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How does President Obama compare to his predecessor, George W. Bush?

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waldo Grand Master

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An interesting juxtaposition wouldn't you agree Waldo? I refer to BC and Shady)

just look at the guy's most recent posts in this thread... comparing American presidents... in the U.S. Politics Forum. The guy just can't help himself... he's just so fixated on Canada, he once again (just one more of many, many like occurrences), tries to make the thread about Canada/Canadians! Talk about a wannabe! :lol:

bush_cheney2004 Grand Master

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President Obama compares very well to President Bush...in Canada ! They wanted to vote for him...twice.

I guess President Obama could be prime minister in Canada after he is done with "hope and change" in the "states".

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cybercoma Grand Master

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Apparently many Americans (who actually have to live under, and are effected by Obama goverance and policy) disagree with the insistence of the we-know-better-than-you Canadians of the forum. :lol:

Only 22 Percent of Americans Say They’re Better Off Under Obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/15/just-22-percent-say-theyre-better-off-under-obama/

Hmmm, perhaps they know something you don't? Nah, couldn't be! :lol:

Funny how you blame the world economy under Harper, but you blame Obama when it comes to America.

BubberMiley Grand Master

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Only 22 Percent of Americans Say They’re Better Off Under Obama

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/15/just-22-percent-say-theyre-better-off-under-obama/

Hmmm, perhaps they know something you don't? Nah, couldn't be! :lol:

Did you read the part of your link that starts off "But people aren't exactly great at remembering in what order things happened a few years ago."? :lol:
"I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Argus Grand Master

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Funny how you blame the world economy under Harper, but you blame Obama when it comes to America.

Funnier still is that the world economy was sent plunging into the toilet by George Bush, who he admires so much, not by Obama, who he hates.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

Shady Grand Master

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Funnier still is that the world economy was sent plunging into the toilet by George Bush, who he admires so much, not by Obama, who he hates.

More nonsense. Bush didn't plunge anything. Despite your ignorance.

BubberMiley Grand Master

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More nonsense. Bush didn't plunge anything. Despite your ignorance.

Yes, there must be a way to spin the economic devastation under Bush's watch as Obama's fault.
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Shady Grand Master

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Yes, there must be a way to spin the economic devastation under Bush's watch as Obama's fault.

Well, it was housing policy that Obama had pushed for as a community organizer. More loans for people that wouldn't otherwise qualify! That's the ticket!

BubberMiley Grand Master

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Well, it was housing policy that Obama had pushed for as a community organizer. More loans for people that wouldn't otherwise qualify! That's the ticket!

Right! And GWB was till working on My Pet Goat while the economy collapsed around him!
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Shady Grand Master

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Right! And GWB was till working on My Pet Goat while the economy collapsed around him!

If you want to have an actual policy discussion, let me know. Otherwise, your witty substanceless posts mean nothing to me.

BubberMiley Grand Master

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If you want to have an actual policy discussion, let me know. Otherwise, your witty substanceless posts mean nothing to me.

Right. Mr. Status Update fancies himself one for actual policy discussion with substantial posts like...

He's been a complete disaster, and doesn't seem to have a clue how to govern.

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marcus Grand Master

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Well into his second term, President Obama would never have made some of the silly promises he did as candidate Obama. The duties of the office quickly gave him a dose of reality, from 'Gitmo to drone strikes, which he doubled down on in Pakistan. He also expended a huge amount of political capital on the Affordable Care Act, losing an opportunity for other initiatives when his party controlled all of Congress. I agree that he largely continued the policies of the Bush Administration with minor tweaks.

I would guess that responses to the question will fall mostly along ideological / party lines, but in the end President Obama will have a legacy of good and bad, just like President Bush. Right now he is floundering badly on foreign policy.

Good post...

I agree with most of the above. At the end though, Obama has done more good than Bush did. Many don't like it and it has many faults, but Obamacare is better than no care. That will be one of his legacies.

Because there was so much hype about Obama and not so much for Bush, the failure by Obama to come through with the many promises he made before getting elected, will also be something he will be remembered for.

Bush Jr. failed in every aspect during his presidency and will not be remembered for anything positive.

At the end, despite Obama's failures, I'm sure if we were to have an election now, Obama would still beat Romney or McCain.

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bush_cheney2004 Grand Master

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...Bush Jr. failed in every aspect during his presidency and will not be remembered for anything positive.

At the end, despite Obama's failures, I'm sure if we were to have an election now, Obama would still beat Romney or McCain.

Don't be so sure....Romney would do much better now.

As for Bush failing in every aspect, that is demonstrably false:

- Tsunami Relief

- Humanitarian aid to Africa (e.g. PEPFAR)

- Marine conservation (e.g. Hawaii)

- Killing the Kyoto Protocol treaty for the U.S. (Canada followed his lead years later)

- Support for Israel

- Post 9/11 "War on Terrorism" (attacking leaders, finances, & communications)

- Medicare Part D

- Eastern Europe

- Missile defense

- Federal recognition of same sex couple benefits

- Regime change in Iraq (per U.S. public law).

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Argus Grand Master

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I don't know how tsunami relief could turn into a failure....Canada's DART sat on its ass for weeks. Now that's a failure !

The US under Bush couldn't even provide proper hurricane relief to one of your own major cities.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

Argus Grand Master

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Well, it was housing policy that Obama had pushed for as a community organizer. More loans for people that wouldn't otherwise qualify! That's the ticket!

Are you actually going to try and suggest a community organizer was responsible rather than the sitting president?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

bush_cheney2004 Grand Master

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The US under Bush couldn't even provide proper hurricane relief to one of your own major cities.

That's right....there was a Cat 5 hurricane in progress. What was Canada's excuse two weeks after the fact ?

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

eyeball Grand Master

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What was the name of the Cat 5 hurricane that hampered Bush's relief effort for New Orleans after Katrina blew through?

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