Future of Canadian TV

[Boges]

I find it interesting that the "Christian channel" is mandatory. Though, I can see the reasoning behind mandating CPAC, APTN, French channels, etc. I can't think of any compelling argument for forcing the inclusion of a Christian station.

Why APTN instead of YESTV? It's only partial Christian programming.

At least YESTV actually holds the rights to some American programming that would otherwise not be seen if you only had Canadian TV.

[Cruze]

With so much "Free" today It's hard to say where Cable/Media is going.

One thing is for sure there will be thousands of Job Losses.

Free = Job Losses = sooner or later it will affect you or your family.

It's amazing how much free stuff you can get at your local Library.

Maybe when all the retail outlets are gone and malls are closed the Liberal youth will understand the impact.

[bush_cheney2004]

...At least YESTV actually holds the rights to some American programming that would otherwise not be seen if you only had Canadian TV.

Interesting, as this means even more defacto American programming support and mandate by the CRTC. Together with optional but no-charge U.S. 4+1 networks, Canadians get access to American content as a presumed baseline, confirming what another member here confirmed before...it is fundamental to Canadian broadcast and cable television service.

[waldo]

Interesting, as this means even more defacto American programming support and mandate by the CRTC. Together with optional but no-charge U.S. 4+1 networks, Canadians get access to American content as a presumed baseline, confirming what another member here confirmed before...it is fundamental to Canadian broadcast and cable television service.

try again: the CRTC does not mandate any U.S. stations/content be carried - the choice to include such American cultural "stalwarts" as "The Biggest Loser" is a choice made entirely by the owner/operators of "YESTV"... by the by, just who is the biggest American loser?

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Edited March 26, 2016 by waldo

[Boges]

try again: the CRTC does not mandate any U.S. stations/content be carried - the choice to include such American cultural "stalwarts" as "The Biggest Loser" is a choice made entirely by the owner/operators of "YESTV"... by the by, just who is the biggest American loser?

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Conveniently forgetting YESTV carries Jeopardy kind of dismantles your distane doesn't it? Edited March 26, 2016 by Boges

[GostHacked]

There's all kinds of decent TV produced in Canada for years. 21 Jump Street, MacGyver, Battlestar Galactica, Once Upon a Time, Supernatural, Fringe, The X-Files, all filmed in Canada.

My fave new one is a comedy called 'LetterKenny' shot in Sudbury of all places.

[bush_cheney2004]

Conveniently forgetting YESTV carries Jeopardy kind of dismantles your distance doesn't it?

Actually looking at Yes TV's history and programming schedule, it is consistent with current Christian broadcasting models in "North America". It even has weekend programming for Islam and Judaism. Regional "religious" broadcast and cable channels usually do not have to succeed like the commercial stations that are screaming for CRTC protections and subsidies. American programming provides entertainment and classic shows with "moral" underpinnings, like The Andy Griffith Show.

Since Yes TV is licensed by the CRTC as a religious channel, does this mean it is exempted from corporate taxes, furthering the advantage ?

[Guest]

My fave new one is a comedy called 'LetterKenny' shot in Sudbury of all places.

I was just introduced to it this weekend; it's hilarious!

[bush_cheney2004]

Some Canadians still whining or laughing about the Netflix crackdown on cross border hopping to get unlicensed content.

The recent Netflix crackdown on cross-border watchers has plenty of Canadians fuming. That's because they're now blocked from hopping virtual borders to watch Netflix shows restricted to other countries.

Some other Canadians are fuming too, but they have a different target. Complaints about the crackdown have sparked a backlash by people who feel the whiners got what they deserved.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/netflix-crackdown-border-hopping-1.3603460

[eyeball]

No need to whine when you can torrent.

Edited May 29, 2016 by eyeball

[overthere]

I'm not going to argue with your tastes, but do you understand why APTN and CPAC are part of it?

CanCon requirements, that's why. Big, quota crunching lumps of Can Con. In 2016.

And that is really the turd on the table: why is it that we need strict government regulation in 2016 to define ourselves as a country with an identifiable culture? I think it was Coyne who asked if the country makes the culture, or the culture makes the country?

[cybercoma]

Even if there wasn't CanCon requirements, I guarantee you APTN and CPAC would be required offerings.

[bush_cheney2004]

And that is really the turd on the table: why is it that we need strict government regulation in 2016 to define ourselves as a country with an identifiable culture? I think it was Coyne who asked if the country makes the culture, or the culture makes the country?

Well, in 2016, that still includes consuming copious amounts of American content, even if it means getting it illegally.

[eyeball]

Why is it unethical to share global content in a global economy when free market forces are thwarted from delivering?

[Guest]

More damn Cricket, that's what I say.

[bush_cheney2004]

Why is it unethical to share global content in a global economy when free market forces are thwarted from delivering?

Because it undermines "Canadian culture" according to the CRTC and CBC.

[waldo]

Because it undermines "Canadian culture" according to the CRTC and CBC.

such a misguided and uninformed post from someone who presumes to be so knowledgeable on Canada/Canadians. The Canadian Content (CanCon) definition is so readily available... there's no need for you to conflate/confuse things with your quotation marks around... Canadian culture.

- towards CanCon, the Canadian broadcasting system should encourage the development of Canadian expression by:

• Providing a wide range of programming that reflects Canadian attitudes, opinions, ideas, values, and artistic creativity
• Displaying Canadian talent in entertainment programming
• Offering information and analysis concerning Canada and other countries from a Canadian point of view

of course, an element of that encouragement of Canadian expression is the Canada Media Fund, partially funded by Canadian cable, satellite and IPTV providers. It was Harper Conservatives in 2014 that put in motion the CRTC call to stakeholders, "seeking input on a new tax to level the playing field over concerns of foreign corporate 'giants' holding advantage". That overall feedback received helped to shape some of the March 2015 changes/decisions the CRTC made concerning CanCon.

as for the so-called initially considered 'Netflix Tax', that was intended to have foreign entities also contribute to the Canada Media Fund, as Canadian cable, satellite and IPTV providers do. And yes, CBC/Radio-Canada was among those calling for this related regulation of online video services... along with the likes of the Canadian Media Production Association, the Director's Guild of Canada, the Alliance Of Canadian Cinema Television & Radio Artists (ACTRA), etc..

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[bush_cheney2004]

American programming continues to dominate national Canadian television ratings (English)...from Numeris Topline data:

http://assets.numeris.ca/Downloads/May%209,%202016%20-%20May%2015,%202016%20%28National%29.pdf

[waldo]

the continued posting of Numeris ratings shows the Canadian Broadcasting Act (and the CRTC regulator) have showcased grounds to support the mandated direction to encourage the development of Canadian expression through more CanCon! Thanks to the MLW member for reinforcing those grounds - well done.

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[cybercoma]

Well, in 2016, that still includes consuming copious amounts of American content, even if it means getting it illegally.

Even the MLB has its CanCon requirements with the foreign Canadian team beating the historically beloved Yankees.

[overthere]

And yes, CBC/Radio-Canada was among those calling for this related regulation of online video services... along with the likes of the Canadian Media Production Association, the Director's Guild of Canada, the Alliance Of Canadian Cinema Television & Radio Artists (ACTRA), etc..

Well of course that crew wants CanCon. How else would they get paid handsomely to continue to crank out turd after govt mandated(and often funded) turd, without having to worry about job security or actually getting anybody to watch it?

[bush_cheney2004]

Well of course that crew wants CanCon. How else would they get paid handsomely to continue to crank out turd after govt mandated(and often funded) turd, without having to worry about job security or actually getting anybody to watch it?

Sure seems that way....a mandated pool of funding doled out to make more CanCon "turds".

Then it gets weird....Canadian Netflix subscribers want access to the U.S. flavour over Canada's, to the point of using VPNs to counter geoblocking and enforcement of content licensing.

The CRTC is purpose built to defend protectionism and lack of telco/cable competition.

[waldo]

Well of course that crew wants CanCon. How else would they get paid handsomely to continue to crank out turd after govt mandated(and often funded) turd, without having to worry about job security or actually getting anybody to watch it?

paid handsomely? Published ACTRA union rates are readily available; however, full time work isn't... isn't anywhere near available. I'll let you update my 2009 dated figure of ~$12,000 yearly for members with performance income. Handsomely? What kind of, as you say, job-security do you envision members of ACTRA have?

can we put you down in the column of wanting better/more CanCon?

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[waldo]

Then it gets weird....Canadian Netflix subscribers want access to the U.S. flavour over Canada's, to the point of using VPNs to counter geoblocking and enforcement of content licensing.

are you able to delineate that to 'specific American content flavour', notwithstanding the stats I read speak to but a 1/3 of Canadian subscribers have followed that practice. Specificity would help in that Netflix (among others) has launched initiatives across it's world-wide customer base to block proxy and VPN services access, principally because it has many country specific content license agreements that are being 'skirted'. Apparently, many Canadians were keen to access content from European and Asian countries not available within the Netflix Canada offering - imagine that!

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The CRTC is purpose built to defend protectionism and lack of telco/cable competition.

this makes no sense in the context of your focused emphasis on Netflix - does it? And no, that most certainly is not the purpose of the CRTC. Your interest in Canadian regulation is prominent through your posting history, although that's unclear why you would have such particular interest in the inner-workings of a foreign country's regulatory processes - perhaps you could elaborate on that. As for the CRTC, per the Canadian Broadcasting Act, encouraging Canadian expression is not protectionist - is it? Protection against who/what?

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[WestCoastRunner]

I have no problem with CanCon. It goes back to the days of radio play. It's a great policy to have up and coming Canadian artists get their AirPlay.im pretty sure Gordie would be on board with this as many, many other artists.