Topaz Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 The US is opening a horse slaughter house and the meat is being exported and since the Canadian government is allowing more foods from the US to come into Canada, I be weary buying meat from a grocery store. Many groups, within the US say the horses aren't safe to eat because they are given substance that isn't allow in food products. On the Dr. Oz Show, they found even the label on the meat package said beef, when they tested it, its was horse. Has anyone had horse meat? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-approves-horse-slaughterhouse-sees-two-more-plants-002957259.html Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 So medical advice from U.S. TV shows is OK in Canada, but not U.S horse meat ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 Id eat horse meat. I've heard that its quite good. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 If it's good enough for pampered pets...it's good enough for me. Please pass the ketchup !! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) The US is opening a horse slaughter house and the meat is being exported and since the Canadian government is allowing more foods from the US to come into Canada, I be weary buying meat from a grocery store. Many groups, within the US say the horses aren't safe to eat because they are given substance that isn't allow in food products. On the Dr. Oz Show, they found even the label on the meat package said beef, when they tested it, its was horse. Has anyone had horse meat? http://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-approves-horse-slaughterhouse-sees-two-more-plants-002957259.html "Horse meat cannot be sold as food in the United States, but it can be exported." Evidently it can be sold as food in Canada - and is. Smoked horse meat is normally a popular item at Ben’s Meat and Deli in west Edmonton, but more customers at the Dutch specialty shop are interested in trying it lately. The widespread, false labelling of horse meat sold as beef across Europe — in products that included frozen meatballs, burgers, lasagna, pizza topping and meat pies — temporarily hurt overseas exports from Alberta’s horse meat industry. The scandal temporarily killed demand for Alberta horse meat, shipped mainly to Japan, France and Switzerland. Now that European authorities have determined the source of mislabelled horse meat was likely a Polish supplier, the horse meat industry here could see a peculiar perk. Canada already has slaughter houses for horses. Oops! Forgot to include the link: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/life/More+Canadians+willing+horse+meat+wake+scandal/8042763/story.html Edited June 30, 2013 by American Woman Quote
kimmy Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I believe horse meat is considered a delicacy amongst the French, is it not? (hopefully this is not construed as racist.) -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
BubberMiley Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 I think horses have done too much work for humans for us to eat them. Like dogs, our relationship is too close. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
The_Squid Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Moose is good.... Horse is probably similar. As long as the animal is treated humanely and it is safe as food, then I don't really see a problem. Why can't horse meat be sold in the USA? Sounds like big gov't socialism to me.... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Why can't horse meat be sold in the USA? Sounds like big gov't socialism to me.... Because they are not intended as food animals, horses are given medications banned from other livestock, [...] questioning if the meat would be safe. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/28/19195232-ok-to-slaughter-horses-for-meat-federal-agency-tells-new-mexico-plant?lite We don't sell cat or dog meat, either, or guinea pig meat for that matter. Same in Canada. It's because they are raised as pets, not livestock. Quote
The_Squid Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Even if a farm raises them as livestock they would be banned from selling horses for meat. Big gov't telling Americans what they can eat. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 Even if a farm raises them as livestock they would be banned from selling horses for meat. Big gov't telling Americans what they can eat. As I already pointed out, your government does the same; however, there are no laws against eating horse meat, just against selling it. Quote
The_Squid Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 As I already pointed out, your government does the same; however, there are no laws against eating horse meat, just against selling it. But in Canada, horse meat can be sold. So Canada doesn't do the same. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted June 30, 2013 Report Posted June 30, 2013 But in Canada, horse meat can be sold. So Canada doesn't do the same.Can cat or dog meat be sold? What about guinea pig? Canada most definitely does do the same. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 Can cat or dog meat be sold? What about guinea pig?Canada most definitely does do the same. We are talking about horse... The OP is about horse... Horse is whats on the menu in Canada. So, no... We are not the same. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 We are talking about horse... The OP is about horse... Horse is whats on the menu in Canada. So, no... We are not the same. You said: "Big gov't telling Americans what they can eat." Your government is no different, as your government restricts what can be sold for food in your country, too. Quote
Wilber Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 Seems like a silly argument to me. Most countries have restrictions on what can be sold as food, why pick on just one of them. In a way I agree with BubberMily, the great majority of horses raised in North America are not for the purpose of livestock but for pleasure, competition, working animals or pets. Sending them to an abattoir seems a cruel reward for the service they have provided. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) As it was already said most horses have medication in them, NOT suitable for humans, so the US exports. Now, if its exported to Canada , does that mean Canadians are eating meat that can, down the road make them very sick?? Also, its very hard to tell the difference between beef and horse meat. Edited July 1, 2013 by Topaz Quote
WWWTT Posted July 1, 2013 Report Posted July 1, 2013 Id eat horse meat. I've heard that its quite good. So would I. I've also heard that European soccer players use it because of the protein content,or something along those lines. I have eaten Bison,but I didn't like it. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
guyser Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Can cat or dog meat be sold? What about guinea pig? Canada most definitely does do the same. Dog meat can be consumed and sold in canada legally. In many cases in the USA one can buy dog meat and one can also consume dog meat for personal consumption. Guinea pig can be sold and eaten in the US and Canada. So there is a difference. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 Dog meat can be consumed and sold in canada legally. In many cases in the USA one can buy dog meat and one can also consume dog meat for personal consumption. Guinea pig can be sold and eaten in the US and Canada. So there is a difference. So dog meat can be sold legally if it's been inspected, but evidently cat meat can't, so your government is telling you what what can and can't be sold as food - especially since it has to "be inspected." There is no difference, as your country tells you what can and can't be sold as meat same as in the U.S. Just as I said. Quote
guyser Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 AWWe don't sell cat or dog meat, either, or guinea pig meat for that matter. Same in Canada. It's because they are raised as pets, not livestock. Wrong Just as I said Wrongly ...except for cat. I can buy dog meat legally , you cant. So there is a difference But yes, we have laws and the US has laws.....if that is your whole point. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 But yes, we have laws and the US has laws.....if that is your whole point. IF that is my whole point? This isn't clear enough for you?? "Your government is no different, as your government restricts what can be sold for food in your country, too." Quote
The_Squid Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 IF that is my whole point? This isn't clear enough for you?? "Your government is no different, as your government restricts what can be sold for food in your country, too." We just have less restrictions... Quote
guyser Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 IF that is my whole point? This isn't clear enough for you?? "Your government is no different, as your government restricts what can be sold for food in your country, too." You said, and I quote 'We don't sell cat or dog meat, either, or guinea pig meat for that matter. Same in Canada" I replied, no thats not correct. Its not the same i Canada For some reason, you seem hung up on the minor point that Canadians have restrictions on food products too. Kind of silly to suggest anything like that....ergo...it appears to be your whole point. I guess we dcan agree on this....we both have laws. Woot Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 3, 2013 Report Posted July 3, 2013 I guess we dcan agree on this....we both have laws. Woot Yes. Which was the point I was making. In response to this comment: "Big gov't telling Americans what they can eat." Big gov't tells Canadians what they can eat, too. Woot. Quote
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