Shady Posted January 16, 2014 Report Posted January 16, 2014 Some pretty damning stuff for the Obama administration regarding the Benghazi terrorist attack was released this week. The bi-partisan Senate Intel Committee has released their report: Just days after the declassified transcripts revealed that President Barack Obama was personally briefed minutes into the deadly attack on an American consulate in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, the Senate Intelligence Committee has released the redacted version of their findings following an investigation into that attack. Documents released Monday showed that Obama was told by military officials that a sophisticated “terrorist attack” was underway in Benghazi as it was ongoing. On Wednesday, the findings of the Senate committee revealed that this deadly attack could have been prevented http://www.mediaite.com/online/senate-intel-committee-report-benghazi-attack-could-have-been-prevented/ Furthermore, Democrat Sen. Diane Feinstein appeared on CNN (not Fox News) and had some pretty interesting things to say Feinstein began by saying that there was “adequate intelligence” which “forewarned” of the potential for a deadly attack on the consulate in Benghazi. “We know there were concerns about Benghazi,” she continued. “We know there were training camps around that area, and it is something that I think the state department has to really come to grips with and see that we have 285 missions and embassies that, in fact, they are secure.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-feinstein-state-dept-has-to-come-to-grips-with-fact-that-benghazi-deaths-were-preventable/ . Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2014 Report Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) They screwed this up from day one and they are still screwing it up. The story is changing all the time. Obama, and Clinton need to be held accountable, but we wont see that. They had warnings, they knew what was going to take place, they allowed it to happen. They ALLOWED it to happen. A cover for gun running from Libya to Syria. Edited January 17, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
sharkman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Isn't Obama on the record shortly after this, blaming the obscure youtube video for the whole thing? So now it's proven that he knew better and lied his ass off about it. And now that he can't be hurt by the release of this information it comes out, and in 2016 Hilary can say the whole thing is on Obama. These Dems sure know how to take care of each other. Edited January 18, 2014 by sharkman Quote
bleeding heart Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 The more powerful you are, the less accountable you'll tend to be, at least usually. It's not about the Dems, it's about Power. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
sharkman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I didn't mention it, but that's what I was thinking in with the 'taking care of each other' part. This revelation comes out in the Dem controlled Senate, and Dem Senator Feinstein goes on CNN to make sure its out there that Obama knew. So they've set up a patsy or fall guy to blame when Hilary runs in 2016. Thus preserving the ownership of power in the Dem party. Meanwhile Christie better watch his back, the knives are out already. So I agree it is about power, but this particular story reveals something about the Dems' attempt to hold onto it, IMO. Edited January 18, 2014 by sharkman Quote
bleeding heart Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 Oh, I bet an assiduous researcher could uncover sly Dem attempts to retain power (or to take it away from other, Inappropriate Dems) on a weekly, if not daily, basis. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
GostHacked Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 The more powerful you are, the less accountable you'll tend to be, at least usually. It's not about the Dems, it's about Power. Correct. Being a Dem or a Rep is irrelevant. These idiots want power. And they will use that power for their own goals. Quote
sharkman Posted January 18, 2014 Report Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) I guess the way I see it, their goals are at times wildly different. I would add: so any person who wants power is an idiot? Personally I think there are perfectly fine people in both parties, and then there are extremists who will do anything to achieve their agenda. And Obama, who was willing to lie his ass off to the country about Benghazi, that single action shows him to be more of an extremist than anything else. And to do that knowing that top military people knew the truth, and knew that he was a liar, shows arrogance that is breathtaking. Edited January 19, 2014 by sharkman Quote
Shady Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Posted January 20, 2014 The more powerful you are, the less accountable you'll tend to be, at least usually. It's not about the Dems, it's about Power. Yeah right. Unless it's a Republican, then the mainstream media really starts to care. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 23, 2014 Report Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I guess the way I see it, their goals are at times wildly different. I would add: so any person who wants power is an idiot? Some are idiots, some are complete sociopaths. But it seems like the idiots get in power to ruin things for the rest of us. And to do that knowing that top military people knew the truth, and knew that he was a liar, shows arrogance that is breathtaking. I agree. Yeah right. Unless it's a Republican, then the mainstream media really starts to care. That depends on what channel you are watching. Fox is the right, CNN is the left. I'll use the term 'political atheist' to describe myself. Edited January 23, 2014 by GostHacked Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24, 2014 Report Posted January 24, 2014 CNN is left ? That's a laugh, and to me proof that the terms right and left have lost all utility. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
GostHacked Posted January 24, 2014 Report Posted January 24, 2014 CNN is left ? That's a laugh, and to me proof that the terms right and left have lost all utility. The are maybe center left. CNN bashed Bush, loves Obama. Fox loved Bush, bashes Obama. But you are correct the terms 'left' and 'right' to describe political stance has lost it's utility. I've been saying that for some time. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 24, 2014 Report Posted January 24, 2014 But you are correct the terms 'left' and 'right' to describe political stance has lost it's utility. I've been saying that for some time. Agreed. I think we'll know true left when we see it, and I expect to start seeing it soon. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
dre Posted January 24, 2014 Report Posted January 24, 2014 CNN is a way right of center corporate mouthpiece. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
WWWTT Posted January 25, 2014 Report Posted January 25, 2014 The more powerful you are, the less accountable you'll tend to be, at least usually. It's not about the Dems, it's about Power. I think if you go back all the way to Kennedy, it seems that everyone in the white house was a travelling road side freak show to some degree. Obama, as far as I'm concerned has a lot of blood on his hands. Can you imagine if Hilary was president! OMG! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
GostHacked Posted January 25, 2014 Report Posted January 25, 2014 Agreed. I think we'll know true left when we see it, and I expect to start seeing it soon. There is no true left, there is no true right. There is only politics. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 25, 2014 Report Posted January 25, 2014 Can you imagine if Hilary was president! She cannot get into the White House. She has a closet full of past scandals that make her unqualified to be POTUS. She was in more control of this operation than Obama was. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 25, 2014 Report Posted January 25, 2014 She cannot get into the White House. She has a closet full of past scandals that make her unqualified to be POTUS. First question: Can she get into the White House ? This question is about campaign analysis, as early as it is. Certainly some polls say that this impacts here however we're a year away from the campaign getting hot and there are a lot of other factors besides one scandal that could play into it. That assessment of mine, by the way, also stands for Gov. Chris Christie. Here's an interesting analysis: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/benghazi-attack-why-well-never-stop-arguing-101592.html#.UuP8dmQo5sM Second question: Is she qualified ? It seems like you're saying based on scandals, she's not. I for one would be willing to forgive politicians acting outside of moral circles if they're competent. After all, they're politicians. But I revisited the links above and it seems to me the worst of this story would come from knowing that there were warnings about an impending attack that were not acted upon. That sounds really familiar to me. As in, the 9/11 attacks. I didn't blame GW Bush's government for not acting to prevent 9/11, nor would I blame B Obama's government for not acting to prevent something much smaller. And GW Bush got re-elected, so there you go. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted January 25, 2014 Report Posted January 25, 2014 She cannot get into the White House. She has a closet full of past scandals that make her unqualified to be POTUS. She was in more control of this operation than Obama was. I agree that she has skeletons in her closet, but the MSM machine can do wonders with the candidate they prefer, so I remain skeptical that scandals alone would keep her out of the White House. Some recent developments seem to be designed to pin the blame for Benghazi on the administration, leaving her in a better light. And Christie better watch his back, any negative story will be put under the microscope. I fully expect some kind of slimy documentary on Christie to be released the fall of 2016 should he make it that far. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 I agree that she has skeletons in her closet, but the MSM machine can do wonders with the candidate they prefer, so I remain skeptical that scandals alone would keep her out of the White House. Of course you're right. The flip side is that the MSM can keep a non-scandal in the news way past the point where people would normally care about it. This scandal could be one of those. If a Democrat was in power for 9/11, I would imagine that FOX News would be far more critical of the administration than, say, CNN was of the Bush administration. In any case, any so-called failures didn't stick to Bush in any meaningful way, nor should they have. And Christie better watch his back, any negative story will be put under the microscope. I fully expect some kind of slimy documentary on Christie to be released the fall of 2016 should he make it that far. Uh.... maybe you haven't been following the news recently ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 Are you referring to the Bridge traffic scandal? Or is there already a 'documentary' in the works? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 Are you referring to the Bridge traffic scandal? Yes that's the one. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 Yeah, I expect Christie will be crucified before 2016. Perhaps a mover and shaker is lying in the weeds, biding his time and lining up finances kind of like how Bush Jr did. Or not. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 26, 2014 Report Posted January 26, 2014 There is another Bush around too I think ... Chip or Dale Jr. or something. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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