Black Racial Violence against Whites.

Argus · May 19, 2015

Wait a minute here.

It was black African warlords, who were selling captured slaves from rival tribes to white European ship Captains.

Sure. But they took slaves as part of a cultural heritage where enemies were enslaved. The Europeans, including the US, and of course, the Arabs, used African slaves because they saw them as racially inferior, less than human, as it were.

Bonam · May 20, 2015

Sure. But they took slaves as part of a cultural heritage where enemies were enslaved. The Europeans, including the US, and of course, the Arabs, used African slaves because they saw them as racially inferior, less than human, as it were.

And one of these is somehow better than the other? Enslave someone because they are "your enemy" or enslave them because they are "inferior"... it's all the same in the end, they end up enslaved. Viewing your enemies as "less than human" is pretty typical, in any case.

As for this part of history being the "bedrock of racism"... gah you North Americans are so self-centered in your historical perspectives it is ridiculous. Romans were enslaving people based on race thousands of years ago. And no, race doesn't just mean black/white. Thracians, Iberians, Gauls, Greeks... those were races to the Romans. Jews were a race from the point of view of the Germans, and remain considered so in most of the world today except in North America where people are very confused about the concept of race and think their own historical racial dichotomy is the be all end all on the subject. The different races of Asia have a long history of racial animosity, as well, extending far into ancient times.

H10 · May 22, 2015

And one of these is somehow better than the other? Enslave someone because they are "your enemy" or enslave them because they are "inferior"... it's all the same in the end, they end up enslaved. Viewing your enemies as "less than human" is pretty typical, in any case.

As for this part of history being the "bedrock of racism"... gah you North Americans are so self-centered in your historical perspectives it is ridiculous. Romans were enslaving people based on race thousands of years ago. And no, race doesn't just mean black/white. Thracians, Iberians, Gauls, Greeks... those were races to the Romans. Jews were a race from the point of view of the Germans, and remain considered so in most of the world today except in North America where people are very confused about the concept of race and think their own historical racial dichotomy is the be all end all on the subject. The different races of Asia have a long history of racial animosity, as well, extending far into ancient times.

Turks enslaved greeks for about the same amount of time Americans enslaved blacks. When Greece became independent, the Greeks were allowed to go back to greece and continue living as Greeks. They were not robbed of their language, their culture, this history, their woman were not massed raped by turks, they did not pass laws in turkey making it illegal for a greek to read a book under punishment of death or legal for turkish women to murder greek children. Slavery is a very politically correct euphinism for what went on to african americans on this continent. When the Babylonians and egyptians enslaved jews, you know what happened when slavery was over? They went back to normal life being jews? They were not robbed of their religion, their language, their culture, their history and the names their mothers gave them.

Slavery is a nice euphemism for a giant cultural genocide and ethnic cleansing against africans in the americas. And when this genocide was over they went on saying blacks were 3/5ths a human for the next 100+ years or so.

It wasn't the theft of labour that was so damaging it was the white supremacist ideology and the anti-africanism, the ethnic cleansing and genocide, the KKK going around and murdering out the leaders of the black community. No other group of peoples save native americans and aborignes had this done to them.

bush_cheney2004 · May 22, 2015

Slavery is/was an economic system common to many places and history in the world.

H10 · May 22, 2015

Slavery is/was an economic system common to many places and history in the world.

Undoubtedly, genocide and ethnic cleansing not so much. Anyways, we can only harp on the past so much. At a certain point we have to look at what we can do to try to repair the damage that has been done by such systems. And in comparison to other countries, America, although it has a long way to go, has probably done the most after South Africa to step into the right direction of righting peoples it has wronged. Its far from perfect and alot of work is left to go but at least America has done something to try to balance the scales.

Bonam · May 23, 2015

Undoubtedly, genocide and ethnic cleansing not so much.

On the contrary, genocide and ethnic cleansing have occurred all throughout human history, in all or almost all parts of the world.

jbg · May 23, 2015

Now there is yet another incident to throw into the stirring pot. In Washington State, two hard-working teens were shoplifting beer. They threw the beer at an employee that confronted them. The police then shot and wounded the striving teens.

Hundreds are demanding justice.Hundreds protest Washington police shooting of 2 unarmed men (link)

Je suis Omar · May 23, 2015

Slavery is/was an economic system common to many places and history in the world.

That lame defense doesn't wash. Had you attempted that phony excuse as a German Nazi at Nuremberg, the Americans still would have hung you.

Je suis Omar · May 23, 2015

On the contrary, genocide and ethnic cleansing have occurred all throughout human history, in all or almost all parts of the world.

And many have been executed for those crimes. Why haven't any Brits or Americans?

Argus · May 26, 2015

And many have been executed for those crimes. Why haven't any Brits or Americans?

Cuz they haven't done it and don't do it.

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

That's natures law of the strongest. You're just being a well balanced hypocrite. What gives us the right to enslave cattle, or chickens, for the purpose of killing and eating them.

What gives any predator the right to run down and kill any other animal? You're domesticated to believe about rights. Brainwashed even. The Lion kills because he has the speed and strength to do it.

Or are you saying Nature is unbalanced and stupid? And you're smarter then nature?

So if someone runs into you on the street, kicks the shit out of you and takes your phone and wallet, I trust you won't go to the police since, clearly, you were the inferior specimen?

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

Cuz they haven't done it and don't do it.

Historically? Of course they have.

Freddy · May 26, 2015

So if someone runs into you on the street, kicks the shit out of you and takes your phone and wallet, I trust you won't go to the police since, clearly, you were the inferior specimen?

In nature their is no such thing as police. What you may do is call a few of your friends. . This is why community and tribes mattered.

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

In nature their is no such thing as police. What you may do is call a few of your friends. . This is why community and tribes mattered.

Cool. Can I have your address and current model of cellphone?

Freddy · May 26, 2015

Cool. Can I have your address and current model of cellphone?

All I was pointing out is how Rule of Law has distorted our reality. We no longer recognize That the United States can do whatever the hell it wants because no one can do anything about it. And since we are their allies we benefit from this.

Since at a international level there is no police you can call when the United States do something you don't approve. That means that at a international level. Rule of Nature still applies. laws of the strongest.

This is where people like Omar can't understand why. Because they are so used to living under rule of laws, They can't comprehend.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Freddy

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

All I was pointing out is how Rule of Law has distorted our reality.

And we're better off for it.

Freddy · May 26, 2015

And we're better off for it.

Maybe, But it eliminates survival of the strongest, This is the first time that happens on earth, where one species is not obeying to this universal law of nature.

If we consume everything on earth because of overpopulation due to Rule of Law, are we still better off with it?

Freddy · May 26, 2015

I love rule of law as much as you. But I also can see how Nature does not have unlimited resources. This is why I support rule of law within my country and allies, but have absolutely no problem with War and genocide of other countries and races that do not follow or prioritize the same values then myself and those of my tribe.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Freddy

Michael Hardner · May 26, 2015

I love rule of law as much as you.

How can you say that when you're saying "might makes right" at the same time ?

This is why I support rule of law within my country and allies, but have absolutely no problem with War and genocide of other countries and races that do not follow or prioritize the same values then myself and those of my tribe.

Ok, so social order and peace is not for other people. If you don't respect law and order in other countries, you shouldn't expect others to respect it here either.

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

Maybe, But it eliminates survival of the strongest, This is the first time that happens on earth, where one species is not obeying to this universal law of nature.

Survival of the strongest is not a universal natural law.

If we consume everything on earth because of overpopulation due to Rule of Law, are we still better off with it?

No more than if we slaughter ourselves as a species in some struggle for natural dominance.

I love rule of law as much as you.

No you don't.

But I also can see how Nature does not have unlimited resources. This is why I support rule of law within my country and allies, but have absolutely no problem with War and genocide of other countries and races that do not follow or prioritize the same values then myself and those of my tribe.

And if your group were to find itself on the outs, you'd accept your slaughter with dignity, I'm sure.

Freddy · May 26, 2015

Survival of the strongest is not a universal law

. Oh so you're one of those Adam and Eve kind of human. Definitely waisted my time talking to you.

And if your group were to find itself on the outs, you'd accept your slaughter with dignity, I'm sure.

I'd be dead it's not like I'd have much of a choice. If all this is to complicated for you, don't worry about it.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Freddy

Freddy · May 26, 2015

My point is, that extreme rule of law is as bad as extreme anarchy. Both extreme will destroy us. Can you understand that?

Edited May 26, 2015 by Freddy

Freddy · May 26, 2015

How can you say that when you're saying "might makes right" at the same time ?

Because rule of law can help my own country "tribe" grow.

Ok, so social order and peace is not for other people.

other countries can adopt any laws they want I really don't care. If they are similar to ours I may view them as potential allies.

If you don't respect law and order in other countries, you shouldn't expect others to respect it here either.

I only expect other countries to respect the size of my army and those of my allies. Edited May 26, 2015 by Freddy

Black Dog · May 26, 2015

. Oh so you're one of those Adam and Eve kind of human. Definitely waisted my time talking to you.

Dunno what that means, but I do know how to spell "wasted". I also know that survival of the strongest is a poor descriptor for evolution by natural selection.