DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Well, this guy was the neighbour of a drug dealer. Not sure what the Koran has to say on guilt by residential association, but the judge saw a place for him in paradise. Murder is treated differently in Islamic Law. One pays the blood money...no problemo. Revenge is always an option if blood money is refused. Good times. Billy Hayes came into contact with the drug laws in secular Turkey...Iran would be worse. Edited May 17, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 I wonder how many of you uber lefties would be having apoplexy if Israel brought out the death penalty for gays like Iran has. Oh please don't wonder...eyeranian arabs are there to get ya. Lol Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) It was a revenge move by the Muslims for Israel's victory over the invading Arabs in 1948. Property was confiscated. Pogroms committed. More Jews were made refugees than any so-called Palestinian. Iran was once the home to perhaps half a million Jews. There is under 10,000 now. Most evicted Iranian Jews went guess where?There are more than 10,000 jews in Iran today. Can you reveal your source where it says there is under 10,000??? i think you have made that up.You know very well that israeli government has made futile attempts to encourage iranian jews to emigrate to israel (ofcourse with a generous bribery packages). A lot of them have turned down that offer. Edited May 19, 2016 by kactus Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 One good thing about Iran, at least. When Judges sentence innocent people to death, they know they are going to Heaven. And we thought they didn't care about Human rights. I know I know....tell you what why don't you carry on with the usual rants about 72 virgins and muslems. Your bigotry to categorise every muslem the same is revealing... Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Homosexuals go to Hell under Islam. Murderers do go to Heaven. In fact, the more unbelievers that die in the process, the closer to Muhammad one is in Paradise.Very insightful DOP...Tell ya what? Whilst you are on the subject please enlighten us about that old testament and the way it views goyims... Edited May 17, 2016 by kactus Quote
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 I know I know....tell you what why don't you carry on with the usual rants about 72 virgins and muslems. Your bigotry to categorise every muslem the same is revealing... You realise it's difficult to take you seriously when you make such utterly silly comments? Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) You realise it's difficult to take you seriously when you make such utterly silly comments? Are you being ironic? Everyday hundreds of times I hear righties and zionists here go on about the same regurgitated statements like yours and you want me to take you seriously!? Get real.. Edited May 17, 2016 by kactus Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Just to make my stance clear I have no love for the mullah regime in Iran. But I refuse to take sweeping generalisation comments disgracing a whole nation in the name if islam and making a mockery out of them... Quote
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Are you being ironic? Everyday hundreds of times I hear righties and zionists here go on about the same regurgitated statements like yours and you want me to take you seriously!? Get real.. Statements like what? I hadn't seen a post about that Iranian Judge. And me a rightie? Oh dear... Quote
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Just to make my stance clear I have no love for the mullah regime in Iran. But I refuse to take sweeping generalisation comments disgracing a whole nation in the name if islam and making a mockery out of them... Hell, me too! Quote
kactus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Statements like what? I hadn't seen a post about that Iranian Judge. And me a rightie? Oh dear... Statements like what? I hadn't seen a post about that Iranian Judge. And me a rightie? Oh dear... Well in that case I refrain and withdraw my comment. When I saw your post I assumed that you were one of those who like to jump on the bandwagon and start ridiculing a whole nation in the name of islam...I was wrong and retract my comment. Edited May 17, 2016 by kactus Quote
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Well in that case I refrain and withdraw my comment. When I saw your post I assumed that you were one of those who like to jump on the bandwagon and start ridiculing a whole nation in the name of islam...I was wrong and retract. Well that's disarming... Just kidding. Damn decent. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Well that's disarming... Just kidding. Damn decent. You must not be a damn Zionist righty... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Iran is a police state that persecutes gays, Bahais, Zoroastreans, Christians, Jews, trade unionists, students who are not fundamental Shiite Muslims and question state policies, femininists, progressives. To come on this forum and advocate on the virtues of this country with its rampant human rights abuses, its blatant massacre of students, its continuing harassement and torturing of religious minorities is pathetic. To you supposed progressives who support Iran and also claim to be gay, feminist, liberal, socialist, ask yourselves what is it that makes you turn a blind eye to what it does? How do you so called progressives justify its Muslim fundamentalist police breaking into homes and taking people away to be tortured, sexually raped and mutilated in the name of punishing them for not being good Shiite Muslims? Iran is at war with not just Sunni Muslims, Kurds, Berbers, but Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastreans, Bahaiis. What causes the blindness that would support such a vile bigoted hateful torturous nation? Getting into an absurd debate over the number of Jews in Iran to try focus away from its tyranny to me is a bloody joke. Please just one of you Iranian chearleaders explain to me how Jews want to live in Iran and feel comfortable and secure there. Right. For the record no one knows how many Jews there are in Iran it is proably somewhere between 5 thousand and twenty five thousand but no one knows for sure but it has nothing to do with whether Iran is a cesspool of a tyrannical nation violating the very rights of its citizens with Muslim extremist religious intolerance. The Jews that do live there like Christians, Zorostreans, Bahaiis, etc., live under house arrest. No they do not dare express there true beliefs. Every word they say, is watched and recorded. You think some Jew in Iran dare say they don't agree with their beloved leader's beliefs that Israel should be wiped off the planet? Right. Jews are captive like all non Shiite Muslims but let's get real, Shiite Muslims are also captive. Any Iranian is captive if they disagree with this prehistoric, ignorant, fundamentalist regime. All you progressives, especially the feminists, gays, socialists, go on move to Iran. I have met and lived with Iranian refugees of all religions including Shiite Muslims. They all, Shiite, Sunni, Jewish, Christian, Zorostrean, Bahaii, trade unionist, feminist, socialist, student democrats, all have told me their stories. Those are the people I learn from and bare witness to, not some arm chair sheltered Iranian apologists on this forum who insist on all the rights in Canada no Iranian has in Iran. Anyone who wants to puppet and parrot puff for this cess pool excuse of a nation is in denial. This nation as long as its run by intolerant fundamentalists will never be any key to peace or anything else. Iran was and is a nation of brilliant people whose full potential is being suffocated by a minority of fundamentalist extremists holding them hostage. You Iranian apologists on this board need to go speak to Iranians who fled Iran and find out why and find out why you do not understand them or speak for them and quoting Al Jazeera doesn't make you an expert on the tyranny they live under. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/07/shiite_irans_genocidal_jew_hat_1.html http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6671/iran-religious-persecution http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/21/irans-regime-targets-evangelical-christians-as-national-security-threat.html http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/05/12/a-reminder-of-how-iran-treats-its-jewish-citizens/# http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/UN-report-assails-Iran-for-persecution-of-religious-minorities-347089 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/202948/humanitarian-tragedy-irans-beleaguered-jewish-dr-majid-rafizadeh httphttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/world/middleeast/irans-vice-president-rahimi-makes-anti-semitic-speech.html? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/world/middleeast/irans-vice-president-rahimi-makes-anti-semitic-speech.html?_r=0 Edited May 19, 2016 by Rue Quote
kactus Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 Iran is a police state that persecutes gays, Bahais, Zoroastreans, Christians, Jews, trade unionists, students who are not fundamental Shiite Muslims and question state policies, femininists, progressives. To come on this forum and advocate on the virtues of this country with its rampant human rights abuses, its blatant massacre of students, its continuing harassement and torturing of religious minorities is pathetic. The same pathetic progressives who support Iran and claim to be gay, feminist, liberal, socialist, ask yourselves what is it that makes them turn a blind eye to what it does. How do these so called progressives who support Iran justify its Muslim fundamentalist police breaking into homes and taking people away to be tortured, sexually raped and mutilated in the name of punishing them for not being good Shiite Muslims. Iran is at war with not just Sunni Muslims, Kurds, Berbers, but Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastreans, Bahaiis. What causes the blindness that would support such a vile bigoted hateful torturous nation? Oh but wait, let's get into a debate about the number of Jews in Iran like that deals with the kind of government it has. Go on have just one of these Iranian chearleaders explain to me how Jews want to live in Iran and would feel comfortable and secure there. Right. For the record no one knows how many Jews there are in Iran it is proably somewhere between 5 thousand and twenty five thousand but no one knows for sure. The Jews that do live there like Christians, Zorostreans, Bahaiis, etc., live under house arrest. No they do not dare express there true beliefs. You think some Jew in Iran dare say they don't agree with their beloved leader's beliefs that Israel should be wiped off the planet? Right. Jews are captive like all non Shiite Muslims but let's get real, Shiite Muslims are also captive. Any Iranian is captive if they disagree with this prehistoric, ignorant, fundamentalist regime. Take all the progressives, especially the feminists, gays, socialists, and go have them move to Iran. See how long they last. Someone want to lecture me on Iran. I don't need it. I have met and lived with Iranian refugees of all religions including Shiite Muslims. We all, Shiite, Sunni, Jewish, Christian, Zorostrean, Bahaii, trade unionist, feminist, socialist, student democrats, we all know what is the reality of Iran. Anyone who wants to puppet and parrot puff for this cess pool excuse of a nation is in denial. This nation as long as its run by intolerant fundamentalists will never be any key to peace or anything else. Iran was and is a nation of brilliant people whose full potential is being suffocated by a minority of fundamentalist extremists holding them hostage. Here you want to lecture on Jews in Iran, go read and remember, on this topic this Jew says, we Jews in Iran like our other Iranians being persecuted no what is going down. You Iranian apologists on this board need to go speak to Iranians who fled Iran and find out why and find out why you do not understand them or speak for them and quoting Al Jazeera doesn't make you an expert on the tyranny they live under. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/07/shiite_irans_genocidal_jew_hat_1.html http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6671/iran-religious-persecution http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03/21/irans-regime-targets-evangelical-christians-as-national-security-threat.html http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/05/12/a-reminder-of-how-iran-treats-its-jewish-citizens/# http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/UN-report-assails-Iran-for-persecution-of-religious-minorities-347089 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/202948/humanitarian-tragedy-irans-beleaguered-jewish-dr-majid-rafizadeh httphttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/world/middleeast/irans-vice-president-rahimi-makes-anti-semitic-speech.html? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/27/world/middleeast/irans-vice-president-rahimi-makes-anti-semitic-speech.html?_r=0 The number of jews living in Iran currently is closer to 25,000 not 10,000 as DOP has claimed. I asked him for the source he couldn't provide it. I think there is a misrepresentation here. The point of contention here is not about who is critisising the government of Iran but a bunch of racists on my his forum who treat all moslems including Iranians with the same rhetorics that can be represented as anti iranian. There is a fine line to discuss the politics and ridiculing the whole nation which seems to be the tendecy to provoke and insult anyone who disagrees with you. I have made it clear that I have no love for the mullahs in Iran. But...and there is a big but in the absence of a credible opposition especially given the fact that the meddling of the west has resulted in a mess in Iraq and Syria I don't think this will be a good idea for Iran. Furthermore, the current president of Iran Rohani is a moderate and it will be the best opportunity for change rather than drastic measures which result inevitably in failure... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Today, the vast majority of Persian Jews live in Israel and the United States, with a smaller community found in Canada. According to the most recent Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran is 8,756,[3] while the number of crypto-Jews is unknown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews Iranian census... Edited May 19, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews Iranian census... From your own link: Current status in Iran Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and, like the Zoroastrians and Christians, they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. Siamak Moreh Sedgh is the current Jewish member of the parliament, replacing Maurice Motamed in the 2008 election. In 2000, former Jewish MP Manuchehr Eliasi estimated that at that time there were still 60,000–85,000 Jews in Iran; most other sources put the figure at 25,000.[58] The United States State Department estimated the number of Jews in Iran at 20,000–25,000 as of 2009. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 As pointed-out, a recent Iranian census puts the number at 8,756. You can fudge it any way you see fit....but those are the real numbers according to your guys. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 Plus, the vast majority of Persian Jews had to flee to Israel where they could be safe from the Mullahs and their persecutions. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 Plus, the vast majority of Persian Jews had to flee to Israel where they could be safe from the Mullahs and their persecutions. Apparently they are not much safer in Israel. As Israel is always being attacked... Right? Jews living in Iran might have a better life than a Palestinian living in the West Bank. Quote
kactus Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 Apparently they are not much safer in Israel. As Israel is always being attacked... Right? Jews living in Iran might have a better life than a Palestinian living in the West Bank. Agreed.... Jews in Iran are treated no different from other ethnic groups. The political aspect affects every Iranian including the Iranian jews. There is no difference. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 Apparently they are not much safer in Israel. As Israel is always being attacked... Right? Jews living in Iran might have a better life than a Palestinian living in the West Bank. The FLED Iran, GH...you know...in fear and such. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) The FLED Iran, GH...you know...in fear and such.They fled Iran just like the jews in Israel immigrate to US in search of better life...Israel is nit exatly a heaven fir them when they can prosper in the west and US like any other immigrant.I repeat again...There is nothing special about Iranian jews. They are treated the same way other minorities in Iran are treated and if they wish to immigrate to US For a better life then that's their choice.... Edited May 19, 2016 by kactus Quote
Hudson Jones Posted May 19, 2016 Report Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) From your own link: Current status in Iran Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and, like the Zoroastrians and Christians, they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. Siamak Moreh Sedgh is the current Jewish member of the parliament, replacing Maurice Motamed in the 2008 election. In 2000, former Jewish MP Manuchehr Eliasi estimated that at that time there were still 60,000–85,000 Jews in Iran; most other sources put the figure at 25,000.[58] The United States State Department estimated the number of Jews in Iran at 20,000–25,000 as of 2009. Same census that DOP is holding onto desperately says that there were 9252 Jews living in Iran in 2006, which is much lower than the other estimates from the Jewish MP and US State Department. The census is based on "self reporting". It all depends on where you look, but it's obvious that the population is much higher The 2011 Iranian census recorded 8,756 Jews, down from 9,252 in 2006. This is based on self-reporting so is probably an underestimate. See Page on unfpa.org. The US Department of State estimated the population at 20,000-25,000 in 2009. See Page on state.gov. The Tehran Jewish Committee estimates the population at 25,000-30,000. See Iranian Jews Whichever it is, the Iranian Jewish population is certainly one of the two largest Jewish populations in the Muslim world (the other being Turkey, with around 17,000 Jews). Iran has a diverse population. There are many ethnicities and people with various religious background. There are some who are discriminated against by the Mullahs based on their religions. Those are people whose religions were established after Islam. One being Bahai's. One of my good friends is a Persian Bahai whose family escaped from Iran in the 90's. That said, Persian Jews are treated like any other person in Iran. They can participate in politics and do anything any other Iranian could do, including purchasing property in any part of Iran. This is more than what Palestinians can do in Israel who are not allowed to purchase property anywhere in Israel. (Note another case of the Zionist apologists dripping with hypocrisy.) Edited May 19, 2016 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted May 20, 2016 Report Posted May 20, 2016 Depending on WHAT census one desperately holds onto re: Persian Jews. There USED to be MANY more living in Iran....they didn't leave because Iran's Mullah's were treating them the same as anybody else. The Ayatollah had to issue a fatwa that Persian Jews be treated equally (no pogroms, etc) in order to stem the flood leaving Iran....brain drain. Most that are left are either very dedicated to the Jewish faith in Persia or are Crypto-Jews...converts to Islam and such. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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