WestCoastRunner Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 Do you honestly think they are helping the situation? You are the one who said they are not. Please back up that statement. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 You are the one who said they are not. Please back up that statement. Well, It's an opinion, just like your opinion. However, what is fact; is that Al Sharpton is an agitator. He's not there for support, he's there to agitate the populous. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 Well, It's an opinion, just like your opinion. However, what is fact; is that Al Sharpton is an agitator. He's not there for support, he's there to agitate the populous. Please provide a reliable cite for your 'fact'. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
cybercoma Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 Well, It's an opinion, just like your opinion. However, what is fact; is that Al Sharpton is an agitator. He's not there for support, he's there to agitate the populous. saying someone is or is not in a gang or violence is or is not gang related is not opinion. These are verifiable facts. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 Please provide a reliable cite for your 'fact'. ag·i·ta·tor noun \ˈa-jə-ˌtā-tər\ : a person who tries to get people angry or upset so that they will support an effort to change a government, company, etc. : one that agitates: as a : one who stirs up public feeling on controversial issues<political agitators> In this computer age, have people really just given up on common sense? Do you really need a cite to understand a simple term. The guy is an agitator - he knows it, we all know it! It's no secret. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
WestCoastRunner Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 ag·i·ta·tor noun \ˈa-jə-ˌtā-tər\ : a person who tries to get people angry or upset so that they will support an effort to change a government, company, etc. : one that agitates: as a : one who stirs up public feeling on controversial issues<political agitators In this computer age, have people really just given up on common sense? Do you really need a cite to understand a simple term. The guy is an agitator - he knows it, we all know it! It's no secret. nice try. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Hal 9000 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 saying someone is or is not in a gang or violence is or is not gang related is not opinion. These are verifiable facts. I'm sure a lot of black murders are gang related, but I found it a little awkward that he so easily stereotyped the black community that way - to cheers of approval from the left. I can only imagine the outrage had O'Reilly said that. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hal 9000 Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 nice try. Yeah, it's called common sense - what are you looking for? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
dre Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) OK. Maybe if you don't like the way I say it maybe you'll like the way Jesse Jackson said it in this April 13, 1976 article in the New York Times Magazine. I remembered reading it in my college days.(link, excerpts below) (I will e-mail anyone interested the full PDF of the article, just PM me): Give the People a Vision A civil-rights veteran calls for a new 'self-development' crusade. Black Americans, he says, must take greater responsibility for their own plight. The thrust of my argument is that black Americans must begin to accept a larger share of responsibility for their lives. For too many years we have been crying that racism and oppression have kept us down. That is ,true, and racism and oppression have to be fought on every front. But to fight any battle takes soldiers who are strong, healthy, spirited, committed, welltrained and confident. This is particularly true when the enemy is as tough and elusive as American racism. I don't believe that we will produce strong soldiers by moaning. about what' the enemy has done to us. It is time, I think, for us to stand up, admit to our failures and weaknesses and begin to strengthen ourselves. ******************* We too often condemn blacks who succeed and excel, calling them Toms and the like, when the ideal ought to be for all of us to succeed and excel. We are allowing a minuscule minority of criminals in our midst to create disorder, ruin our schools and sap the energy we need to rebuild our neighborhoods and our cities. Many leaders who are black, and many white liberals, will object to my discussing these things in public. But the decadence in black communities--killings, destruction of our own businesses, violence in the schoolsis already in the headlines; the only question is what we should do about it. Others will object that to demand that we must meet the challenge of self-government is to put too much pressure on the victims of ancient wrongs. Yet ill spite of these objections, in spite of yesterday's agony, liberation struggles are built on sweat and pain rather than tears and complaints. (snip) Now, are you going to accuse Jesse Jackson of being a racist? Or an opportunist who changes his tune? I'm not sure but his words of wisdom then resonate now. I guess Jesse must be one of those "self hating jews blacks" we are always hearing about. LOL. Edited August 30, 2014 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted August 30, 2014 Report Posted August 30, 2014 I'm sure a lot of black murders are gang related, but I found it a little awkward that he so easily stereotyped the black community that way - to cheers of approval from the left. I can only imagine the outrage had O'Reilly said that.I'm sure if OReilly said the violence in Chicago is gang related no one would bat an eye because it's the truth. Quote
jbg Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Do you have anything to back up your comment that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are not helping the black youth community? Why should I have to prove a negative. Do you have any proof that they are? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 However, what is fact; is that Al Sharpton is an agitator. He's not there for support, he's there to agitate the populous.Please provide a reliable cite for your 'fact'.The fact is that Sharpton and, I believe Jackson have gotten involved in just about every racial conflagration, such as Tawana Brawley, Howard Beach, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I guess Jesse must be one of those "self hating jews blacks" we are always hearing about. LOL.The point is that the article appeared on April 13, 1976. Either his views were distorted by NYC's 37 degree Celsius heat that day or he opportunistically changed his position. Will the real Jesse Jackson please stand up? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
sharkman Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 The fact is that Sharpton and, I believe Jackson have gotten involved in just about every racial conflagration, such as Tawana Brawley, Howard Beach, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. They're like a couple of money chasing evangelists travelling from gig to gig, working up the faithful where ever they can. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 2, 2014 Author Report Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) The fact is that Sharpton and, I believe Jackson have gotten involved in just about every racial conflagration, such as Tawana Brawley, Howard Beach, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Yeah, why do these people involved in civil rights issues keep getting involved in civil rights issues? Edited September 2, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
jbg Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah, why do these people involved in civil rights issues keep getting involved in civil rights issues?My question is where are they with helping children from getting into violent confrontations with lawful authority? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Peter F Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I think the idea should be helping lawful authority avoid getting into violent confrontations with children Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
jbg Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 I think the idea should be helping lawful authority avoid getting into violent confrontations with childrenAre you saying that Brown was a child? And I am happy that you agree that Jackson and Sharpton should help lawfully constituted police authorities. Clearly they're not. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Black Dog Posted September 2, 2014 Author Report Posted September 2, 2014 (edited) My question is where are they with helping children from getting into violent confrontations with lawful authority? What do you suggest they do, exactly? Also, do you know what they do now? Edited September 2, 2014 by Black Dog Quote
cybercoma Posted September 2, 2014 Report Posted September 2, 2014 Why should I have to prove a negative. Do you have any proof that they are? Since you obviously didn't watch the Jon Stewart video and are insistent on flexing your ignorance in this thread, I will provide you with the link. http://abc7chicago.com/news/civil-rights-group-to-convene-anti-violence-summit-in-chicago/172589/ Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have condemned the violence in Chicago (and other places for that matter) over and over again. They are planning another summit of civil rights leaders in Chicago to address the issue, since the governments there have completely failed to do anything about it. They held one last November and have met in Chicago "at least three times since then" according to Stewart. So it's cool. Let's pretend that they're not doing anything about it. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 I see no response from JBG with his cites. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
jbg Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 I see no response from JBG with his cites.My response was why do I have to prove a negative? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted September 4, 2014 Report Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) It's a well known fact that you can spew any crap without citation just so long as you phrase it with the the word "not" in there. Edited September 4, 2014 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Bob Macadoo Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 Well looks like there is a new independent witness who reports Brown was chased down and shot......no ongoing struggle.....no charging.....I wonder how the police will impugn his reputation...... Quote
Black Dog Posted September 11, 2014 Author Report Posted September 11, 2014 Here's the story about the new eyewitness report: (CNN) -- Two men, shocked at what they saw, describe an unarmed teenager with his hands up in the air as he's gunned down by a police officer. They were contractors doing construction work in Ferguson, Missouri, on the day Michael Brown was killed. And the men, who asked not to be identified after CNN contacted them, said they were about 50 feet away from Officer Darren Wilson when he opened fire. An exclusive cell phone video captures their reactions during the moments just after the shooting. "He had his f**n hands up," one of the men says in the video. The man told CNN he heard one gunshot, then another shot about 30 seconds later. "The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said. That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up." The video shows the man raising his arms in the air -- just as, he says, Brown was doing when he was shot. The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car. Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him." The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned. Quote
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