jbg Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Posted September 18, 2014 Fixing a sink doesn't make you a plumber. Checking a box on a ballot doesn't make you a Democrat.In our country its by registration with the County Board of Elections. I registered in May 1975. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted September 19, 2014 Report Posted September 19, 2014 In our country its by registration with the County Board of Elections. I registered in May 1975. You mean it's not possible for an unemployed radical right-wing extremist islamophobe to have registered as a democrat 40 years ago? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted September 19, 2014 Report Posted September 19, 2014 In our country its by registration with the County Board of Elections. I registered in May 1975. I don't doubt that at all. The current party has drifted far far from what it was. JFK could no longer run as a Democrat. He'd never get the nomination of that party anymore. He'd probably have to run as a Republican nowadays. Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 19, 2014 Report Posted September 19, 2014 I think JFK would still fit in fine with the Democrats, but Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt could never run as Republicans. Can you imagine a Republican "fighting the bosses" to give the working man a square deal like Roosevelt did throughout his political career? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
kimmy Posted September 20, 2014 Report Posted September 20, 2014 Am I wrong or is this not descending into Donald Trump kind of silliness? It was already there starting with the first post. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
On Guard for Thee Posted September 20, 2014 Report Posted September 20, 2014 I think everybody that is in such a hurry to beat up on Obama should go crawl under Iraq, sorry, a rock. Look at the crap he inherited from the two war criminals, bush/cheney. Oh well, that's all been said before. They won't ever get it. They'll just head for the Tea Party and start it all ove reagan. Quote
Argus Posted September 20, 2014 Report Posted September 20, 2014 I think JFK would still fit in fine with the Democrats, but Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt could never run as Republicans. Can you imagine a Republican "fighting the bosses" to give the working man a square deal like Roosevelt did throughout his political career? I think it's been pointed out several times than Ronald Reagan would be laughed out of the hall if he tried to run as a Republican today. He'd be accused of being a bleeding heart, big tax and spend liberal Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 You mean it's not possible for an unemployed radical right-wing extremist islamophobe to have registered as a democrat 40 years ago?If you want to make a personal attack at least get your facts straight. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 If you want to make a personal attack at least get your facts straight. Youre a personal attack on yourself. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
BubberMiley Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 If you want to make a personal attack at least get your facts straight. I was questioning the basis of your argument, not making a personal attack. But I guess that's a way of avoiding my question. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 I don't doubt that at all. The current party has drifted far far from what it was. I can see how it might look that way from the standpoint of a superfan of the party that has been pulled so very far to the right. JFK could no longer run as a Democrat. He'd never get the nomination of that party anymore. He'd probably have to run as a Republican nowadays. LOLOLOLOLOL Quote
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) In our country its by registration with the County Board of Elections. I registered in May 1975. Edited September 22, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) You mean it's not possible for an unemployed radical right-wing extremist islamophobe to have registered as a democrat 40 years ago?If you want to make a personal attack at least get your facts straight.I was questioning the basis of your argument, not making a personal attack. But I guess that's a way of avoiding my question.OK. Here goes.I am employed; I am to the left of cenger (edited to center to fix typo caught by Black Dog); I am not an Islamaphobe; and I am not only a registered Democrat but also quite politically active. Does this answer your questions? Youre a personal attack on yourself. You can't spell; and You make no sense. There is a lot to discuss about Obama, both pro and con. Why the necessity to look for personal angles to attack? Edited September 22, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 OK. Here goes. I am employed; I am to the left of cenger; I am not an Islamaphobe; and I am not only a registered Democrat but also quite politically active. Does this answer your questions? You can't spell; and You make no sense. There is a lot to discuss about Obama, both pro and con. Why the necessity to look for personal angles to attack? lol lol Quote
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 lol lolFixed. Thanks for your edit. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) Fixed. Thanks for your edit. Now you just have to fix the whole thing about you pretending to be left of centre when absolutely none of the positions you've expressed on any given issue would conform to that alignment. Edited September 22, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 Now you just have to fix the whole thing about you pretending to be left of centre when absolutely none of the positions you've expressed on any given issue would conform to that alignment. I favor women and blacks voting and having full participation rights in society. I am pro-choice. I am in favor of expansion of national parks and making them truer to nature. I was a major supporter of wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone.1 I believe women should have full societal rights, including driving, and not being subject to degrading and random rape. I am in favor of gays having full civil and employment rights. I am against beheading people because they are gay, or members of a racial or religious minority. Conservatives, by contrast, believe and behave to the contrary. Radical Islam is often described as a deeply conservative philosophy. 1The wolves indeed have "Canadian content." They were from BC and AB. Also, I scratched the head of two animals that are closely related to wolves yesterday and they licked my hand. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 I favor women and blacks voting and having full participation rights in society. I am pro-choice. I believe women should have full societal rights, including driving, and not being subject to degrading and random rape. ROFLMAO. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 ROFLMAO. Was what I posted funny? Go to ISIS held territory and see conservatism in action. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) I favor women and blacks voting and having full participation rights in society. I am pro-choice. I am in favor of expansion of national parks and making them truer to nature. I was a major supporter of wolf reintroduction to Yellowstone.1 I believe women should have full societal rights, including driving, and not being subject to degrading and random rape. I am in favor of gays having full civil and employment rights. I am against beheading people because they are gay, or members of a racial or religious minority. Conservatives, by contrast, believe and behave to the contrary. Radical Islam is often described as a deeply conservative philosophy. As I suspected, for you to be considered left of centre requires shifting the centre far to the right towards the extreme end of the spectrum. Edited September 22, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
Shady Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Was what I posted funny? Go to ISIS held territory and see conservatism in action. If you don't fall into line on every issue than you're not a real"liberal". It's become quite the intransigent dogma. Quote
Shady Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) I can see how it might look that way from the standpoint of a superfan of the party that has been pulled so very far to the right. LOLOLOLOLOL JFK was a big tax cutter and war hawk. He'd be destroyed by the modern Dem party. Look what they did to Joe Lieberman. Edited September 22, 2014 by Shady Quote
dre Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 Was what I posted funny? Go to ISIS held territory and see conservatism in action. Yup pretty humorous. You used your belief that women should be allowed to drive cars, vote, and not be raped to support your silly claim that youre not a far-right hack. Think about that for a minute.... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Author Report Posted September 22, 2014 Yup pretty humorous. You used your belief that women should be allowed to drive cars, vote, and not be raped to support your silly claim that youre not a far-right hack. Think about that for a minute.... The term "hack" is quite derogatory unless you're dealing with cab drivers. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted September 22, 2014 Report Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) If you don't fall into line on every issue than you're not a real "liberal". It's become quite the intransigent dogma. I'm surprised you would defend the statement that ISIS is conservatism in action. Personally, I disagree. I think conservatives in this country are far more moderate than your average-joe Islamic extremist. Do you really mean to say that the conservativism you practice is less "intransigent" and is big-tent enough to include ISIS, or were you just misunderstanding what jbg was saying? Edited September 22, 2014 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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