WWWTT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 How quaint. Does that mean you get it yet buddy or you're still not ready to admit you don't have any response? Take your time, take all the time you need. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
On Guard for Thee Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Does that mean you get it yet buddy or you're still not ready to admit you don't have any response? Take your time, take all the time you need. WWWTT You are quite fun I must say. Quote
PrimeNumber Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 China aren't commies, they're state monopoly capitalists that use communist names and imagery.Communism is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production by all members of society and characterized by the absence of social classes, money, and the state.China is not moving to establish a Communist social order, nor are they a class-less, money-less, or state-less society. These things exist in spades in China. Sorry it just irks me when people refer to China or the Soviet Union as communists. They used the name, the west went with it to run their anti-communist cold war propaganda, they are nothing of the sort. In fact no one has ever achieved communism, and it's pretty obvious China is not actively pursuing it. Also I would just like to clarify to all those in attendance that I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of a communist party./rant Carry on folks. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee
Demosthenes26 Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 . Also I would just like to clarify to all those in attendance that I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of a communist party. /rant Carry on folks. Are you sure? you seem to know an aweful lot on the subject. lol Quote
WWWTT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Nobody runs from Canada to China. Millions run the other way. China is an autocracy, with only the very beginning of democracy creeping in. The word ridiculous is not too strong to describe your assertion that they have more freedom than we do here. Met people from Australia, England, Canada, USA, New Zealand and other European countries who want to live there on a full time basis. Part of the problem is that they have a population problem there. Not an easy country to immigrate to. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 They don't have religious freedom either, despite your silly assertion. Here's an eyeful for you buddy! http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/06/pastafarian-loses-bc-drivers-licence_n_5942846.html WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
The_Squid Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Here's an eyeful for you buddy! http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/06/pastafarian-loses-bc-drivers-licence_n_5942846.html WWWTT lol THAT'S what you come up with? Discrimination of a pretend religion about wearing a colander on his head? Did ICBC kill the man for being a "pastafarian"? Cuz China actually kills and oppresses religious minorities! LOL You have to be a fake member... a caricature... you can't actually be a real person...... ????? Quote
guyser Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) lol LOL You have to be a fake member... a caricature... you can't actually be a real person...... ????? Pretty much. Oure esteemed and underlearned poster has never heard of Falun Gong I suppose and the hundreds of thousands who have been incarcerated for practising a simple religion.Not to mention the couple thousand who have died for the same. Freedom in china.....what a jokester he or rather she is. Edited October 8, 2014 by Guyser2 Quote
WWWTT Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Man you guys are all hell bent on lowering the value of this site like as if it was some kind of mission you're on! Anyways, here's another link that will have the both of you salivating, cursing and put you on a drinking rampage! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204267309510457&set=a.2055832482986.2123693.1459811173&type=1 WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
guyser Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Man you guys are all hell bent on lowering the value of this site like as if it was some kind of mission you're on! WWWTT Not at all. No idea what your link has to do w anything. But heres the skinny. Sites like this get lowered when ignorant people with no education come along. Why they even try and convince a rather well educated bunch that CHina has more freedom than America or Canada. Or try to argue that people have a right TO a passport. (then run when they have nothing available to refute it) Quote
WWWTT Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Let's see all the videos like this from China! http://bit.ly/1uwwv8I WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Not at all. No idea what your link has to do w anything. But heres the skinny. Sites like this get lowered when ignorant people with no education come along. Why they even try and convince a rather well educated bunch that CHina has more freedom than America or Canada. Or try to argue that people have a right TO a passport. (then run when they have nothing available to refute it) What's the matter buddy? You always seem to be shadowing me and having to reply to me. I guess you're not much for starting something. What was the last thread you started? Maybe start a thread about the rights in China. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
On Guard for Thee Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Not at all. No idea what your link has to do w anything. But heres the skinny. Sites like this get lowered when ignorant people with no education come along. Why they even try and convince a rather well educated bunch that CHina has more freedom than America or Canada. Or try to argue that people have a right TO a passport. (then run when they have nothing available to refute it) Kinda makes it like a whackamo game. Looks like you got one that time as well. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Let's see all the videos like this from China! http://bit.ly/1uwwv8I WWWTT Let's see all those videos from North Korea. Anybody? No? Well, they must have more freedom than America. Quote
guyser Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Maybe start a thread about the rights in China. WWWTT I guess I could. It would look like this. Chinese people dont have rights anywhere near what CDA or USA has. Replies would look like this..... Yea, no shit. or The sun sets in the west Captain Obvious or You mean there are dumb people who think otherwise? So why bother? Edited October 9, 2014 by Guyser2 Quote
WWWTT Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 North Korea? Never been there. Lots of Iphones and other camera phones in China. Once again Cybercoma chooses to turn a blind eye to facts! But hey buddy, don't let facts get in your way of this debate. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 So why bother? Just thought that you might want to be something more than just being a MLW shadow like On Guard for Thee Guess you don't? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
guyser Posted October 9, 2014 Report Posted October 9, 2014 Just thought that you might want to be something more than just being a MLW shadow like On Guard for Thee Guess you don't? WWWTT Enough topics are started thanks very much. Most are pretty good. Just thought you might like to get an education, you missed it the first time around, and sorry, no one can fix stupid. But one could read and learn, try it, it will help your life. Quote
WWWTT Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 Enough topics are started thanks very much. Most are pretty good. Just thought you might like to get an education, you missed it the first time around, and sorry, no one can fix stupid. But one could read and learn, try it, it will help your life. So that's why you're my shadow now? Because you think that I want an education from you? But then you say no one can fix stupid. Were you abused when you were a child? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
On Guard for Thee Posted October 10, 2014 Report Posted October 10, 2014 So that's why you're my shadow now? Because you think that I want an education from you? But then you say no one can fix stupid. Were you abused when you were a child? WWWTT Isn't it past your bedtime? Quote
cannuck Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) new to the site, late to the thread, so no way to respond to 13 pages except to say that posts 108-112 come close to reality. To suggest Chinese enjoy more freedoms than Westerners is ludicrous in the extreme. My best friend and business partner when in employ of a giant Chinese state-owned multi-national could not travel freely for business without express permission of government ON APPLICATION even after he rose to be the vice-chair of international business. Ten years later, things are better, but don't even begin to try to tell me there are any reasonable level of personal freedoms or human rights comparable to what we experience. What you ARE free to do is pollute the countryside, poison people around the world and lie about any document, your income, etc. Unless you become a pain in the arse to someone in the Party or some level of government, you really are pretty much alone to do as you please. China HAS all kinds of laws protecting environment, consumers, etc. but they are seldom ever enforced unless to serve agendae of party or bureaucrats. The reason you pay more for imported goods than domestic equivalent is that Chinese KNOW that what something appears to be is not what it might be in fact. The subject of language was briefly broached: due to the restrictions on travel for decades, very few people in China speak or understand many of the dialects outside of their home. You can learn the words, but unless you know the regional dialect and on top of that are sufficiently familiar with the culture to understand context, you have very little idea of what you are saying and what is being said. HUGE blocks of people do speak Mandarin and/or Cantonese, but... People in China are totally distrusting in government - for good reason. It is the same Communist party today from which Chairman Mao managed to starve as many as 100,000,000 people by nationalizing all farm land. Made the Holucost look like a small car crash. China's turnaround came with the wisdom of the Four Pillars of Modern Reform - courtesy of Deng's European exposure and education. HOWEVER: to think this is a capitalist society and system is extremely wrong. This is institutionalized exploitation of the strengths and weaknesses of Capitalism as well as the strengths and weaknesses of their own people and situation in a centrally planned campaign that would make Marx blush. Even the adaptation of technology is not happenstance (or internally developed), it occurs due to massive monitoring of worldwide cyber communications and data storage in a State sponsored wave of cyber-terrorism and cyber-theft beyond your wildest imagination. Now, all of that being said: if you ask a citizen if they are better off now than 10 and 20 years ago, they would ask if you are crazy, of course they are. If you ask them if they expect to be better off in another 10 or 20 years, they will reply "of course". So, while they don't have Western standards of living and freedom, what you see happening is simply the very quickly evolving "catch up" to the rest of the world that is inevitable. China (and even to the understanding of Chinese leaders) can no longer stand still, nor will her people. And that's a good thing. Should we sanction them for their extremely one-sided trade practices? No, not IMHO. HOWEVER: we really MUST protect our consumers from to total lack of truth and integrity of Chinese manufactured and exported products. THAT is fair ball by our rules. Edited October 22, 2014 by cannuck Quote
guyser Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Nice read cannuck ^ Dont worry, no one in their right mind believes the Chinese have rights or freedoms like we do in Canada, key word is 'right mind'. As for this... ...it occurs due to massive monitoring of worldwide cyber communications and data storage in a State sponsored wave of cyber-terrorism and cyber-theft beyond your wildest imagination. ...I have Huawei as neighbours. .....seem shady Edited October 22, 2014 by Guyser2 Quote
Scared.In.Canada Posted October 22, 2014 Report Posted October 22, 2014 USA and Canada are kissing China`s ass because the Yellow Dragon could take them both out if it or when it chooses to do so. Quote
WWWTT Posted February 15, 2015 Report Posted February 15, 2015 new to the site, late to the thread, so no way to respond to 13 pages except to say that posts 108-112 come close to reality. To suggest Chinese enjoy more freedoms than Westerners is ludicrous in the extreme. My best friend and business partner when in employ of a giant Chinese state-owned multi-national could not travel freely for business without express permission of government ON APPLICATION even after he rose to be the vice-chair of international business. Ten years later, things are better, but don't even begin to try to tell me there are any reasonable level of personal freedoms or human rights comparable to what we experience. What you ARE free to do is pollute the countryside, poison people around the world and lie about any document, your income, etc. Unless you become a pain in the arse to someone in the Party or some level of government, you really are pretty much alone to do as you please. China HAS all kinds of laws protecting environment, consumers, etc. but they are seldom ever enforced unless to serve agendae of party or bureaucrats. The reason you pay more for imported goods than domestic equivalent is that Chinese KNOW that what something appears to be is not what it might be in fact. People in China are totally distrusting in government - for good reason. It is the same Communist party today from which Chairman Mao managed to starve as many as 100,000,000 people by nationalizing all farm land. Made the Holucost look like a small car crash. China's turnaround came with the wisdom of the Four Pillars of Modern Reform - courtesy of Deng's European exposure and education. HOWEVER: to think this is a capitalist society and system is extremely wrong. This is institutionalized exploitation of the strengths and weaknesses of Capitalism as well as the strengths and weaknesses of their own people and situation in a centrally planned campaign that would make Marx blush. Even the adaptation of technology is not happenstance (or internally developed), it occurs due to massive monitoring of worldwide cyber communications and data storage in a State sponsored wave of cyber-terrorism and cyber-theft beyond your wildest imagination. So does the people of the People Republic of China have more rights? Clearly they do! And here's the proof! http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVi5J0uBUTpwACoInnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEzM2pkdDNiBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMl8x/RV=2/RE=1424048841/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fen.people.cn%2fconstitution%2fconstitution.html/RK=0/RS=3rSxSKyYQZzxffXbJnoCPTN3biE- Take all the time you want to read that my friends! Very good read as well!!!! Well written documents light years ahead of what I have read from any western nation! Then come back and post your opinion about how you feel. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Michael Hardner Posted February 15, 2015 Report Posted February 15, 2015 And here's the proof! http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVi5J0uBUTpwACoInnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEzM2pkdDNiBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1lIUzAwMl8x/RV=2/RE=1424048841/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fen.people.cn%2fconstitution%2fconstitution.html/RK=0/RS=3rSxSKyYQZzxffXbJnoCPTN3biE- You don't have to look very hard to find an example where China isn't allowing freedom of expression, which is a cardinal right in places like Canada, the United States, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Israel and so on... http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/03/us-china-dissident-idUSPEK10194620080403 (Reuters) - A Buddhist Chinese dissident outspoken on Tibet and other sensitive topics was jailed for three-and-a-half years on Thursday, a conviction likely to become a focus of international rights campaigns ahead of the Beijing Olympics.[/size] Hu Jia, 34, was found guilty of "inciting subversion of state power" for criticizing the ruling Communist Party, a verdict at which the United States expressed dismay. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
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