WestCoastRunner Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Maybe you're overreacting just a smidge. Of course you would say that. I am not surprised. And I am not surprised if many other men on this forum had no problem with BC's video. If you all agree that you have no problem with his video and I am overreacting, than I will leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Of course you would say that. I am not surprised. And I am not surprised if many other men on this forum had no problem with BC's video. If you all agree that you have no problem with his video and I am overreacting, than I will leave. I'm just saying' that maybe you have an attachment to that scene that others may not have. You can PM me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm just saying' that maybe you have an attachment to that scene that others may not have. You can PM me. Seriously, I was just about heading to sleep, when I saw this message and your message exemplifies everything I stand for. I have no attachment to this scene. I am absolutely horrified by the introduction of this video BC introduced. It had no place in this environment that I was proposing. As usual he was instigating some kind of warped thought. I do not need to PM anyone. But thank you for your kind response. I appreciate it. If only we can extend those thoughts to our male counterparts who are not so thoughtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Gee...I feel guilty. So here is equal time for a male getting spanked by his parent: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Simple explanation here is b_c didn't understand what kind of spanking this thread was started to discuss. I personally didn't need to know what visual aids he favours, but here we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Indeed...we can always count on the simplest of explanations from some members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Indeed...we can always count on the simplest of explanations from some members. And of course the conversation comes around to members. Sick bastard Edited September 18, 2014 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 The only time I gave my kids a smack on the ass was when I absolutely had to get their undivided attention. Keep in mind one thing: be careful how you treat your kids, you may need a kidney some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I am absolutely horrified by the introduction of this video BC introduced. It had no place in this environment that I was proposing. As usual he was instigating some kind of warped thought. it is most unfortunate your thread was purposely derailed. The parental discipline focused discussion went sideways when MLW member, 'BC_2004', thought to shift that discussion to school discipline and his, "whatever it took to get after that ass" summation... of course, his presumed "titillating" video was a natural extension for his derail. in any case, I ascribe improper physical and/or mental disciplining to either 'the heat of the moment' where a parent knows better, but simply loses momentary control, or, a parents own immaturity precludes any ability to rationally address concern/problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 WestCoast, you give too much dignity to bush's posts by responding to them in this fashion. You should have just reported the first video and subsequently ignored him. Instead we have pages and pages of attention drawn to something that didn't even deserve a response, let alone an entire thread dedicated to it. This is what trolls get off on, watching you blow up and react the way you did. I don't care what personal definition Charles Anthony or Greg have of trolling. This thread is the definitive example of what it is, how it derails discussions, and what kind of reaction trolls try to draw out of people. The problem with the moderation here has been and will be for the foreseeable future that the administration would rather punish people for reacting to trolls, rather than the trolls for intentionally disrupting conversations and looking to draw out those reactions. Next time, just ignore the stupidity and report it for the useless clutter that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) and if anyone agrees with his particular post, speak up. Just caught up to this thread. bush_cheney2004 made a mistake but instead of apologizing, decided to go on the offensive. Just another attempt to derail a thread and create problems. The process worked. Some people just seem to get off by creating discomfort and anger in others. It is unfortunate and I too am surprised that something has not been done about it. But back to the topic. I come from a household in the 1940's of many children which depended on corporal punishment for discipline. With every adult working, there was little time for psychology so it was "applied" with discretion. I seemed to have turned out OK (according to my bride and family) used corporal punishment with my children - they are all successful professionals - so they seem to have turned out OK. I did have a rule - never apply corporal punishment when angry - a tough rule to follow when the punishment has to be applied as close to the danger as possible. Usually, the parent is emotional not because they are angry at the child but that the child has done something that could cause them harm - sometimes angry at themselves because they feel they could have prevented the dangerous situation. Emotion should never be present in the application of corporal punishment. It has to be directed, appropriate and effective. The rejection of any kind of corporal punishment as a behaviour modification for children has not been proven (yet) to be more effective than lovingly applied corporal punishment. I have seen in public and in family gatherings where youngsters who are creating all kinds of problems are given a "time out" or a "lesson in logic" but continue to be allowed to create chaos. I am still sceptical about the "new" approach. I would like to see the long term results before I am convinced that it is worth all that adult time and "meetings". Edited September 18, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 ... Next time, just ignore the stupidity and report it for the useless clutter that it is. Agreed...just like your long winded post to explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 bush_cheney2004 made a mistake There was no mistake about it. He knew exactly what kind of reaction he would get and was loving every minute of it. That's why he continued to pour gas on the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Just caught up to this thread. bush_cheney2004 made a mistake but instead of apologizing, decided to go on the offensive. Just another attempt to derail a thread and create problems. The process worked. Thank you for your interesting acknowledgement. I always strive to engage each topic with passion and vigor. I am not deterred by personal attacks against me, my mother, or nation, which actually provided the impetus for this topic. Carry on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Thank you for your interesting acknowledgement. I always strive to engage each topic with passion and vigor. I am not deterred by personal attacks against me, my mother, or nation, which actually provided the impetus for this topic. Carry on.... you purposely derailed the thread, you extended upon the thread originator's raised concerns by further derailing the thread, you've had 4 MLW members now raise direct concerns over your actions... and you show your typical disdain for anyone doing so. Well done... keep on, keeping on, hey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 There was no mistake about it. He knew exactly what kind of reaction he would get and was loving every minute of it. That's why he continued to pour gas on the fire. Sorry to continue on this tangent - but - I have always wondered what is it in a personality who would gain pleasure from creating displeasure, discomfort or anger in others? First, you have to be a coward if you are doing so anonymously and are not prepared to accept the repercussion of this sadistic action. Second, the process is unhealthy and potentially dangerous to others. I hope that others in the same household or venue are privy to these posts and are warned accordingly. I would tend to agree with post #17 in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks like the usual haters are out in force...no matter. The original OP was engaged on topic with expansion and participation by the complaining member, relaying her own school experience. I would encourage those who abhor my posts to simply ignore them by making the appropriate profile settings changes. Interesting that many have not done so, eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks like the usual haters are out in force...no matter. The original OP was engaged on topic with expansion and participation by the complaining member, relaying her own school experience. I would encourage those who abhor my posts to simply ignore them by making the appropriate profile settings changes. Interesting that many have not done so, eh ? Bringing a video of teenager porn into an serious discussion of child discipline methods is not acceptable. Either it was a mistake or it was meant to do what it did. If it was a mistake then man up and apologize. If it was meant to do what it did then ... see post #17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks like the usual haters are out in force...no matter. yes! My signature speaks to "victimhood" ploys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Bringing a video of teenager porn into an serious discussion of child discipline methods is not acceptable. Either it was a mistake or it was meant to do what it did. If it was a mistake then man up and apologize. If it was meant to do what it did then ... see post #17 No...you are mistaken. It was a purposeful contribution to the topic flow as a current dramatic film (from Canada) that demonstrates institutionalized corporal punishment. Spanking is a widespread cultural behavior that is not limited to parents. If these concepts and depictions are offensive to you or others, I recommend avoiding them in the future. As for "serious discussion", I will take that as the usual code for uptight folk who can't handle or understand the cultural context of spanking and reference to same using actual "black" jargon instead of the sanitized white bread blather that seeks to always not offend, even when it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 No...you are mistaken. It was a purposeful contribution to the topic flow as a current dramatic film (from Canada) that demonstrates institutionalized corporal punishment. Spanking is a widespread cultural behavior that is not limited to parents. If these concepts and depictions are offensive to you or others, I recommend avoiding them in the future. As for "serious discussion", I will take that as the usual code for uptight folk who can't handle or understand the cultural context of spanking and reference to same using actual "black" jargon instead of the sanitized white bread blather that seeks to always not offend, even when it does. no... you are mistaken. It was a/your purposeful derail of the thread. The, as you say, 'topic flow' was a discussion of parental discipline - you know, like the thread title/OP! There was no, as you say, discussion of "institutionalized corporal punishment"... you were the first to introduce a reference to institution... to schools, one you so flippantly summarized as, "whatever it took to get after that ass"... which, of course, had you take extended liberty with the posting of your presumed pubescent teenage girls "titillating" video. Well, were you... titillated? But hey now, "black jargon"... really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 its a thread about thread drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Look, there were 4 posts addressing school discipline - 2 of which WCR contributed her own experiences. Although I understand both sides to the argument, I believe that WCR reacted stronger than many would and hence fuelled BC 2004. Is the video really that bad? Well, to some it is, others not so much. BC2004 should've been more sensitive realizing WCR's strong objection, but that doesn't make him horrible, just a little sociopathic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 ... BC2004 should've been more sensitive realizing WCR's strong objection, but that doesn't make him horrible, just a little sociopathic. Actually, it would have been patronizing for BC2004 to exchange posts in a different manner because of real or perceived objections. We are all grown ups here and other topics are routinely posted and engaged regardless of other members' sensitivities or objections. Nothing special about this one or the declared bias towards male behaviour by one or more members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Look, there were 4 posts addressing school discipline - 2 of which WCR contributed her own experiences. Although I understand both sides to the argument, I believe that WCR reacted stronger than many would and hence fuelled BC 2004. school discipline posts that occurred after the purposeful derail of an active discussion on parental discipline... a purposeful (and continuing) derail from the originator's intent, the opening post, all discussion up to the point of derail and raised objection/concern from the thread originator. Is the video really that bad? Well, to some it is, others not so much. BC2004 should've been more sensitive realizing WCR's strong objection, but that doesn't make him horrible, just a little sociopathic. I will defer to your assessment of personality persona disorder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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