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China's repression is getting desperate... they will even jail their allies.... if they aren't ally enough for the Commies.

Ya, so what?

One case in a country with a population of 1.4 billion people.

Ever heard of Guy Paul Moran?

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It's pretty offensive to those who've lost friends and family members when you come on here calling China's abuses "Sasquatch stories." They're well documented. But then, when you make up your own version of reality, what does documentation matter? Global Warming becomes a myth, 9/11 was a secret plot, Elvis is still alive somewhere. It doesn't matter.

Ya actually, in reality, the communist socialist party of China has saved and improved hundreds of millions of lives all around the world!

But I don't find it offensive that it was compared to a Sasquatch story because this is a debate site and I am fully aware that this is all that you guys have left.

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Hope you dont mind, better reflects the reality.

Your lies about the Chinese Commies has been so debunked that you are making yourself look incredibly foolish.

Like anyone cares what the two of you have to say

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When people make their mind up based on the facts, it doesn't make them closed minded when they reject someone's completely absurd claims that have absolutely no grounding in facts and verifiable observations.

Like you speak Chinese, have Chinese family and been to China many times.

Nope, absolutely none of that! But what you have is alleged facts!

You know where you can stick your facts! I'll stick with what I have experienced and witnessed! And I won't let YOU try to talk me down buddy!

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Like you speak Chinese, have Chinese family and been to China many times.

Nope, absolutely none of that! But what you have is alleged facts!

You know where you can stick your facts! I'll stick with what I have experienced and witnessed! And I won't let YOU try to talk me down buddy!

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Next time you're in China, I suggest you protest in front of a government building.... just as an experiment... see what happens.

It may be the last time we hear from WWWTTT for a while! LOL

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When you stage your protest, try not to end up like these people who tried to protest or get justice in China:

http://www.ntd.tv/en/programs/news-politics/china-forbidden-news/20141007/230600-human-rights-abuse-in-china-1006.html

Six Employees Dead, Family Beaten for Seeking Justice

Six healthy, young male employees from a paper and dyeing factory in Honghu Village, Hubei Province died a sudden, violent death at home on Oct. 3. Distressed family members visited the factory and the local government on three consecutive days to seek an explanation. On Oct. 6, local authorities dispatched nearly the entire police force of Honghu to beat the family to death, injuring many.

Boss Hires Thugs to Beat Staff for Demanding Wages

On Oct. 5, staff of the unit 62 clothes shop on West Yongjia Road in Zhili, Huzhou City, Zhejiang Province, requested that their boss pay them wages that were owed them, but the boss hired thugs to beat the staff, injuring several.


Villagers Protest Against Demolitions, Over 20 Injured

On Oct. 4, tens of villagers of Nuanshuihe Village in Wujing, Weifang City, Shandong Province, put barriers on Road 327 against forced demolition, and clashed with police. Villagers used farm tools, sticks and bricks to clear out police, but more police came. Many villagers were injured and hospitalized and more than 20 have been arrested. - See more at: http://www.ntd.tv/en/programs/news-politics/china-forbidden-news/20141007/230600-human-rights-abuse-in-china-1006.html#sthash.gKyq53oC.dpuf

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Like you speak Chinese, have Chinese family and been to China many times.

Nope, absolutely none of that!

So....you've never piloted a F-35 before yet comment on that thread. Funny how that works huh?

I have Chinese family ,50 mainland Chinese co-workers all emigrated in the last few years, and they all to a man laugh at the assertions that you put forth.

Its silly to think you have any idea how bad things can be in China as respects rights (no Passport rights tho). But thats ok, keep your head buried in the sand, suits you just fine.

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Like you speak Chinese, have Chinese family and been to China many times.

Nope, absolutely none of that! But what you have is alleged facts!

You know where you can stick your facts! I'll stick with what I have experienced and witnessed! And I won't let YOU try to talk me down buddy!

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Your rich Chinese wife have family in The Party, comrade? Better yet, how about we don't bring each other's personal lives and families into this. You shouldn't presume to know anything about me, my family, or where I've been in life because personal anecdotes are irrelevant here.

What is relevant is that I don't know how you could be so completely dismissive of the facts that have been posted. It's like you have some some strange ideological agenda that compels you to be completely blind to the facts that have been presented. And your only response is to get personal with people are stop calling people "PISS POOR DEBATER!"

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When you stage your protest, try not to end up like these people who tried to protest or get justice in China:

http://www.ntd.tv/en/programs/news-politics/china-forbidden-news/20141007/230600-human-rights-abuse-in-china-1006.html

Hey great link from an organization based from the US!

What if I posted a link from China or Russia criticizing the US. What would you think hey? Would that be cool?

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Hey great link from an organization based from the US!

What if I posted a link from China or Russia criticizing the US. What would you think hey? Would that be cool?

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For someone who calls people "piss poor debater" you might not want to go making arguments relying on a genetic fallacy.

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Your rich Chinese wife have family in The Party, comrade? Better yet, how about we don't bring each other's personal lives and families into this. You shouldn't presume to know anything about me, my family, or where I've been in life because personal anecdotes are irrelevant here.

What is relevant is that I don't know how you could be so completely dismissive of the facts that have been posted. It's like you have some some strange ideological agenda that compels you to be completely blind to the facts that have been presented. And your only response is to get personal with people are stop calling people "PISS POOR DEBATER!"

Oh I perfectly understand that anything I post is irrelevant to you. But when someone posts something in favour of your beliefs, the fanfare starts playing.

Like I said before, this is a conservative site buddy. I know very well that I'm not convincing anyone who has bean conditioned their entire life to see things one way

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Pissed off? lol

It's not "anything" you post is irrelevant. In fact it has nothing to do with relevance. It's that you've posted ludicrous garbage that's not grounded in facts, while simultaneously ignoring the reasoned arguments backed up observable data. Your arguments about China here are meaningless because there are countless studies and piles of documentation that show what you're saying is plainly wrong.

That doesn't piss me off. It makes me laugh at your ignorance.

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Oh looky looky here!

Looks like some of these folks from these Chinese provinces are MILITANTS!

So when China cracks down on MILITANTS. People in the west are up in arms calling it human rights violations. But when militants in the west is what we're talking about, hey lets create new laws that focus directly on them with all the blessings!

Please ignore cybercoma, squid, guyser 2 etc etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/19/us-china-tibet-idUSBREA1I09520140219

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Yes, the Chinese Commies are claiming the people that they're suppressing are militants. That's hardly a surprise.

The Commies put out a lot of lies and propaganda. So what?

Ya and all those American budget forecast of China's booming economy that have helped the average Chinese citizen gain financial freedom, happy to be out with their friends eating at nice restaurants, buying new condos, driving to the park on their new electric scooters they can now buy with their good paying jobs!

Who the hell do those commies think they are with their happiness and their plentiful jobs and their booming economies!

Why don't they get sad and miserable when we tell them they have no rights?!?!?!?!?!?

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Ya and all those American budget forecast of China's booming economy that have helped the average Chinese citizen gain financial freedom, happy to be out with their friends eating at nice restaurants, buying new condos, driving to the park on their new electric scooters they can now buy with their good paying jobs!

Who the hell do those commies think they are with their happiness and their plentiful jobs and their booming economies!

Why don't they get sad and miserable when we tell them they have no rights?!?!?!?!?!?

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Probably because they have just learned to accept the fact.

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Probably because they have just learned to accept the fact.

LOL!

Ya that's it.

FINANCIAL OPPRESSION=SLAVERY

SLAVERY=NO RIGHTS!

Therefore

FINANCIAL FREEDOM=LOTS OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS!

Get your priorities straight!

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