eyeball Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Then why did we have to intervene? You keep having to back-peddle because you keep coming at this from an unprincipled position of cowardice. Grow a pair. Edited May 22, 2016 by eyeball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Then why did we have to intervene? You keep having to back-peddle because you keep coming at this from an unprincipled position of cowardice. Grow a pair. Because if the USSR got its way, Iran would have became part of the Soviet Union...warm water ports...US made road/rail system....US made airports...US/UK pumped oil...the works. They tried already in 1946. This isn't some secret being kept from you. Just read up on the entire period rather than stuffing an event into a box and assigning your values from the 21st century to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) This is another tread going the cheering for and against mode. While it may satisfy the mine good, yours bad crowd, I view the situation differently.The Israeli government and the Zionists will do what they think is best for Israel. Good for them. That is their role in life.I believe that the Canadian government and Canadians will do what we think is best for Canada.It would be wise for Canada to go with power rather than self destruction in the future. Edited May 22, 2016 by Big Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Iran did this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings ...friends of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Iran did this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings ...friends of yours. I suggest that you take a deeper look into nation to nation associations. There are no "friends" and an "enemy" is someone you are at war with. Your association is based what is good for your own nation, not for others. Personally, I care little for what happens to Iran or Iraq or Israel or whatever other nation is doing except on what effect it has on Canada. Israel is on its way towards a war against every other nation there. Iran is on its way to international recognition as the power in the Middle East. You want war - stick with Israel. You want peace and dominance - stick with Iran. I do not want war. I take it that you prefer Israel over Canada. That's OK. You can enlist there for the next war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 You wish Canada to befriend the Mullahs in Iran and abandon Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Because if the USSR got its way, Iran would have became part of the Soviet Union...warm water ports...US made road/rail system....US made airports...US/UK pumped oil...the works. They tried already in 1946. This isn't some secret being kept from you. Just read up on the entire period rather than stuffing an event into a box and assigning your values from the 21st century to it. Carry on with nitty picking....Same old tactic to isolate one country and makes arab countries hostile towards Iran... Also spare us the google images you have posted here. I remember last time you did the same thing by putting an image of a 1978 embassy siege US hostage takers in Tehran by claiming it was Ahmadinejad. It was an utter lie and I provided proof that it was utter crap! It is this tendency to propagate on this forum to see if that lie is believed. Let's face it you have zero credibility when it comes to talking about this issue and the more you are gonna stir this the more smelly it gets...Leave it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 You wish Canada to befriend the Mullahs in Iran and abandon Israel. Yes I do.... Now go and cry anti semitism like I care.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yes I do.... Now go and cry anti semitism like I care.... I doubt you care about being an antisemitic Nazi. Which is why you're friends with the Mullahs to begin with. Some folks admired Hitler....still do as we can all see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 I doubt you care about being an antisemitic Nazi. Which is why you're friends with the Mullahs to begin with. Some folks admired Hitler....still do as we can all see. Doubt whatever you like. As if your opinion matters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Doubt whatever you like. As if your opinion matters... Don't you admire Hitler? He sure knew how to deal with those nasty Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kactus Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Don't you admire Hitler? He sure knew how to deal with those nasty Jews. Futile baiting DOP...Give it up....It is getting lame. Anyway, topic is irrelevant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Futile baiting DOP...Give it up....It is getting lame. Anyway, topic is irrelevant... So you just admire the Mullahs. Understood....they're alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 You wish Canada to befriend the Mullahs in Iran and abandon Israel. I wish the best for Canada, you wish the best Israel. That's OK. I'm a Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Understood. Lots of folks find the fascism presented by Iran's government quite attractive. You have lots of company these days, I'm afraid. I predict rough seas ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 Understood. Lots of folks find the fascism presented by Iran's government quite attractive. You have lots of company these days, I'm afraid. I predict rough seas ahead. I find democracy attractive - that is why I support our form of government. You and your Israeli supporters may be having difficulty explaining why the Israeli government is going farther and farther to the right. They are antagonizing more and more nations. I really do not care what happens to Israel and other nations in the Middle East just as long it is not creating problems for Canada. I would suggest that you, your Zionist friends and the other friends of Israel, decide what nation you really support if you are living in Canada. This is an international public access board so you may be a Zionist Israeli who is passionately supporting your country. Good for you. I am a proud Canadian and am concerned about my country. Any association of Canada with the escalating Zionist dominated Israeli government is bad news for Canada. I wish you and your Zionist friends good luck and I hope you end up getting what you deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Because if the USSR got its way, Iran would have became part of the Soviet Union...warm water ports...US made road/rail system....US made airports...US/UK pumped oil...the works. They tried already in 1946. This isn't some secret being kept from you. Just read up on the entire period rather than stuffing an event into a box and assigning your values from the 21st century to it. Yep we're just about full circle now...but but but the Russians made us do it. Notice it's still as easy as ever to work through your denials until you finally come clean and plead yes we did it but but but? You lack the courage of your convictions, principles and ethics because you don't really have any, if you did you'd just leapfrog all the denial and get to the point. You have a clear explanation for the West's need to interfere the way it has in the ME - the West apparently had no choice but to destroy democracy in Iran in order to save it from tyranny. So how come the west can't own and even embrace this explanation and sell it to the world? Why isn't the fact the Russians made us do what we've done in the ME region a clearly enunciated cornerstone of our policies then and now? Is there something we should be ashamed of you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Pretending I made-up the Cold War isn't going prove anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Quit seducing the pooch and answer the fricken questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Why should I be ashamed? You can be ashamed for both of us if you're so upset by how things turned-out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I find democracy attractive - that is why I support our form of government. You and your Israeli supporters may be having difficulty explaining why the Israeli government is going farther and farther to the right. They are antagonizing more and more nations. I really do not care what happens to Israel and other nations in the Middle East just as long it is not creating problems for Canada. I would suggest that you, your Zionist friends and the other friends of Israel, decide what nation you really support if you are living in Canada. This is an international public access board so you may be a Zionist Israeli who is passionately supporting your country. Good for you. I am a proud Canadian and am concerned about my country. Any association of Canada with the escalating Zionist dominated Israeli government is bad news for Canada. I wish you and your Zionist friends good luck and I hope you end up getting what you deserve. Strangely enough, I really don't give a rat's rear about Israel. They can take care of themselves. Kicked your ass...lol. My connection to this conflict is as I've mentioned...via the Grand Mufti whom an uncle of mine (quite dead now) worked for in the Balkans during WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Why should I be ashamed? You can be ashamed for both of us if you're so upset by how things turned-out. No, this will require an international effort. Why can't the West be proud of installing a dictator in place of a democracy if it was the right thing to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) No, this will require an international effort. Why can't the West be proud of installing a dictator in place of a democracy if it was the right thing to do? The Shah...ah yes. So evil...putting the screws to the very fascists in power today...lol. Stalin 'installed' the Shah. Edited May 23, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 Strangely enough, I really don't give a rat's rear about Israel. They can take care of themselves. Kicked your ass...lol. My connection to this conflict is as I've mentioned...via the Grand Mufti whom an uncle of mine (quite dead now) worked for in the Balkans during WW2. Is that what you're ashamed of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 The Shah...ah yes. So evil...putting the screws to the very fascists in power today...lol. Stalin 'installed' the Shah. The CIA was working for Stalin? Do you even think about how weird the things you write look? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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