punked Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 Still profiting from the Iraq War. Oh...THE SHAME !!!!! How do Canadians stand for this outrage ? I don't even know what you are talking about any more. Quote
Shady Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 I meant hypocrisy auto correct brother. Fair enough. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 ...... Hey, does that cover it? Again, we were not willing! Don't try and shift your blame/shame our way! No, you forgot overflight and refueling stops at Canadian bases. Shameful ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 I don't even know what you are talking about any more. OMG....how do Canadians take such blood money, born from the deaths of many thousands of Iraqis ? It's not like when Canada bombed them in 1991.....this is different and far more shameful. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 My theocracy? You mean the one Jimmy Carter helped put into place. Part of his Habitat For Inhumanity project while in office. have you provided your citation yet... the one showing Carter caused the 'Shah to fall... and not get back up again'? Quote
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 Ummm...the Government of Canada website says we're Iraq's 8th largest investor...they could be fibbing, I suppose. as I said, as I'm aware, as I said, that's post-2010... didn't say anything about current status. The nattering was about the early so-called "Martin begging" days! Try to keep up. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) PM Martin pleads Canada's case for Iraq with President Bush, who tolerates his continued begging: Canada raises Iraq contracts with Bush By Los Angeles Times OTTAWA — New Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin said yesterdayhe had tried to persuade President Bush to let Canadian firms bid forlucrative Iraq reconstruction contracts but had not managed to get afirm commitment. Martin, who took over last week from Jean Chrétien, said he wouldraise the question again with Bush when they hold a bilateral meetingnext month at a summit in Monterrey, Mexico. Canada is unhappy the White House has limited bidding on thecontracts to companies from nations that contributed troops to the waron Iraq. Chrétien, whose relations with Bush were never better thancool, angered the U.S. leader by refusing to take part. Martin spoke to Bush for a quarter of an hour yesterday, pointing outthat Canada had contributed $230 million to the rebuilding of Iraq andhad also stationed 2,000 troops in Afghanistan as part of a NATO-ledforce. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20031216&slug=contracts16 Edited March 17, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 have you provided your citation yet... the one showing Carter caused the 'Shah to fall... and not get back up again'? He didn't cause the Shah to fall. The CIA was actually surprised at his quick abdication. It was more a case of not giving a rat's rear as to what happened to a valuable strategic ally on the Soviet Union's southern flank. Carter was relived when the whole hostage crisis was over....paid the ransom money to the kidnappers...said 'Whew...right on!'...his words. Off to build homes for the poor.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 Which they then went on to sell all of as of last year. http://www.energy-pedia.com/news/iraq/new-153194 By low, sell high, never set foot in the country. Seems like this is the game plan for the small time Canadian companies who are putting out bids no one else is sitting on land then unloading them as other big players expand into the ground they now have the contract to develop. yup... the other company, Ironstone, ... a so-called junior that, as you found, didn't actually get the contract BC_2004 so hyped. Does he have... more? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) I like this headline..... Bush Lets Canadian Appeasers Profit From Iraq War NewsMax.com WiresTuesday, Jan. 13, 2004 MONTERREY, Mexico – President Bush, seeking to mendrelations with America's northern neighbor, said Tuesday thatCanada would be eligible for a second round of U.S.-financedreconstruction contracts in Iraq. In a breakfast meeting with new Canadian Prime Minister PaulMartin, Bush said he had told Martin of the shift in policy. Martin"understands the stakes" in rebuilding a free and peaceful Iraq,Bush said. He offered no details of what the contracts would beworth. Martin is eager to patch up the cross-border relationship afterhis predecessor, Jean Chretien, abstained from the Iraq war,angering Bush. Martin said he was pleased by the new U.S. stance toward Canada,and the lucrative contracts that could come Canada's way. U.S.policy in the first round was to shut out Canada and othercountries that opposed the war. "It does show that working together, we can arrive at areasonable solution," Martin told reporters after the breakfast. The two leaders also pledged cooperation on another issue thathas irritated U.S.-Canada relations, the discovery of mad cowdisease in America from a cow that apparently came from Canada. "This is an issue that's going to require close coordinationbetween our two countries," Bush said. "The best way to make surewe're able to satisfy consumers ... is for there to be[coordination] on regulation, on information and on the science." Bush said he was confident in the safety of the beef supply, andwas still himself eating beef. Edited March 17, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 No, you forgot overflight and refueling stops at Canadian bases. Shameful ! oh right... shouldn't forget Gander, ever! apparently, you have nothing to say, nothing whatsoever as to the casualties (dead and wounded) your country incurred... and inflicted on innocent civilians. Or the cost to your economy. Or the ongoing costs to your economy. Or the destabilization caused. Of course you don't! You throw out these curt nothingness statements about "regime change"... "Hussein, we got em". Sad, very sad. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 oh right... shouldn't forget Gander, ever! Is it not on Canadian soil ? apparently, you have nothing to say, nothing whatsoever as to the casualties (dead and wounded) your country incurred... and inflicted on innocent civilians. Or the cost to your economy. Or the ongoing costs to your economy. Or the destabilization caused. Of course you don't! You throw out these curt nothingness statements about "regime change"... "Hussein, we got em". Sad, very sad. No more than any other wars past and present.....God Save the Queen ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 PM Martin pleads Canada's case for Iraq with President Bush, who tolerates his continued begging:begging? Troll on! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 begging? Troll on! Yes...begging...on his knees I heard....embarrassing ! Oh please...please...please George.....please give us Canadian appeasers a piece of the post war spoils. Bush, "OK....we can work together". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 yup... the other company, Ironstone, ... a so-called junior that, as you found, didn't actually get the contract BC_2004 so hyped. Does he have... more? That would be Ironhorse Oil & Gas...out of Calgary.....not "Ironstone". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 That would be Ironhorse Oil & Gas...out of Calgary.....not "Ironstone". IOG though doesn't report on any contracts with Iraq though right? Quote
waldo Posted March 17, 2013 Author Report Posted March 17, 2013 That would be Ironhorse Oil & Gas...out of Calgary.....not "Ironstone". really? You can respond to spelling but not to the following: ya, ya... that's the only reference I found across the early licensing rounds. And yet, the "junior player", Ironhorse of Calgary, doesn't include anything about it on it's website, inclusive of archived press releases dating back to 2005. Seems like they awarded the contract to a Canadian company then went back on it. I can't find where the status of it is now. http://globeinvestor.com/servlet/ArticleNews/story/ROC/20041225/2004-12-25T193421Z_01_N25599859_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ENERGY-IRAQ-HIMRIN-COL Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 IOG though doesn't report on any contracts with Iraq though right? Many contracts...do you think Canada just gave Iraq $230 million for nothing ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Sleipnir Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 The realities are that Iraq was invaded and occupied by Presidents Bush and Obama. Built a big ass U.S. embassy too. You gotta problem with that ? building a 'big ass' U.S embassy = 'big ass' target for terrorist. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Let's not forget this fun nugget: WESTON: Canada offered to aid Iraq invasion: WikiLeaks The same day Canada publicly refused to join the 2003 U.S.-ledinvasion of Iraq, a high-ranking Canadian official was secretlypromising the Americans clandestine military support for the fiercelycontroversial operation. The revelation that Canadian forces may have secretly participated inthe invasion of Iraq is contained in a classified U.S. diplomatic memoobtained exclusively by CBC News from the whistleblower websiteWikiLeaks. On March 17, 2003, two days before U.S. warplanes launched theirattack on Baghdad, prime minister Jean Chrétien told the House ofCommons that Canadian forces would not be joining what theadministration of then U.S. president George W. Bush dubbed the"coalition of the willing." Chrétien's apparent refusal to back the Bush administration'sinvasion, purportedly launched to seize weapons of mass destructionpossessed by Iraqi ruler Saddam Hussein (which were never found), washugely popular in Canada, widely hailed as nothing less than a definingmoment of national sovereignty. But even as Chrétien told the Commons that Canada wouldn'tparticipate in Operation Iraqi Freedom, Canadian diplomats were secretlytelling their U.S. counterparts something entirely different. The classified U.S. document obtained from WikiLeaks shows seniorCanadian officials met that same day with high-ranking American andBritish diplomats at Foreign Affairs headquarters in Ottawa. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/05/15/weston-iraq-invasion-wikileaks.html Edited March 17, 2013 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 building a 'big ass' U.S embassy = 'big ass' target for terrorist. Bring it..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 building a 'big ass' U.S embassy = 'big ass' target for terrorist. It's a fortress. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 It's a fortress. Oh yeah...it really is...totally outrageous. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Oh yeah...it really is...totally outrageous. Those Google Map links I posted show it in full...massive....like 20 blocks by 10 blocks. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=22478&p=888478 Edited March 17, 2013 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 17, 2013 Report Posted March 17, 2013 Got it...sorry...I was distracted by Lara Logan in a tight purple dress on 60 Minutes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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