cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Those are crimes. You can't just not cooperate with the police, no matter who you are. The case in New York did escalate to where it shouldn't have, but that isn't only because of the police. The case in Ferguson has been pretty much debunked at every level. So execution in the streets without a trial is the penalty for arguing with police now is it? Cool. That's a fine society you're standing up for. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 No, 99.9999999% of the time, force isn't used. If you're white. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 This was an accidental death intended by no one. Which one? Garner's? When a cop does something that's prohibited because it could cause serious bodily harm or death, then it's not an accident. Unless you also think getting shitfaced plastered and climbing behind the wheel then killing someone in a wreck is also an "accident." Quote
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 A false choice? I thought everyone would want cheaper smokes. I would agree. But unfortunately there are rules to selling them. Quote
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 If you're white. Nope, any colour! It's a statistical fact. Quote
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Maybe we can steer clear of insults. Not really helping this discussion. I agree. For some reason, a few of people in this topic feel the need to constantly throw personal insults around. Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 So execution in the streets without a trial is the penalty for arguing with police now is it? Cool. That's a fine society you're standing up for. Apparently you're living in a society that thrives on hyperbole. Quote
Smallc Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 If you're white. If you're not resisting, you mean. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 No, 99.9999999% of the time, force isn't used. Because people under arrest usually don't resist. If he was selling cigarettes in front of your house, what would you want the police to do if he refused to leave and stop? Do I detect more shady math? BTW, the man who owned the business in front of which Garner sold his loosies was his good friend. Quote
Shady Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Do I detect more shady math? BTW, the man who owned the business in front of which Garner sold his loosies was his good friend. The police were there on behalf of a request from the businesses on that street. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 The police were there on behalf of a request from the businesses on that street. So? Perhaps some of those other business owners were in the business of selling cigarettes too and didn't like the competition. Is that some sort of justification for him being killed? Quote
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 So? Perhaps some of those other business owners were in the business of selling cigarettes too and didn't like the competition. Is that some sort of justification for him being killed? Apparently Brown has a long rap sheet. Maybe the institution/process should not be called 'corrections'. Some people never change. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Nope, any colour! It's a statistical fact. The statistical facts have been posted. You don't get to make those up. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 Apparently you're living in a society that thrives on hyperbole. I live in a society where it's not ok for cops to act as judge, jury, and executioner on the streets because they had their fragile little egos crushed. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 11, 2014 Report Posted December 11, 2014 If you're not resisting, you mean. I mean, if you're white. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Why do we always break this down to a racism demographic? I would suggest that no matter the colour of a person, less educated people are shot more often than those with education, that someone who is poor or from a broken family has a greater chance than someone who is rich or has a good home life. There are more shootings per capita in the inner city than there is in the country and men are shot way more than women. Why are men shot by police more than women? Is there a war against men. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
jacee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Apparently Brown has a long rap sheet. Maybe the institution/process should not be called 'corrections'. Some people never change.?http://m.colorlines.com/archives/2014/09/everything_you_need_to_know_about_michael_browns_juvie_record.html " So there you have it. Michael Brown had no arrest recordand it wouldnt really matter if he did. " . Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Right...it didn't matter...because he was stupid enough to assault an armed police officer. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hal 9000 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 ? http://m.colorlines.com/archives/2014/09/everything_you_need_to_know_about_michael_browns_juvie_record.html " So there you have it. Michael Brown had no arrest recordand it wouldnt really matter if he did. " . Well, he picked the wrong day to do his very first bad thing when strong arm robbed a corner store, assaulted a police officer and tried to take his gun. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
jacee Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Well, he picked the wrong day to do his very first bad thing when strong arm robbed a corner store, assaulted a police officer and tried to take his gun..I'm just asking the question about his record. . Quote
GostHacked Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Well, he picked the wrong day to do his very first bad thing when strong arm robbed a corner store, assaulted a police officer and tried to take his gun. Aside from the store robbery, everything else is alleged. What were the reasons this cop decided to resign from the force? Quote
Argus Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 If it takes a drooling moron to think someone who obsesses over the evils of immigration, "black on black" crime and other favorite topics of the Stormfront set Why would anyone think I obsess over any specific topic when I contribute to virtually any topic which affects or influences this country's economy or budget? Oh, right, we're talking about a really dumb person. I forgot. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Hal 9000 Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Aside from the store robbery, everything else is alleged. What were the reasons this cop decided to resign from the force? Are you serious? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Argus Posted December 12, 2014 Report Posted December 12, 2014 Which one? Garner's? When a cop does something that's prohibited because it could cause serious bodily harm or death, then it's not an accident. The officer involved claimed he never exerted any pressure on the wind pipe. It's hard to tell in the video, but I've seen a few examples of professional choke holds on video since then and while his arm was across the man's neck it didn't look like it was a 'choke hold' as demonstrated, which made it legal. I'm not saying it didn't have some impact on Garner's breathing, but probably less than the weight on his back pushing his chest into the sidewalk. Anyway, this is probably one of the major reasons he wasn't indicted. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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