the two men in orange are on opposite sides of their heads. I've done better green screen work. Or the video was shot with a wide angle zoom.........of course, when watching the video, one can see a breeze ruffling all three of their clothes, at the same time........ Quote
GostHacked Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Or the video was shot with a wide angle zoom.........of course, when watching the video, one can see a breeze ruffling all three of their clothes, at the same time........ The lense has no effect on the shadows produced by multiple light sources. And even wind can be faked via green screen. Get me a fan. Edited February 1, 2015 by GostHacked Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) The lense has no effect on the shadows produced by multiple light sources. And even wind can be faked via green screen. Get me a fan. Well yeah, it does change perspective, likewise both hostages being slightly turned inwards.........and can be done with a cheapo camera bought from a drugstore. Edited February 1, 2015 by Derek 2.0 Quote
eyeball Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Only the lame of mind would deny that ISIS has declared war on the West. Of course they've declared war on us, who could blame them. The only people in a state of confusion here are right wingers who can't figure out what we did to deserve it. Imagine if those Japanese citizens were Canadians! Just try and imagine it......because there's a good chance it will happen.Just in time to give Harper a nice boost, which explains why our troops have been ordered to get as close to the front as possible. Edited February 1, 2015 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Keepitsimple Posted February 1, 2015 Author Report Posted February 1, 2015 Of course they've declared war on us, who could blame them. The only people in a state of confusion here are right wingers who can't figure out what we did to deserve it. And what has Japan done? Quote Back to Basics
eyeball Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Joined the West apparently. Isn't that what you alluded to in your post? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WIP Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 This thread needs to be retitled: The Folly of the George Bush/Neocon Approach! Without regime change theory and propping up corrupt Arab monarchs, there wouldn't be an ISIS in the first place! But, leave it to the right wing idiots, who want to stir up crap all over the world, for demanding more wars, more money for military budgets, and more suppression of our freedoms and surveillance on us! Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
Topaz Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 First of all, I want to say, I"m sorry the world has fallen so far down that this is what our world has become, death, unrest and so much violence. The Japanese journalist knew this would probably happen to him if he went and made a video says so. In a way, Justin is right, if the PM keeps threatening the terrorists, they are like teenagers, they will seek revenge to gain power. It also, seems, there's no peacekeepers left in the world and some will say one can't talk to terrorists, well one seems you can't talk to either side for the sake of peace. Harper always wanted to go to war some where, he appears to be a bully, always wanting his way and gets it no matter what he has to do. Harper peaches war not peace, not finding a way to bring peace to the world, war makes money for some. Quote
eyeball Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Yep. Notice as this war unfolds over time how our rxtremists are becoming as adicalized and insane as the enemies they've created. I'm betting Japan will emerge as a nation that's more capable of reflecting on the stupidity of continuing down the same path the rest of the west has chosen. I notice some of the Japanese mourners protesting the beheading of their poor countrymen holding up signs written in English that say No War and No More Killing. I suppose they might just be Japanese lefties but I think there's more to it than that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PrimeNumber Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 i was listening to Gormley, mostly for the lol's, but he made a comment that many Japanese people actually have the same thought process and are saying because the Prime Minister of Japan has now expressed his support for America and the Iraq War, they feel ISIS may attempt an attack within Japan next. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Big Guy Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Western intelligence at first looked at ISIS as "Junior Varsity". Pretty soon we realized that they may be better organized than what we thought. How can these ignorant, illiterate, bearded, turbaned, black clothed crazies ever be a threat to us? They may have the locals on their side but we are a lot smarter, more militarized, better organized and we have God on our side - are we not? It has been a few months now where the coalition of the major Western powers has managed to "blunt" the expansion of ISIS holdings. Guess what - these are bright, young, smart, energized, dedicated, techno conscious folks who have a zealots goal. They also understand the Western psyche very well. The more we bomb these guys, the more collateral deaths of civilians we cause, the more converts to get locally and from the rest of the world. Now, why are they creating sophisticated videos of beheadings and making sure they are seen around the world? Do you think that maybe they think that the outraged will become more outraged and perhaps escalate what we have been doing and creating more and more fanatics? History is filled with examples of a weaker enemy teasing and baiting a strong military force into falling into a trap. Those videos are the bait dangling in front of the coalition. We will probably continue and charge headlong into the trap. When those body bags start coming home then, and only then, will we be forced to sit back and think. Maybe Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya will finally open our eyes. Maybe not. We are being played like a fine fiddle. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Trudeau apologists claim that Harper's actions have put us in the crosshairs of ISIS. That theory took a thrashing recently as two Japanese nationals had their heads chopped off one after the other. We're talking about Japan - a country that is not militarily involved in the Middle East.....a country that recently pledged a further $2.5 billion in humanitarian and developmental aid to the entire region. And yet......two citizens are kidnapped, beheaded, and used in sick, demented propaganda videos. Only the lame of mind would deny that ISIS has declared war on the West. Imagine if those Japanese citizens were Canadians! Just try and imagine it......because there's a good chance it will happen. Only the lame of mind would allow themselves to be talked into such a conclusion without consulting the actual facts on what's REALLY happening with war and terrorism. Quote
poochy Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Just in time to give Harper a nice boost, which explains why our troops have been ordered to get as close to the front as possible. Yea, that's obviously the reason, you're just full of reasonable and knowledgeable posts. Quote
poochy Posted February 1, 2015 Report Posted February 1, 2015 Only the lame of mind would allow themselves to be talked into such a conclusion without consulting the actual facts on what's REALLY happening with war and terrorism. So, two Canadians killed by people inspired by ISIS, or islamic terorism, but it isn't possible that two Canadians could be killed by ISIS or it's followers, in a more gruesome fashion. Yea, that's impossible. You need a lame mind to make that jump Quote
Wilber Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 And what has Japan done? Joined the West apparently. Isn't that what you alluded to in your post OK then, what did Japan do? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
eyeball Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 They ran afoul of the crazy bastards we helped create - they got caught up in something they've had nothing to do with. Good on them for trying to provide humanitarian aid only, it's something we should be emulating. I'd hate to see Japan become galvanized into sending troops or planes into battle or announcing vast new sweeping powers for their police, intelligence and security forces. Convincing Japan to show that much support for the West would sort of be like Japan convincing Mongolia to become a member of the International Whaling Commission....which they did manage to do bizarre as that sounds so who knows what weird Machiavellian crap Japan's government is capable of. As I said I'm encouraged by the No War and Stop Killing signs on display at Japanese protests against ISIS' murdering their people. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 They ran afoul of the crazy bastards we helped create - they got caught up in something they've had nothing to do with. Good on them for trying to provide humanitarian aid only, it's something we should be emulating. Well...it's not like Japan has never beheaded prisoners. Not very humanitarian, eh ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 So, two Canadians killed by people inspired by ISIS, or islamic terorism, but it isn't possible that two Canadians could be killed by ISIS or it's followers, in a more gruesome fashion. Yea, that's impossible. You need a lame mind to make that jump Pretty hard to make heads or tails out of that statement. Quote
Wilber Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 They ran afoul of the crazy bastards we helped create - they got caught up in something they've had nothing to do with. Good on them for trying to provide humanitarian aid only, it's something we should be emulating. I'd hate to see Japan become galvanized into sending troops or planes into battle or announcing vast new sweeping powers for their police, intelligence and security forces. Convincing Japan to show that much support for the West would sort of be like Japan convincing Mongolia to become a member of the International Whaling Commission....which they did manage to do bizarre as that sounds so who knows what weird Machiavellian crap Japan's government is capable of. As I said I'm encouraged by the No War and Stop Killing signs on display at Japanese protests against ISIS' murdering their people. So whether a country is miltarily involved in this region has absolutely no bearing on what these assholes will do. Being nothing more than a humanitarian is enough to get you decapitated. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Smallc Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 They ran afoul of the crazy bastards we helped create So once again, it's all our fault. You need to get some nuance in your life, I think. Quote
eyeball Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 So whether a country is miltarily involved in this region has absolutely no bearing on what these assholes will do. Being nothing more than a humanitarian is enough to get you decapitated. Pretty sad alright. But still not sad enough to make you wish we'd just left sleeping dogs lay is it? You're just too radicalized for that. Like I said, pretty sad alright. Pretty sad all around. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Smallc Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 Pretty sad alright. But still not sad enough to make you wish we'd just left sleeping dogs lay is it? You're just too radicalized for that. The dogs were never sleeping in the middle east. Sorry, but this can't be pinned in the west. Quote
eyeball Posted February 2, 2015 Report Posted February 2, 2015 So once again, it's all our fault. You need to get some nuance in your life, I think. I got plenty of nuance and no not all of it's our fault but certainly enough to be charged as accomplices. What do you mean once again, we've done this before? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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