Topaz Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Posted January 7, 2015 Wow, if the Liberals were so wrong with cutting back on the military, why has Harper done it and to the vets??? Quote
PIK Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 The military is in a lot better shape then it was back then and the vets are treated just as good or better. Most vets are happy with the treatment they receive. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted January 9, 2015 Report Posted January 9, 2015 The military is in a lot better shape then it was back then and the vets are treated just as good or better. Most vets are happy with the treatment they receive. We'll see about that come election time. The vets have started their "anyone but Harper" campaign and I don't blame them. Quote
PIK Posted January 12, 2015 Report Posted January 12, 2015 One thing the MSM does not show is the 1000s of soldiers that are quite happy with the service. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 Spanky , your liberals cut the military by 30%, trying their best to bring it down enough that we could never afford to build it up again. That was a real hidden agenda, to destroy the military. It takes time and money to rebuild and since we are stuck with a incompetent bureaucracy, that can.t handle any big purchase anymore. I think we need to admit that there is strong bipartisan, actually pentapartisan, support for keeping military spending very low in this country. The Conservatives have had nine years to change direction and they have not done so. The US is not impressed. BTW I have never been a member of a political party and I have voted both PC and Liberal in my time. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Bryan Posted January 16, 2015 Report Posted January 16, 2015 One thing the MSM does not show is the 1000s of soldiers that are quite happy with the service. True. The "unhappy vets" are simply those who never would have voted Conservative anyway trying to play politics. Quote
guyser Posted January 17, 2015 Report Posted January 17, 2015 True. The "unhappy vets" are simply those who never would have voted Conservative anyway trying to play politics.A sad and idiotic comment from both of you. You have no idea who those unhappy vets would vote, did vote for ,nor who they voted for in the past. Apart from that, being happy with something is not a paper seller. Once a critical mass is reached, media will report on it. Quote
PIK Posted January 19, 2015 Report Posted January 19, 2015 No it is not, they are human like the rest of us and will abuse the system just as easy. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
hitops Posted February 17, 2015 Report Posted February 17, 2015 There is also a baseline of humane support that we, as a society, agree to give to all people. A chief tenant of communist societies which, when enacted, almost without exception, resulted in far worst outcomes than than doing nothing. Not everything can be quantified, or shown to be worthwhile but much can. If a project provides only a break-even return but doesn't cost more, then the intangible benefits could make it worthwhile. One would need to demonstrate that break-even return in some way. Many ares of government spending cannot do do. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2015 Report Posted February 17, 2015 A chief tenant of communist societies which, when enacted, almost without exception, resulted in far worst outcomes than than doing nothing. That's a strawman holding a straw doll. I say "societies are humane". You say "that's what COMMUNISTS DO !". Then you add "AND COMMUNISTS END UP DOING EVEN WORSE THINGS." You know who else is kind and humane ? Batman. Think about it. One would need to demonstrate that break-even return in some way. No. One wouldn't. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
hitops Posted February 17, 2015 Report Posted February 17, 2015 That's a strawman holding a straw doll. I say "societies are humane". You say "that's what COMMUNISTS DO !". Then you add "AND COMMUNISTS END UP DOING EVEN WORSE THINGS." You know who else is kind and humane ? Batman. Not sure what purpose Batman has here, other than to indicate you relinquish the point. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 17, 2015 Report Posted February 17, 2015 Not sure what purpose Batman has here, other than to indicate you relinquish the point. He's also humane. So was Ghandi. So is Obama. Do you see my point ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Topaz Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 I think if Harper gets back in, especially with a majority, most Canadians will go into a depression and the economy will too! Quote
Boges Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 I think if Harper gets back in, especially with a majority, most Canadians will go into a depression and the economy will too! Sort of like what happened to Republicans when Obama won. You really going to play that game. How about all the Liberals move to Denmark where it's Sunshine and Roses 24/7. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 I think if Harper gets back in, especially with a majority, most Canadians will go into a depression and the economy will too! Let's not get too serious. This forum is fun to throw up some ideas and for some, a way to vent frustrations, both personal and political....but the truth is, no matter who is governing, the vast majority of Canadians get up in the morning, go to work, pay the rent, raise their kids - or have a beer and watch TV.....they carry on. Municipal and Provincial governments have far more effect on the daily lives of Canadians. Quote Back to Basics
Topaz Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Posted February 18, 2015 Yeah, but it the feds that affect the municipalities and the provinces and so it really is the feds that bring more unpleasantness to a country citizens. just look at what they did to the social programs and by the way ,the 2500,00 from CPP to help bury a person is now down to 2250.00, had a notice in the mail stating so and was surprised by it. Quote
Smallc Posted February 18, 2015 Report Posted February 18, 2015 Social programs generally have little to do with the federal government actually. Quote
jacee Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Social programs generally have little to do with the federal government actually. Federal transfers to provinces have a lot to do with social programs. Quote
overthere Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Federal transfers to provinces have a lot to do with social programs. It was terrible when the last Liberal Majority government raped the provinces on health care Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Keepitsimple Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 It was terrible when the last Liberal Majority government raped the provinces on health care Yes it was.....luckily the Cons have fixed that. Stable, predictable funding going forward. No more blaming the Feds. The provinces can get on with actually improving the delivery of Healthcare which is their constitutional responsibility. If more money is needed - increase Provincial taxes. Quote Back to Basics
Smallc Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Federal transfers to provinces have a lot to do with social programs. Which are not in any way shape or form (in most cases, anyway) a federal responsibility. Quote
jacee Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 Which are not in any way shape or form (in most cases, anyway) a federal responsibility. They have control through the federal transfers, with strings attached. . Quote
Smallc Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 They have control through the federal transfers, with strings attached. . How does that in any way go against what I said? Quote
jacee Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) How does that in any way go against what I said?It goes against what you implied." . Social programs generally have little to do with the federal government actually." In fact, the Feds have extraordinary ability to affect social programs via funding or lack of. Edited February 22, 2015 by jacee Quote
Smallc Posted February 22, 2015 Report Posted February 22, 2015 It goes against what you implied. . Not at all. Check on the constitutional responsibility of each level of government and get back to me. Quote
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