DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) I think it is an abomination. But when the elected candidate of the Republican Party in the USA believes in the expulsion of another religious group is acceptable it makes me begin to wonder about the Arab states to do the same thing. It was a revenge move by the Muslims for Israel's victory over the invading Arabs in 1948. Property was confiscated. Pogroms committed. More Jews were made refugees than any so-called Palestinian. Iran was once the home to perhaps half a million Jews. There is under 10,000 now. Most evicted Iranian Jews went guess where? Edited May 16, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 That's right! Israel. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 What makes those territories "occupied"? International law. Every country (except for Israel), including Canada and U.S. agree that it's occupied. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) International law. Every country (except for Israel), including Canada and U.S. agree that it's occupied. It wasn't 'occupied' when it was Jordan. A little factoid fellows like you forget...deliberately. Plus, during the 60s-70s, Israel and Iran were the best of friends. Edited May 16, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 It wasn't 'occupied' when it was Jordan. A little factoid fellows like you forget...deliberately. Plus, during the 60s-70s, Israel and Iran were the best of friends. Stop replying to my comments with nonsense. jbg is trying to sell his make belief world that Israel is not occupying Palestinian land and I responded to him. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Stop replying to my comments with nonsense. jbg is trying to sell his make belief world that Israel is not occupying Palestinian land and I responded to him. Seeing there never was a Palestine, it's pretty hard for it to be occupied. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) Seeing there never was a Palestine, it's pretty hard for it to be occupied.Utter nonesense...You might as well claim palestinians never existed. Back to the topic..,what has this got to do with this thread!? Edited May 16, 2016 by kactus Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Utter nonesense... You might as well claim palestinians never existed. Back to the topic..,what has this got to do with this thread!? They didn't. The Ottoman Empire controlled the entire region since the Middle Ages. No Palestine. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Iran and Israel were allies. Do you wish to deny this fact? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 Iran and Israel were allies. Do you wish to deny this fact? I won't deny the fact that Iran and Usrael had both relatively enjoyed a 'stable' relationship pre revolution during Shah's era. Afterall, Iran still had one of the largest jewish community in the middle east outside Israell. The community that bibi's government have desperately tried to bribe with money to move to Israel. So what?? Where are we now? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 16, 2016 Report Posted May 16, 2016 I won't deny the fact that Iran and Usrael had both relatively enjoyed a 'stable' relationship pre revolution during Shah's era. Afterall, Iran still had one of the largest jewish community in the middle east outside Israell. The community that bibi's government have desperately tried to bribe with money to move to Israel. So what?? Where are we now? What changed? Why are Israel and Iran no longer best buddies? What could possibly get in the way of such a mutually profitable relationship? "Radical" Islam is what happened. Blind hatred of Jews. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Seeing there never was a Palestine, it's pretty hard for it to be occupied. Why do you try so hard to fight against the facts? Here is Canada's policy in regards to the settlements in the Occupied Territories: As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Why do you try so hard to fight against the facts? Here is Canada's policy in regards to the settlements in the Occupied Territories: As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Most Canadian politicians can't find Latvia on a map...see our PM. Most are even MORE ignorant of the history of Latvia... This is doubly true re: understanding the Arab-Israeli conflict. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Most Canadian politicians can't find Latvia on a map...see our PM. Most are even MORE ignorant of the history of Latvia... This is doubly true re: understanding the Arab-Israeli conflict. Every country but Israel accepts that the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are illegal. It's time for you to admit that it's "you" who doesn't understand. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Every country but Israel accepts that the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are illegal. Not true....the disputed territories are not uniformly considered "illegal" and the United States for one has vetoed UN resolutions to the contrary. Further, not all settlements can be treated as existing on the "occupied territory". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
marcus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Not true....the disputed territories are not uniformly considered "illegal" and the United States for one has vetoed UN resolutions to the contrary. Further, not all settlements can be treated as existing on the "occupied territory". "the territories are disputed, not occupied" are two Hasbara clichés that Zionists repeat tirelessly, failing to convince the saner part of the world, but further convincing themselves and their followers. Zionists seem to believe that legality is something that is decided by article writers or by pundits on their blogs. Not so. Legality under international law is decided by the United Nations and the International Court of Justice (ICJ), the bodies that most countries, including Israel, accept as the authority in matters of international disputes. The UN's Security Council has repeatedly denounced Israeli settlements in the West Bank as illegal. For instance, in UNSC Resolution 446 of 22 March 1979, it stated: The Security Council,(...) 1. Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East[.] The issue arose again when the ICJ was asked to give an advisory opinion about Israel's Apartheid Wall/Security Fence. On 9 July 2004, the ICJ issued its opinion that the Wall was illegal "recalling in particular" relevant United Nations resolutions affirming that Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, are illegal[.] Invoking UNSCR No. 446, the ruling included the following unequivocal statement: The Court concludes that the Israeli settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (including East Jerusalem) have been established in breach of international law. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Every country but Israel accepts that the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are illegal. It's time for you to admit that it's "you" who doesn't understand. Well, they're not. The Arabs attacked and lost. The place you so often claim is Palestine is actually chunks of Egypt and Jordan that they lost to Israel in the Six Day War. Never accepting their embarrassing defeat in 1967 (Six Day War), the Muslim countries and terror groups involved met in Khartoum to decide what to do. They came-up with the Three Noes...No recognition of Israel. No Peace with Israel. No negotiations with Israel. Syria and the PLO (Palestinian Authority now) never reneged these three noes. The rest of Israel's former enemies all have and have since made peace with Israel. If the PLO makes peace with Israel...real peace...Israel trades land for peace. Now, what's so hard about that? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
marcus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Well, they're not. Why do you have such a hard time with the law? United Nations and the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which Israel, Canada, U.S. and pretty much the rest of the world accept as the authority in matters of international disputes are clear on what the rules and boundaries are. It is time for you to step up and accept this fact. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Why do you have such a hard time with the law? United Nations and the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which Israel, Canada, U.S. and pretty much the rest of the world accept as the authority in matters of international disputes are clear on what the rules and boundaries are. It is time for you to step up and accept this fact. The UN is controlled by the OIC. The UN's job is now to employ aid workers...they have zero interest in solving the 'Israel problem'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 And who are you to pass that judgement about Iran...!? I wonder how many of you uber lefties would be having apoplexy if Israel brought out the death penalty for gays like Iran has. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 It was a revenge move by the Muslims for Israel's victory over the invading Arabs in 1948. Property was confiscated. Pogroms committed. More Jews were made refugees than any so-called Palestinian. Iran was once the home to perhaps half a million Jews. There is under 10,000 now. Most evicted Iranian Jews went guess where? Of course, when the Jews were forced to flee, Israel took them in. When the Arabs left Israel the Arab states surround them refused to accept them, and stuffed them all into refugee camps, where they remain to this day. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Of course, when the Jews were forced to flee, Israel took them in. When the Arabs left Israel the Arab states surround them refused to accept them, and stuffed them all into refugee camps, where they remain to this day. Most left at the behest of the Mufti who encouraged all Muslims to leave the upcoming war zone to avoid getting caught in the upcoming Jew-slaughter. Didn't work out... Plus, much to these 'anti-Zionists' chagrin, Iran and Israel used to be best buddies. None want to say what changed to cause their rift. Edited May 17, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 One good thing about Iran, at least. When Judges sentence innocent people to death, they know they are going to Heaven. And we thought they didn't care about Human rights. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) One good thing about Iran, at least. When Judges sentence innocent people to death, they know they are going to Heaven. And we thought they didn't care about Human rights. Homosexuals go to Hell under Islam. Murderers do go to Heaven. In fact, the more unbelievers that die in the process, the closer to Muhammad one is in Paradise. Edited May 17, 2016 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted May 17, 2016 Report Posted May 17, 2016 Well, this guy was the neighbour of a drug dealer. Not sure what the Koran has to say on guilt by residential association, but the judge saw a place for him in paradise. Quote
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