Smallc Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Ah ha ha.you've already told me the definition isn't broad enough so why bother? Yeah: because you consider it invalid. because...well, you never really bother with that part. I don't consider it a necessarily valid sociological concept. Appearance as an indicator of other traits, not appearance qua appearance . That's true. Edited January 27, 2015 by Smallc Quote
Black Dog Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 you've already told me the definition isn't broad wnoufh so why bother? That's bullshit. How could I say that about something I've not seen? I don't consider it a necessarily valid sociological concept. Yeah I got that. But you've never bothered to explain why. You just dismiss it out of hand. Quote
Smallc Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 That's bullshit. How could I say that about something I've not seen? You said it about the definition of racism. If I provide you with the definition of race what will that do? Yeah I got that. But you've never bothered to explain why. You just dismiss it out of hand. I don't subscribe to the liberal theory of the racist boogey man. I don't know what else to say about it. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 You said it about the definition of racism. And with good reason. I am leery of any attempt to boil complex ideas down to soundbites whether its racism itself or the very concept of race. If I provide you with the definition of race what will that do? It would give some substance to your argument. You've spent an inordinate amount of time quibbling about the definition of race in this thread and others. AFAIK, you have never provided one yourself. I know: I've looked. I don't subscribe to the liberal theory of the racist boogey man. I don't know what else to say about it. You seem to have lost the thread. We were talking about race as a social construct, not the theory of systemic racism. They are related, but independent concepts. I can understand why people might take issue with the latter, but questioning the existence or validity of the former as you have is unfathomable. Quote
Smallc Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 My point was there there are actually different concepts of race. Nothin is that simple. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Posted January 28, 2015 If #1 racist city wasn't enough....now there is poop in the municipal water supply ! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-wide-boil-water-advisory-in-place-1.2934088 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Lol it's funny watching Black Dog and cybercoma twist themselves into knots with the logically self-contradictory, untenable ideas of what racism is. Treating everyone the same regardless of their race... the new racism. Scratch that... everything is racism. It would be funnier if it wasn't so sad that so many people on the left really think this way. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Lol it's funny watching Black Dog and cybercoma twist themselves into knots with the logically self-contradictory, untenable ideas of what racism is. And I can't wait to see your devastating takedown which is coming any day now, I'm sure. I mean, otherwise, this is just a pathetic drive by post by some try hard desperate to add his two cents to a debate he wasn't involved in. Quote
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 It would be funnier if it wasn't so sad that so many people on the left really think this way. I think the day is coming and probably not too far off when racism takes a back seat to the gulf of hatred that's yawning between left wing and right wing. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cybercoma Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Treating everyone the same regardless of their race... the new racism.Being white means you have the privilege to be colourblind because your race is never used against you in our society. People of colour don't have that privilege. Those who shout about ignoring race are actually ignoring the very problems they think they're solving. It's like telling a patient to just ignore the bleeding and they'll be fine. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I think the day is coming and probably not too far off when racism takes a back seat to the gulf of hatred that's yawning between left wing and right wing. So what then ? A left-right war ? Seems like a pretty stupid idea, given how close they are in philosophy. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 You'd think so but when did stupidity become a good reason to give pause? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Posted January 28, 2015 So what then ? A left-right war ? Seems like a pretty stupid idea, given how close they are in philosophy. My money is on the "right"...they have more guns ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 So is my money....the left is too polite. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
overthere Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 There's going to be a problem telling the left from the right on the barricades. Lots of people on the left believe in selfish bourgeosie concepts like owning property. Lots of people on the right believe in commie plots like universal access to education and health care. Will identifying armbands be enough to distinguish your enemy or will we need facial tattoos as well? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 It shouldn't be too hard. Just look for the unhappy people who are complaining about low gas prices at the pump, apparently they hate having extra money in their pockets and prefer being poor. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
overthere Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 It shouldn't be too hard. Just look for the unhappy people who are complaining about low gas prices at the pump, apparently they hate having extra money in their pockets and prefer being poor. You are obviously on the far right. Poor people are on the left and do not have cars, and don't need gasoline. I'll be the guy with the Molotov nametag filling beer bottles with gasoline at the pumps. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Actually I'm in my own wing and it's every wing for itself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Michael Hardner Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 My money is on the "right"...they have more guns ! Not a lot of numbers though... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Posted January 28, 2015 Not a lot of numbers though... That's why they have an extraordinary number of bullets. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
AngusThermopyle Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 It shouldn't be too hard. Just look for the unhappy people who are complaining about low gas prices at the pump, apparently they hate having extra money in their pockets and prefer being poor. A rather ironic statement when you consider that you are one who advocates a Carbon tax that will remove money from everyone's pockets while doing nothing for the environment. Quote I yam what I yam - Popeye
eyeball Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 It was Tim who made it. I'd rather see a War on Terror tax levied on oil company profits. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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