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The Vancouver School Board has shown some fortitude and has said no to Chevron trying to influence public schools. It's too bad other districts accepted the money. Raise the corporate tax rates and have these corporations pay their fair share.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/school-board-rejects-chevron-funding-fuels-election-controversy-1.2089419

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+School+Board+rejects+corporate+funding+accepted+Surrey/9602342/story.html

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short-sighted foolishness.

There would have been no corporate involvement within the school.

“Narrow minded, it’s from an ideological point of view. Why wouldn’t we look out for say breakfast for food sustainability programs or band programs or others if there are in fact income sources that don’t have inappropriate strings attached. [Why wouldn't we] seek funding sources that will enhance the school system and give our students a better environment to learn.” http://www.news1130.com/2014/10/29/rejecting-corporate-funding-for-classrooms-narrow-minded-vsb-candidate/
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The Vancouver School Board has shown some fortitude and has said no to Chevron trying to influence public schools. It's too bad other districts accepted the money. Raise the corporate tax rates and have these corporations pay their fair share.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/school-board-rejects-chevron-funding-fuels-election-controversy-1.2089419

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+School+Board+rejects+corporate+funding+accepted+Surrey/9602342/story.html

YAY!! :D

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short-sighted foolishness.

There would have been no corporate involvement within the school.

How can you say that? There would be many strings attached.

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How can you say that? There would be many strings attached.

Tell us what strings were actually attached to the funding.

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Odd decision based purely on ideology, but what else do you expect from Vancouver. It's not like people are going to rush out and burn even more gas just because Chevron makes a donation to the school system.

The Surrey School District has a business development department that is specifically tasked with raising money.

“The department looks after facility rentals, grounds rentals and fundraising on a more structured, corporate level, like sponsorships,” said Doug Strachan, a spokesman for the Surrey school district. “The department has been around at least 10 years and they pay for themselves many times over. They are so experienced and knowledgeable about these sorts of arrangements that it makes these things go more smoothly.”

The business development department raised more than $2.4 million during the 12 months ended June 30, 2013, according to a report to the Surrey School Board. The total cost of the department was $180,514 for the same period, meaning a $2.2-million benefit to Surrey schools.

Strachan said the Chevron program went well in Surrey. He said no promotional materials were sent home, and no corporate logos appeared in classrooms.


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Bring on the charter schools I say......that way Chevron won't need strings, they can just have a seat on the board.

Anyone who advocates for charter schools is anti-democracy. BTW, charter schools have been a massive failure in the US.

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so you have nothing. Cool.

Have nothing? You think Chevron has the right to advertise in public schools while brainwashing kids? Would you be happy if tobacco companies donatd money in public schools and placed their banners in the classroom?

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Public funding, not corporate marketing. Second story. Thank goodness the BCTF is standing up for children and public education and democracy.

http://www.bctf.ca/publications/BCTFNews-web.aspx?id=36006#2

One would think a group interested in standing up for public education would also be interested in finding ways to fund that education, other than just raising taxes.

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One would think a group interested in standing up for public education would also be interested in finding ways to fund that education, other than just raising taxes.

It's everyone's duty to pay for public education. Pub;lic education is a benefit to all and is needed for democracy.

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It's everyone's duty to pay for public education. Pub;lic education is a benefit to all and is needed for democracy.

Why do you exclude corporations from "everyone"? They benefit from an educated population so it is reasonable for them to put back. You rant on about supporting education but have no interest in where the money comes from to pay for it. Unfortunately, someone has to.

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Why do you exclude corporations from "everyone"? They benefit from an educated population so it is reasonable for them to put back. You rant on about supporting education but have no interest in where the money comes from to pay for it. Unfortunately, someone has to.

They should come from increased corporate tax rates. Not phony donations where the corporation wants something in return.

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They should come from increased corporate tax rates. Not phony donations where the corporation wants something in return.

Corporations make many donations without strings. They get a tax break and help out. Win, win. Your view is very myopic.

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Let's consider that Microsoft, blackberry and other high-tech companies provide scholarships, computers, and other equipment to schools. Is there any difference between this and Chevron donating money?

Sun Life donated a large sum of money to Sarah Maclachlin's school of music. Her schools provides music instruction for under privileged kids. Should they have refused this donation? I understand it is a private school, but we all see how much funding has dried up for our public education system.

The only problem I have with Chevron is the posting on their pumps that they will donate a buck to the school system for every $30 purchase of gas. However, on the other hand, I'm pretty sure the high-tech companies milk their contributions whenever they can.

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They should come from increased corporate tax rates. Not phony donations where the corporation wants something in return.

So what if they use it in their advertising, how does that negatively impact the school system? You don't really give a crap whether the school system benefits, as long as things conform to your personal ideology.

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Corporate donations for education could indeed be a godo thing. Big companies are great at running companies perhaps they could lend that expertise to help running some of our school boards which are grossly mismanaged. It would be a good thing to have a CEO of a large corperation to help get the cost inline from teachers skyrocketing salaries to school supplies purchasing. I'm sure with their HR skills and purchasing power they could become a great assest to our school system.

We could let the corperations name things within the school. Like the Gatorade Gymnasium or the AV department brought to you by Mountain Dew. Or something along these lines.

In the end I'd like to see the school system depend less on the government and more on corperate subsidy. That can only benefit us as taxpayers and the students who would have better equipment, better trained teachers who would make a salary more in line with real people in society.

I am enjoying this forum immenesly. Have a great day. I wish you all the best.

Skyrocketing salaries? Many teachers in BC have to et summer jobs to pay the bills.

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You think Chevron has the right to advertise in public schools while brainwashing kids? Would you be happy if tobacco companies donatd money in public schools and placed their banners in the classroom?

Should we as parents be happy that our kids are locked in rooms all day with rabid unionists brainwashing them? Not just locked in, but we are paying these ideologues big money to do it. Scary.

Science too hard for you? Try religion!

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Should we as parents be happy that our kids are locked in rooms all day with rabid unionists brainwashing them? Not just locked in, but we are paying these ideologues big money to do it. Scary.

Educators aren't ideologues. Educators understand the importance of collaboration and collectivism. That is why the mandate of public education has changed and why you don't see what is important these days.

Isn't your wife a teacher?

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Unions are as much of a corperation as chevron or Coke. They lobby for their clients the union members and care very little about the cost to those that are not paying dues.

The orginal concept of unions was much needed but now they have just become a lobby group that extorts money from people with threats of strikes and public demonstrations.

The idea that teachers are not telling their pupils about how hard done by they are in the class room is as much a dream as a working form of socialism.

In Ontario we watched as the police union payed for commercials against the PC party. The UFCW spends a large amount of money on sponsering race cars. The Toronto teachers unions defended outragous bills for minor repairs.

Coke,Pepsi,Ford,UNIFOR,UFCW, I really see no differance.

If more money can be brought in for the kids than I am all for it.

“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.”
Winston S. Churchill

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. –Robert Heinlein

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Vision lost control of both the school and parks boards in yesterday's election. Voters not exactly in sync with their idiology driven agendas for both schools and the aquarium.

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Vision lost control of both the school and parks boards in yesterday's election. Voters not exactly in sync with their idiology driven agendas for both schools and the aquarium.

Yes, that worries me about the loss of control of the parks board.

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